Desecration of the Dead: A criminal offense in our law

[Mzee Mwanakijiji]

May I propose that if the reports that we have been receiving in the past few hours on the forceful removal and displacement of dead bodies from a mortuary in Tarie by the police are indeed true, then the line between decence and chaos has been crossed and the wall of division between law enforcement and anarchy has been breached. My friends, the prudence that exist and is presumed to exist in civility has once again been shattered. Bob Marley in his "Redemption Song" cried echoing what some of ua are crying today "How long shall they kill our prophets while we stand this side and look?"

There is no excuse whatsoever barring a dully acquired court order for the police - who stand accused-to be involved in affairs of a mourning Tanzanian family.

So, whatever happened in Tarime overnight calls for condemnation in strongest terms possible and demand immediate accountability of the officers involved. This includes the immediate resignations of the following:

The Minister for Internal Affairs
The Inspector General of Police
The Zonal Commander for Tarime
The Chief of operation who supervised these illegal and immoral actions.

No more should Tanzanian blood be shed arbitrarily at the end of the State.

 

[Dr Lizzy]

I wish.....

 

[Kobello]

Totally agree with you!....It's so sickening,and why aren't we getting the images? or even an article with quotes from the families,neighbours,the cops......can somebody please take a photo or video with your phone and send it to a friend or any human rights office nearby for uploading?We don't really need the media,we can post pictures and videos easily,it's very very easy!
We get pics and vids from syria,yemen,libya...uploaded from phones,can't we do it?.....can we get the news from our point of view?Anybody?

 

[Mzee Mwanakijiji]

Kobello kuna ntu katoa jibu kidogo kakini nina uhakika picha zitakuja tu.

 

[VIKWAZO]

So, whatever happened in Tarime overnight calls for condemnation in strongest terms possible and demand immediate accountability of the officers involved. This includes the immediate resignations of the following:

The Minister for Internal Affairs
The Inspector General of Police
The Zonal Commander for Tarime
The Chief of operation who supervised these illegal and immoral actions.

No more should Tanzanian blood be shed arbitrarily at the end of the State.

Nina amini tukio la jana ni tukio kubwa sana yaweza kuwa Afrika nzima
sijwai kusikia serikali kwa kutumia dola kutoa maiti na kuziterekeza barabara mahali popote,
lakini pia ili ni tukio linaloitaji ujasiri mamlaka kubwa na kinga zidi ya kutowajibishwa aftermaths

kutoka na maelezo hayo hapo juu sidhani kama kuna mtu yeyote chini ya saidi mwema yaani mkuu
wa polisi anayeweza kutoa haya maagizo, huu ni uvunjaji wa sheria husio kifani kwa maana hiyo
nina hakika raisi wa nchi kwa namna moja mvutano pale tarime ilikuwa tishio kubwa kwa kiti chake magogoni na mbunge uhusika wa ccm hapo tarime
kwa maana hiyo si wazi walijua wanajua wanafanya kufulu maana hii ni zaidi ya uvunjaji sheria na utashi ule tanzania iliyokuwa ikijivunia yaani utu
mimi natupa shutuma magogoni, Raisi Kikwete hana huruma, hata hakika kimya tunajua wazi kapisa yeye ni raisi wa nchi na ana mamlaka yote kuzuia mauaji kitendo chake kutoamfuakua MWEMA toka jeshi la polisi lilipoanza mauaji ovyo ovyo hapa nchini ni uhusika tosha kabisa.

kama huu ushauri kauchukua kwa mseven huko uganda alikokwenda kumpongeza, basi wajiandae na ICC.

 

[Game Theory]

 

[Dingswayo]

https://www.jamiiforums.com/jukwaa-...usiku-mochwari-na-kukamatwa-lissu-tarime.html

 

[NIKOSTRATOS]

May I propose that if the reports that we have been receiving in the past few hours on the forceful removal and displacement of dead bodies from a mortuary in Tarie by the police are indeed true, then the line between decence and chaos has been crossed and the wall of division between law enforcement and anarchy has been breached. My friends, the prudence that exist and is presumed to exist in civility has once again been shattered. Bob Marley in his "Redemption Song" cried echoing what some of ua are crying today "How long shall they kill our prophets while we stand this side and look?"

There is no excuse whatsoever barring a dully acquired court order for the police - who stand accused-to be involved in affairs of a mourning Tanzanian family.

So, whatever happened in Tarime overnight calls for condemnation in strongest terms possible and demand immediate accountability of the officers involved. This includes the immediate resignations of the following:

The Minister for Internal Affairs
The Inspector General of Police
The Zonal Commander for Tarime
The Chief of operation who supervised these illegal and immoral actions.

No more should Tanzanian blood be shed arbitrarily at the end of the State.

Maandamano yaanza immediately kushikiza uliowataja wajiuzulu mara moja....Pia ni wakati wa kulitupia tatizo hilo macho kwa karibu zaidi.Tupate documentaries,tumudhihirishie ulimwengu unyama na unyanyasaji,kiini ni gold na ufisadi,yani rasilimali za watanzania.This is a serious issue,we need to go beyond just condemnation and resignations.We need revolution,otherwise ni kuweka viraka ukidhani ni kaptura mpya.

 

[maulaga]

Resign?!!! I am afraid that is a new terminology to the powermongers in this country of ours!

 

[Speaker]

I wish.....

me too,....!!!
where will they get their meals?

 

[Mag3]

These are but the actions of a corrupt regime gone bankrupt morally, socially and politically. It is the signs of an illegitimate government that clings to power through trickery and misinformation. It is a result of a system that has become a breeding ground for incompetent, irresponsible and corrupt leaders who survive by intimidation, oppression and fear.

To them democracy becomes enemy number one in their quest for survival at all cost and fear becomes their weapon in their zeal to cover up for their failures. They will stop at nothing even it means killing a few innocent wananchi as long as it serves their purpose. It is a regime that does not follow the rule of law nor have any respect for human rights.

Decency ? Since when did illegitimacy share the same platform with decency. Kikwete lost all decency since that day in 2005 he was elected into office through fraud and theft. All that he has done since is to ensure the truth stays buried even if it means sacrificing his colleagues and a few innocent lives like 28 wananchi since 2005 in Nyamongo alone.

Trying to equate Kikwete and decency is like wishing for day and night at the same time, this will never happen.

 

[Mzee Mwanakijiji]

Is it possible that more Tanzanians have died at the hand of the State up to this time than during Mkapa's twIo terms.?

 

[Froida]

i dont think they will dare to resign,among other things they think their above the law of the land its painiful when you think about all this,

 

[Speaker]

hakyanani,...
hawa watu wana dharau kweli,afu wao wakifanyiwa
dharau kidogo tu wanakua mbogo

 

[Shinto]

Nadhani malaria imewapanda vichwani

 

[Mbutunanga]

hakyanani,...
hawa watu wana dharau kweli,afu wao wakifanyiwa
dharau kidogo tu wanakua mbogo

Waalaaniwe waliofanya udhalimu huo, na miili yao itupwe barabarani siku ya kiama chao.

 

[Gad ONEYA]

These are but the actions of a corrupt regime gone bankrupt morally, socially and politically. It is the signs of an illegitimate government that clings to power through trickery and misinformation. It is a result of a system that has become a breeding ground for incompetent, irresponsible and corrupt leaders who survive by intimidation, oppression and fear.

To them democracy becomes enemy number one in their quest for survival at all cost and fear becomes their weapon in their zeal to cover up for their failures. They will stop at nothing even it means killing a few innocent wananchi as long as it serves their purpose. It is a regime that does not follow the rule of law nor have any respect for human rights.

Decency ? Since when did illegitimacy share the same platform with decency. Kikwete lost all decency since that day in 2005 he was elected into office through fraud and theft. All that he has done since is to ensure the truth stays buried even if it means sacrificing his colleagues and a few innocent lives like 28 wananchi since 2005 in Nyamongo alone.

Trying to equate Kikwete and decency is like wishing for day and night at the same time, this will never happen.

I am completely and totally saddened to see that the police force have joined in the band wagon of politics of betrayal! How on earth can a body of the dead man/woman be thrown over the road/ bush in middle of the night be left for the hyenas to pierce on? Is this how we respect the dead bodies of our fellow human beings? Utterly blunt and thick thinking can result to this. Do this same force expects good reputation as credible defender of the law abiding citizens?

 

[The Prophet]

Kitendo cha kuamuru Askari wako wakaibe maiti na kuzitupa bara barani hili sikusamehe.
Ingekuwa wale wenzetu ndugu zetu waislamu ungefanya hayo kupitia polisi...Baba Raisi heshimu imani za wenzako.

Mungu alijua wanatenda dhambi. Mungu ameishusha maiti. Dunia ione maovu ya watawala.

Na hakika ninamuapia Kikwete. Hatapona katika hili.

Kikwete utajuta kuutaka Urais wa nchi hii.

Utajuta kama rafiki yako Ditopile

 

[Ehud]

Kikwete akifa kama nipo hai maiti yake nitaitemea mate na kama jeneza lake litapelekwa kwao kwa gari nitalipiga manati jeneza lake. Hii ni yamini yangu dhidi ya kikwete kwa kile alichowafanyia ndugu zangu wa mara

 

[Nyakageni]

It doesnt click in my mind! It might be the consequences of directives from Dodomar seminar.