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Dar expels 12 Kenyan traders over already waived border fee

Discussion in 'Kenyan News and Politics' started by MkenyaMzalendo, Apr 5, 2012.

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    MkenyaMzalendo Senior Member

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    Dar expels 12 Kenyan traders over border fee


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    Dr Richard Sezibera. Photo/FILE

    By BENJAMIN MUINDI bmuindi@ke.nationmedia.com
    Posted Wednesday, April 4 2012 at 22:30



    Twelve Kenyan traders have been expelled from Tanzania for failing to pay a $200 (Sh16,600) fee already been waived by the East African Community.The seven women and five men, who buy fruits from Iringa and sell them in Kenya, said they were arrested after their passports were confiscated by the police.

    They said the officers gave them an ultimatum to leave Dar es Salaam by Thursday or risk being locked up for being in the country illegally.

    "The Immigration Department didn't tell us the reason for the expulsion. It only said we should leave today," Ms Beatrice Wambui said on Wednesday by phone from Tanzania.

    Kenya High Commission in Tanzania said it was a case of lack of information on the part of the police as the $200 fee had been waived.

    "Information about the fee waiver had not reached the officials," said Mr Boniface Makau, who is in charge of trade at the mission.

    Ms Wambui said Tanzanian authorities had made it difficult for them to trade.

    "We are harassed every now and then by the officers yet they do not state clearly how we have broken the law," she lamented.
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    ShareThe expulsion comes at a time when a new report launched on Wednesday on the state of the East African Community said Tanzania was the biggest impediment to regional integration.

    According to the report launched in Nairobi by EAC secretary general Richard Sezibera, Tanzania has the highest form of bureaucratic and legal hurdles.

    Bribery

    "In 55 per cent of the cases where truck drivers were stopped by traffic officers a non-official payment was made," the report noted.

    Following such barriers, Uganda, Rwanda, Burundi, Tanzania and Kenya, in that order, have been most affected, although the EAC states are currently establishing computerised systems.

    "Regional integration is the expression of good governance," Dr Sezibera said on Wednesday at the Hilton Hotel, Nairobi.


     
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    Mh.....
     
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    Poor farmers? backwark country! With comments like these are you surprised why Tanzanians hate this monster EAC with a passion? Maybe you will be better off trading with 'developed nations', Tanzania is too backward for you. Wanakusumbua your Highness!
     
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    slow down, you will burst a vein in expressing yourself. Heres the catch, have you sneaked on a report on the most unhappiest of countries? Hiyo kitu ni disturbing aisee...chill, its easter. Swali kwa amani.
     
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    Hoja yako ilikuwa kwenye topic gani na mimi nimejibu topic gani?
     
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    Informations have reached them but you know what!? Tanzania bado ni nchi ya kitu kidogo wajameni.In order to give them kitu kidogo you have to be harrased!
    And there you are Dr Sezibera Tanzania is not Rwanda, bureaucratical means are there to stay as long as it fevers those in power!
     
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    lol, was only sayn calm down. Your reply projected alot of anger, 'damaging anger' and i was concerned you might get a ruptured vein. Anyway, I blame the tanzanian authorities for expelling the Kenyans. They scrapped the levies, why reimpose them on non suspecting individuals thru ill mechanisms?
     
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    There is more to this story because the fee that the Kenya ambassador has mentioned was levied on trucks and not human being. We should reserve our comments until we hear the other side's story...
     
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    Speak for yourself! Mkulima wa matunda Iringa knows better, matunda hayaozi shambani, soko Nairobi!
     
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    When I used the words “poor farmers” I did not mean they are literally poor. I insinuated that the farmers in Iringa are being deprived of their expanding tentacles in terms of market; ever heard of metaphors? and the “backwark” is your own making I don’t know what it means
     
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    FJM JF-Expert Member

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    Sorry kwenye blue: I meant 'backward' which is what you used in your other post.

    I know the word 'poor' can be used in different ways but I read your post within the context of this debate. And really when add the word 'backward' unatoka na maana moja - umasikini.
     
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    OK we appreciate expressed opinions, but what have you just helped to put across. Just because Mr. Sezibera is Rwandese and not Tanzanian makes bureaucracy applaud-able and workable in Tanzania. If he was Tanzanian, you would have given him a thumbs up!! you are being accused of fake patriotism.
     
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    I think there is a very poor flow of information within the Tanzanian government or its officials simply don't read!!
     
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    Lets not jump into conclusions, below is what Ms. Wambui said:
    Can someone pls tell us where the hell did the journo got his heading from??:A S-omg:
     
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    Wakenya waliofukuzwa nchini hawakuwa wachuuzi wa matunda.... bali walikuwa wahamiaji haramu..... wee mchuuzi gani wananchi wanasema wamewaona tangu Januari mwaka huu na wengine Desemba mwaka jana.... ninyi wana jamii mtakubaliana nami na wanainchi wa Iringi pia..... huyu mwanamke Wambui tangu Januari yupo Iringa (sijui hana mume na watoto!!!!) huo uchuuzi gani..... wakashtukiwa na kufukuzwa...... na tumeapa hakuna cha eac wala komoni protokoli kwa wazamiaji wa reja reja kama Beatrice...ni kufukuza tu..
     
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    Huyu nadhani hajatoka mashinani katika mazingira yake. Kwanza lugha unashindwa kuwasilisha ujumbe ya kueleweka. Tena, nataka angalau utembee au uchukue wakati wa kutembea kenya ujue kenya kulivyo. Huu ndio upumbavu hata angalau walioliwa na funza miguuni wanaweza wasilisha hoja. Walalahoi kama wewe ni mkuza machungwa mumewauuzia serikali sokoni kwa bei mbaya halfau unalalama. Kule ukambani kuna machungwa ya kuuzwa sijui ya tanzania ina ubora gani?? Tanzania kuna middlemen wanaowanyonya damu kama mbu, huku ukilia Kenya......mara wazungu. Kwa hivyo mzungu ndio tatizo la kila jambo.

    kinyume na kulia kwako, kenya ndio the main exporter wa bidhaa nchini TZ na wanunuzi wakuu. Kwa hivyo sijui tukifunga mipaka mutakuwa hali ipi. Ukiangalia SADC malawi ni wakuza mboga tu na mahindi, zimbabwe nao wana nunua mkate mmoja $4m ( takriban dola millioni nne. Sasa Utatorokea wapi??!!
     
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    Wakenya wa humu jamvini wanashangaza sana...
    Yaani mnalalamika kwa kila kitu, mnataka Tanzania iwape bure...
    Halafu badala yakuomba vizuri mnawatukana waTanzania, kumbukeni hapa jamvini kuna Mawaziri, Wabunge na na watu wengi tu wenye ushawishi kwenye mambo ya kila siku serikalini.(i.e., hili si jamvi la wahuni kama kule Mashada!)
    Kwa mtindo huu mtaendelea kulialia kwa maumivu kila siku na hakuna kitu kitakachobadilika. Mpaka mtakapo acha tabia mbaya na kujifunza kuwa wastaarabu:A S-omg:
     
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    Endelea kudhani, mimi sitembei kama nguchiro bila sababu yoyote ya maana wala kurukaruka kama ngedere kama wewe. Mashinani ndiyo nini hiyo? Mimi ningekuwa mkuza machungwa unafikiri ningekuja kwa wakenya ambayo wanashindwa na Mungikli au alishahab? Endelea kujidanganya na mshukuruni marehemu Sokoine bila yeye huo mpaka mnaovuka msingekanyaga, mmekwisha sahau lakini sisi tunafahamu unafiki wenu ambao hamuwezi Wacha. Then unajifanya kujua mambo nani kakwambia Zimbabwe wanatumia pesa zao, wanatumia US dollars hivi sasa takriban miaka minne sasa unaishi dunia ipi? Then Wakuza ndio kitu gani?
     
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    Wacha!!! wacha kunijaribu, ikiwa huelewi mashinani, sina la ziada na muda wa kujadilana nawe. Tanzania ni nchi kubwa kwa kikundi ndogo kama nyinyi kujaribu kuleta siasa za kambi ya chifu serikalini. Kuna sera ambazo ni zakufatiliwa hata iwapo mutafikiria kuufunga mpaka wenu na sio vitu kufanywa kiholela au kichwa kichwa. Tutaendelea kushukuru mwenda zake sokoine, na nini muendelee kushukuru GOK na serikali ya kaunti hapo namanga kwa kuwaruhusu muingie mpakani huku na kufanya vitu vyenu sawa na wakenya wengine. Kimsingi kenya itaendelea kuleta bidhaa za kilimo na bisahara itaendelea kama kawaida. Endelea pia ujifunze Kiswahili cha kutumika katika mijadala kama hii na siyo kiswahili ya kule mashambani/mashinani. Hivi unavyoendelea kulalama, si kuna baadhi ya wakenya wanaendeleza biashara tanzania?? Ama unadhani sauti ya chura itazuia ngombe kunywa maji mtoni?!!!
     
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    I hear you brother truly respect and sober debate is necessary in such distinguished forum as you put it….but the kind of rebuke, insults and vulgar language used by you guys is very absurd. I am shocked to learn there are people of substance in here….some words used by the likes of Wacha, eliakeem et al….. if this is the one for signatories, I wonder how is your Mashada…..

     
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