Copenhagen 2009: The Climate change meeting

[ngoshwe]

Associated Press
PETER DEJONG
New climate draft has gaping holes at UN talks




A new draft agreement Friday at the Copenhagen climate talks pulled together the main elements of a global pact but left gaping holes on financing and cutting greenhouse gas emissions for world leaders to fill in next week.
The six-page draft document distilled a much-disputed 180-page negotiating text, laying out the obligations of industrial and developing countries in curbing the growth of greenhouse gases responsible for global warming.
News of the document came as the European Union leaders agreed in Brussels to commit euro2.4 billion ($3.6 billion) a year until 2012 to a short-term fund to help poor countries cope with climate change. The EU also conditionally lifted its commitment to reduce carbon emissions by 30 percent below 1990 levels over the next decade, depending on better commitments by the United States and Canada.
In the past the EU pledged a 20 percent cut with an option increase that to 30 percent as part of a global deal.



The draft agreement is less specific than other proposals and attempts to bridge the divide between rich and poor countries. It leaves much to be decided by more 110 heads of state, including President Barack Obama, Chinese Prime Minister Wen Jiabao and Russian President Dmitry Medvedev and most of Europe's top leadership, who are due to arrive in the Danish capital in one week for a landmark summit.
"This text will be the focus of the negotiations from now on," said Jake Schmidt, an analyst for the Natural Resources Defense Council.

The paper, drawn up by Michael Zammit Cutajar, the Maltese chairman of the conference's largest committee, says global emissions of greenhouse gases should peak "as soon as possible." But controlling carbon emissions should be subordinate to the effort to wipe out poverty and develop the economies of the world's poorest nations, it said.
It called for new funding over the next three years by wealthy countries to help poor countries adapt to changing climate conditions, but mentioned no figures. The U.N.'s top climate official, Yvo de Boer, has suggested a total $30 billion.
And it made no specific proposals on long-term help for developing countries. "That's the gaping hole," said Antonio Hill, of Oxfam International.
On Saturday, the conference president, Connie Hedegaard, was to prepare a report on the status of the talks.
Outside the negotiating complex in Copenhagen, police detained 40 people in the first street protests linked to the conference. About 200 people rallied in the downtown area where corporate CEOs were meeting to discuss the role of businesses in the fight against global warming _ one of many side events to the U.N. conference that started Monday.
The protesters broke into small groups, banging drums and shouting "mind your business, this is our climate!" There were no reports of violence.
Police spokesman Henrik Moeller Nielsen said the detentions were preventative, to avoid disorder.
In Brussels, President Nicolas Sarkozy said the EU commitment of euro2.4 billion ($3.6 billion) a year until 2012 "puts Europe in a leadership role in Copenhagen."
The figure was reached after two days of tough talks during which eastern EU countries _ still lagging in their own development and further battered by the global economic downturn, resisted pressure to chip in. In the end, all 27 EU nations agreed to donate, but the bulk of the funds were coming from Britain, France and Germany.
"There are few moments in history when nations are summoned to common decisions that will reshape the lives of men and women potentially for generations to come," said British Prime Minister Gordon Brown. "This world deal in Copenhagen must be ambitious, global, comprehensive legally binding within six months."
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source: AP

 

[Keynez]

Naona African delegates wamewalk out. Sioni uwezekano wa kufikia makubaliano mwisho wa hii conference, forget it.

 

[SYLLOGIST!]

Naona African delegates wamewalk out. Sioni uwezekano wa kufikia makubaliano mwisho wa hii conference, forget it.

Do not give up!
It is a fact Africa has nothing to do with the global warming!
Waziri Mkuu wa Ethiopia Mh. Zenawi ambaye ndiye msemaji mkuu wa bara la Africa katika mkutano huo aliwaeleza bayana wakuu wa magharibi kuhusu msimamo wa Afrika.

Nimependa msimamo wa Afrika ambao wamekubaliana kushikamana pamoja kama bara badala ya nchi moja moja kuwa na makubaliano na nchi zinazo chafua mazingira.

Kuna matumaini kuwa kutakuwa na makubaliano...

 

[Pape]

It is a fact Africa has nothing to do with the global warming!

teh teh teh, hapo sijakusoma...
kwani africa hakuna viwanda? hatuchomi misitu? hatuchimbui/kulima ardhi? hatuchimbi dhahabu/almasi etc? hatuna magari (vyombo vya usafiri vinavyotumia hydrocarbons based fuel), kwani sisi hatuna mitambo ya kuzalishia umeme m.f IPTL wanatumia source gani kuendeshea mitambo yao? viwanda vya kutengeneza cement je? nadhani hiyo statement yako hapo juu haiko 'kisomi' zaidi...

 

[SYLLOGIST!]

teh teh teh, hapo sijakusoma...
kwani africa hakuna viwanda? hatuchomi misitu? hatuchimbui/kulima ardhi? hatuchimbi dhahabu/almasi etc? hatuna magari (vyombo vya usafiri vinavyotumia hydrocarbons based fuel), kwani sisi hatuna mitambo ya kuzalishia umeme m.f IPTL wanatumia source gani kuendeshea mitambo yao? viwanda vya kutengeneza cement je? nadhani hiyo statement yako hapo juu haiko 'kisomi' zaidi...

Hata ikiwa tutafanya hayo yote, bado hatuwezi kufikia walivyofikia wenzetu huko.

Kisomo gani hiko 'inglish'?

 

[Pape]

Hata ikiwa tutafanya hayo yote, bado hatuwezi kufikia walivyofikia wenzetu huko.

Kisomo gani hiko 'inglish'?

nilikuwa sijakuelewa,
je, kuna uwezekano kwamba wao wachafue na madhara tupate sisi? kama hivyo inawezekana je africa has nothing to do with the GW? and what is to be done to save our so called 'dark' continent?

 

[Tiger]

Jamani eeh!

Hivi mnaichukuliaje hii?


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5576670191369613647#

 

[Pape]

Jamani eeh!

Hivi mnaichukuliaje hii?


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5576670191369613647#

asante Tiger, ngoja nii-download halafu jioni niiangalie kwa umakini kisha nitakuja na majibu kama nitayapata.

asante kwa hii link...

 

[Tiger]

asante Tiger, ngoja nii-download halafu jioni niiangalie kwa umakini kisha nitakuja na majibu kama nitayapata.

asante kwa hii link...

Poa mkuu ila baada ya kuiangalia documentary yake kwa kweli sijaendelea kuumiza kichwa changu kufikiria wanasiasa wa ulaya wanasemaje(naona kama wanatetea maslahi yao tu) na viongozi wetu naona wanakimbiza upepo tu.
Labda kama kutakuwa na discovery nyingine tofauti na hiyo ya sasa naweza kurudi tena na kuanza kufikiria upya.

Nliiona hiyo documentary baada ya kumaliza chuo, kwa kweli nilishukuru sana kuisoma baada ya kumaliza chuo maana ningepata taabu sana kuandika kwenye makaratasi kitu ambacho ningekuwa nahisi ni uongo pia nadhani ningewasumbua sana maticha wangu.

 

[Pape]

Poa mkuu ila baada ya kuiangalia documentary yake kwa kweli sijaendelea kuumiza kichwa changu kufikiria wanasiasa wa ulaya wanasemaje(naona kama wanatetea maslahi yao tu) na viongozi wetu naona wanakimbiza upepo tu.
Labda kama kutakuwa na discovery nyingine tofauti na hiyo ya sasa naweza kurudi tena na kuanza kufikiria upya.

Nliiona hiyo documentary baada ya kumaliza chuo, kwa kweli nilishukuru sana kuisoma baada ya kumaliza chuo maana ningepata taabu sana kuandika kwenye makaratasi kitu ambacho ningekuwa nahisi ni uongo pia nadhani ningewasumbua sana maticha wangu.

Ngoja tupambane tutafika tu...mpaka kieleweke....

 

[Zungu Pule]

Mkuu nina maanisha kwamba "theory kwamba carbodioxed (co2) ndio inayosababisha joto duniani ina mushkeli ni feki si kweli!!

Kuna haja ya kuangalia kwa undani (hidden agenda) ya wanaharakati wanataka watu waishi maisha ya kijima huu ni upuuzi..eti matumizi ya magari, umeme, gas yapunguzwe....

hawa wanataka less developing countries wasiwe na viwanda milele..ili tuendelee kuwa wategemezi kutoka kwao..

by they way kuna wanasayansi wengi wenye heshima duniani wanaamini kwamba siyo co2 inayosababisha joto duniani??

Hii si theory tena. It has been proved and scientific evidence is overwhelming! Remember, this is science. So, haitoshi kusema GHGs hazisababishi mabadiliko ya tabia nchi. Even your grandma can throw that one. What will make a difference is evidence, scientific evidence to be specific. Without evidence, nobody is going to listen to you! That said, what is the premise of your argument and evidence(s) to support it?

Na unapozungumzia less developing countries (if this is what you meant), I believe you are not equating Tanzania=China! In the climate negotiations, Tanzania and many other poor countries are in the same group with emerging economies like China, India, and Brazil, which in my opinion is a grave mistake. And to prove how smart Chinese are, msemaji wa kundi ni Bw. Lumumba from the poor Southern Sudan. Now, I am not sure if Southern Sudan (or Sudan) and China share the common interest when it comes to cutting emissions. They are just very far apart (economically and GHGs emissions) like the earth is from heaven!

 

[Zungu Pule]

Ukishaanza kutumia hayo utaongeza Co2, wanaharakati watakuja juu...nakushauri uangalie "climate change swindles" documentary uone motives yao hao jamaa usikurupuke..

Je motive ya aliyetengeneza documentary ni nini? Is he or she a honest broker? and why?

 

[Mbonea]

AP – President Barack Obama makes a statement at the United Nations Climate Change Conference at the Bella …


By ARTHUR MAX, Associated Press Writer Arthur Max, Associated Press Writer – 5 mins ago
COPENHAGEN – Two years of laborious negotiations on a climate agreement ended Friday with a political deal brokered by President Barack Obama with China and other emerging powers but denounced by poor countries because it was nonbinding and set no overall target for curbing greenhouse gas emissions.
German Chancellor Angela Merkel, a leading proponent of strong action to confront global warming, gave the Copenhagen Accord grudging acceptance but said she had "mixed feelings" about the outcome and called it only a first step.
Obama's day of frenetic diplomacy produced a three-page document promising $30 billion in emergency aid in the next three years and a goal of channeling $100 billion a year by 2020 to developing countries with no guarantees.
The five-nation agreement includes a method for verifying reductions of heat-trapping gases — a key demand by Washington, because China has resisted international efforts to monitor its actions.
The agreement, which also includes India, South Africa and Brazil, requires industrial countries to list their individual targets and developing countries to list the actions they will take to cut global warming pollution by specific amounts. Obama called that an "unprecedented breakthrough."
"We have come a long way, but we have much further to go," he said.
If the countries had waited to reach a full, binding agreement, "then we wouldn't make any progress," Obama said. In that case, he said, "there might be such frustration and cynicism that rather than taking one step forward, we ended up taking two steps back."
A final plenary session began debating the agreement early Saturday morning with the aim of reaching enough consensus that the president of the conference, Danish Prime Minister Lars Loekke Rasmussen, could declare the document approved. But that outcome was thrown into question as a string of developing nations began to protest what they called an inadequate and nonbinding text.
The delegate from the Pacific island nation of Tuvalu — which is threatened by rising seas — told the meeting that his country's future was not for sale. Cuba, Bolivia and Venezuela complained that they had no input into the drafting of the document.
Obama met twice with Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao — once privately and once with other leaders present — in hopes of sweeping aside some of the disputes that had blocked progress. The U.S. and China are the world's two largest carbon polluters.
A key moment that led to the deal took place when Obama walked uninvited into a meeting that was already under way with China hosting Brazil, India and South Africa.
Later, a senior Obama administration official said that "the only surprise we had, in all honesty, was ... that in that room wasn't just the Chinese having a meeting ... but in fact all four countries that we had been trying to arrange meetings with were indeed all in the same room. ... The president's viewpoint is, I wanted to see them all and now is our chance."
The official spoke on condition of anonymity in order to be able to talk about the sensitive diplomatic events of the day.
Brazil climate ambassador Sergio Barbosa Serra said Wen was hosting the meeting when it was joined by Obama, and "several important decisions were taken, not a few of them due to Brazilian mediation."
Bangladeshi delegate Quamrul Islam Chowdhari said Obama had won over many of the leaders by personally phoning them in the weeks before the summit and "making them feel important."
The emerging outcome was a disappointment to those who had anticipated the Copenhagen Accord would be turned into a legally binding treaty. Instead, it envisions another year of negotiations and leaves myriad details yet to be decided.
Merkel said "the path toward a new agreement is still a very long one." European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso said the deal was "clearly below" the European Union's goal.

"I will not hide my disappointment," he said.
But British Prime Minister Gordon Brown said the agreement had almost universal support. "Let's remember, a year ago nobody thought this sort of agreement was possible," he said.
Lumumba Di-Aping, the Sudanese ambassador who chairs the bloc of developing countries, called it "extremely flawed."
"A gross violation has been committed today against the poor, against the tradition of transparency and participation of equal footing for all parties of the convention and against common sense," he said, complaining that Obama negotiated the pact in one-on-one meetings and a forum of 25 nations.
The document said carbon emissions should be reduced enough to keep the increase in average temperature below 2 degrees Celsius (3.6 degrees Fahrenheit), which is stronger than in any previous declaration accepted by the rich countries.
However, environmental groups called it a meaningless aspiration.
"The deal is a triumph of spin over substance. It recognizes the need to keep warming below 2 degrees but does not commit to do so. It kicks back the big decisions on emissions cuts and fudges the issue of climate cash," said Jeremy Hobbs, executive director of Oxfam International, an organization that works with developing countries.
He said the agreement "barely papers over the huge differences between countries which have plagued these talks for two years."
Outside the conference hall, more than 100 protesters chanted, "You're destroying our future." Some carried signs of Obama with the words "climate shame" pasted on his face.
Obama had planned to spend only about nine hours in Copenhagen as the summit wrapped up. But, as an agreement appeared within reach, he extended his stay by more than six hours to attend a series of meetings aimed at brokering a deal. He and Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton held talks with European leaders, including Merkel, Brown and French President Nicolas Sarkozy.
He said there was a "fundamental deadlock in perspectives" between big, industrially developed countries like the United States and poorer, though sometimes large, developing nations. Still he said this week's efforts "will help us begin to meet our responsibilities to leave our children and grandchildren a cleaner planet."
The deal as described by Obama reflects some progress helping poor nations cope with climate change and getting China to disclose its actions to address the warming problem.
He said the world will have to take more aggressive steps to combat global warming. The first step, he said, is to build trust between developed and developing countries.
"It's not what we expected," Brazil's Serra said. "It may still be a way of salvaging something and paving the way for another a meeting or series of meetings next year."
New Zealand's climate change ambassador Adrian Macey called it "a modest deal."
"I see Kyoto as a first step," Macey said. "This another first step, a global first step."
More than anything, Macey found the U.N. process on climate change "appalling."
John Sauven, executive director of Greenpeace UK, decried that "there are no targets for carbon cuts and no agreement on a legally binding treaty."
The two-week, 193-nation conference has been plagued by growing distrust between rich and poor nations. Each side blamed the other for failing to take ambitious actions to tackle climate change. At one point, African delegates staged a partial boycott of the talks.
"We are ready to get this done today, but there has to be movement on all sides to recognize that it is better for us to act rather than talk," Obama had said in an address to the conference, insisting on a transparent way to monitor each nation's pledges to cut emissions.
As negotiations evolved, new drafts of the document emerged with key clauses being inserted, deleted and reintroduced with new wording.
In a diatribe against the U.S., Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez criticized the conference as undemocratic.
"There is a document that has been moving around, all sorts of documents that have been moving around, there is a real lack of transparency here," he said earlier Friday. "We reject any document that Obama will slip under the door."
Swedish Environment Minister Andreas Carlgren, negotiating on behalf of the 27-nation EU, blamed the impasse on the Chinese for "blocking again and again," and on the U.S. for coming too late with an improved offer, a long-range climate aid program announced Thursday by Clinton. "President Obama was not very proactive. He didn't offer anything more," said delegate Thomas Negints of Papua New Guinea. He said his country had hoped for "more on emissions, put more money on the table, take the lead."

Source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/climate

 

[Pape]

I am not sure if Southern Sudan (or Sudan) and China share the common interest when it comes to cutting emissions. They are just very far apart (economically and GHGs emissions) like the earth is from heaven!

habari ndiyo hiyo...

 

[Pape]

Jamani eeh!

Hivi mnaichukuliaje hii?


http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...0191369613647#

Nliiona hiyo documentary baada ya kumaliza chuo, kwa kweli nilishukuru sana kuisoma baada ya kumaliza chuo maana ningepata taabu sana kuandika kwenye makaratasi kitu ambacho ningekuwa nahisi ni uongo pia nadhani ningewasumbua sana maticha wangu.

Hii kitu ni balaaa...heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee....ndio maana waswahili wanasema 'tembea uone'. Mimi ni nafuatiliaga sana haya mambo ya GW lakini details nilizopata katika hii clip sijawahi hata siku moja kusikia professor yeyote chuoni akiizungumzia!! Sasa nimeiangalia na kuandika maswali ya kuwauliza hao wataalamu wanaosapoti GW....guess what? Kumbe nao wanafuata mkumbo! Hawana lolote! Hii kitu inawezekana kweli ni propaganda ya siasa za ulaya...Hii kitu sasa imeniweka njia panda kwani prof mmoja ameniambia nichague nifuate upande upi kwani kila upande una evidence za kutosha! Nitakachofanya sasa ni kuchimba zaidi ili kujua kwa undani msimamo wa pande zote mbili kisha huko baadae nitajua niungane na upande gani!

 

[Deshbhakt]

In short, a conference of alot of blah. blahs by the rich, who continue to destory of what is left,for us and the other underdeveloped countries due to their individual greed!

By forking out funds, does not mean that 'things'will change as in a human perspective,for what is happening is the overal destruction of our enviroment by them!

 

[Msanii]

Tususie kununua bidhaa za western countries mpaka pua zao zije kwenye senses za global threat waliyoisababisha.

Ngoja niwaulize watanzania wenzangu. MBona mnapotaka kujenga nyumba kwenye plot mpya mnasawazisha ardhi yaani mnaondoa mpaka miti mliyoikuta?? dawa ya kumaliza au kupunguza global warming ni kuanza campaign kwenye family level ili kuset mind za waathirika kuanza kuchukua hatua za makusidi kujiepusha na janga kwa faida ya watoto wa vitukuu wetu. Na kwa taarifa yako ni kwamba joto lililopo dar es salaam sasa ni bab kubwa maana halijapata kuwepo kabla, linasumbua usiku utadhani unapigwa na miale ya jua.
Wazungu wameshaiharibu ulaya na wanatuonea wivu thus wanadhani tukiharibikiwa sisi wao watakua salama.

 

[Sipo]

Tususie kununua bidhaa za western countries mpaka pua zao zije kwenye senses za global threat waliyoisababisha.

Nitakuwa wa kwanza kuunga mkono huu mgomo pasipo kulambalamba midomo wala kumumunya maneno. Let us start, tumechoka bana

 

[Msanii]

I meana mpaka mitumba tunasusa tunarudi kwenye khaki za urafiki.

Inauma kweli viongozi wetu tunaodhani wana msimamo wanaishia kuburuzwa na MAJAMBAZI wa magharibi

 

[Sipo]

I meana mpaka mitumba tunasusa tunarudi kwenye khaki za urafiki

Kabisa ila tukiendelea hivi ndio kifo chetu kimewadia