Congo-Kinshasa: South African, Tanzanian Forces Open Fire on Rebels M23

[JokaKuu]

MUKAMASIMBA, murutongore,

..lakini Rwanda si walishiriki kwenye vikao vilivyoamua UN ipeleke intervention brigade DRC?

..binafsi sina kumbukumbu kama Rwanda walipinga uamuzi huo wa UN.

..zaidi, intervention brigade inahusisha majeshi toka Malawi, South Africa, na Tanzania.

..sasa kwanini nyinyi mnawaandama Tz na SA peke yao, Malawi hamuwataji kabisa??

..M23 hata hawajulikani wanachopigania ni nini haswa. kuna makamanda wa M23 wanatafutwa na ICC. Why would u support such a group??

cc Kishimbe wa Kishimbe

 

[Kishimbe wa Kishimbe]

Congo jengeni nchi yenu, piganieni maendeleo yenu, jengeni miudo mbinu, na good governance hii biashara ya kudrag nchi zote kuhusuka na Congo itachelewesha maendeleo yenu. Hakuna vita I siyo na maslahi Kwa wapiganaji. Damu ya Msouth kufia Congo mtalipa mikataba ya maisha.

Whom do you want to fool? All those people have been dragged there by blood thirsty GENOCIDERS, M23 and their Rwandan patrons, who, besides involving Kongo in a vicious circle of unrest and mass murder, are busily involved in robbing the country of its mineral wealth and threatening to transform the evergreen country into a 'DESERT!'

THE CONGO BASIN IS A GLOBAL HERITAGE AND IT IS THE DUTY OF ALL HUMANS TO SAVE THIS ONE OF A FEW REMAINING RAIN FORESTS AND, SURELY, NOW OR NEVER IS THE TIME TO CUT M23 AND PATRONS TO SIZE!

REMEMBER 'THERE IS NO PLANET B' SO FAR, IF EVER!

 

[JokaKuu]

Whom do you want to fool? All those people have been dragged there by blood thirsty GENOCIDERS, M23 and their Rwandan patrons, who besides involving Kongo in a vicious circle of unrest and mass murder, are busily involved in robbing the country of its mineral wealth and threatening to transform the evergreen country into a 'DESERT!'

THE CONGO BASIN IS A GLOBAL HERITAGE AND IT IS THE DUTY OF ALL HUMANS TO SAVE THIS ONE OF A FEW REMAINING RAIN FORESTS AND, SURELY, NOW OR NEVER IS THE TIME TO CUT M23 AND PATRONS TO SIZE!

REMEMBER 'THERE IS NO PLANET B' SO FAR, IF EVER!

Kishimbe wa Kishimbe,

..Rwanda na M23 nao ni genociders.

..Interahamwe waliua milioni 1.

..Rwanda na M23 wameua milioni 3.

..wote ni wabaya.

 

[Kishimbe wa Kishimbe]

Diana Sempebwa Katabarwa

The UN ''peacekeeping mission'' is a negative force in Kivu not keeping peace but escalating war and becoming entangled with the most negative of all negative forces in the Great Lakes region; the FDLR. The UN Brigade fighting on the same side with FDLR is both a tragic and absurd development but not surprising. The French who are in charge of peacekeeping opertions at the UN are using their position to influence decisions taken by the UN in Kivu. The French have unfinished business in the Great Lakes particularly with Kagame and Rwanda. The RPF kicked them out of Rwanda in 1994. They are now back in Kivu through the ''peacekeeping'' arm of the UN to continue lending support to their interahamwe friends and to settle scores with Kagame. The French are well aware that an organised and efficient group like M23 taking full control of the East would spell the end of French influence in the Great Lakes region. Therefore it follows that out of over more than 20 armed groups in East DRC, M23 is enemy number one that must be eliminated. Forget about ADF that sent over 60,000 Congolese fleeing into Uganda recently after capturing Congolese towns. ADF is not the concern of the UN Brigade. All focus is on M23. Western NGOs, ''human rights'' groups in Kivu and sections of Western media representing Western commercial interests in Kivu are well aware that an M23 controlled East DRC would spell doom for foreign commercial interests that have struck lucrative mineral resource deals with Kabila, which deals are of no benefit at all to the Congolese people of the East. So it follows that there is a furious media smear campaign directed against M23 orchestrated by these groups. The South African ruling elites have deployed South African troops in the UN Brigade to protect their personal commercial investments in Kivu. Tanzania has deployed troops in the UN Brigade because of Kikwete's support for Kayumba Nyamwasa and group. No single foreign group is in Kivu for the purpose of protecting civilians or restoring peace. Each group is present in Kivu with a hidden agenda.

Now YOU ARE TALKING! BUT SOON WE EXPECT YOU TO SING, BUT STILL IT WON'T HELP FOR YOU HAVE ALREADY OUT-PROPAGANDED YOURSELVES! WHO HAS A HIDDEN AGENDA GREATER AND MORE SINISTER THAN THE M23 GENOCIDERS AND THEIR RWANDESE PATRONS!
IT'S TIME TO FACE THE MUSIC BROTHERS! PAYDAY!:flame:

 

[Tozeshai Kiagha]

The United Nations Intervention Brigade in the Democratic Republic of Congo, a new-style U.N. peacekeeping force with a uniquely robust mandate, has finally started fighting, the DRC government said Friday. The force of more than 3,000 troops, mainly from Tanzania and South Africa, has been in eastern Congo for nearly three months and on Thursday opened fire on the M23 rebels.
This was the moment many people in eastern Congo had been waiting for,
DRC government spokesman Lambert Mende said at a press conference. "I think we can simply welcome the fact that the brigade has gone into action, since yesterday. It's a good thing, better late than never."
There were about 16,000 U.N. peacekeepers in Congo before the brigade deployed, but they had taken little part in the government's attempt to neutralize the M23 rebels. Doubts had been rising whether the new-style brigade would be any different.
In a second day of fighting Thursday between the army and the M23, some 17 kilometers north of Goma, however, the brigade's artillery unit from Tanzania fired its field artillery at the rebels' positions, according to international observers and sources within the Congolese army.
It is unclear who started the latest clashes. An army officer told VOA that government troops had advanced four kilometers since Wednesday, but other sources believe they have moved forward less than two kilometers.
Either way, the city of Goma is still within range of M23 rockets. The M23 captured the strategic objective in November, but then evacuated under international pressure.
Mende said 11 rockets fell on Goma and its outskirts Thursday, killing at least one person and wounding 12. He said experts reported that the missiles were fired from Rwanda. Rwanda has consistently denied supporting M23 and has said that missiles were fired from Congo into Rwandan territory in the past two days.
Experts, including a Congolese army officer, said the rockets that hit Goma more likely had been fired from the M23's positions.
Mende was asked by a journalist whether DRC should cut off diplomatic relations with Rwanda over the allegations that it has been supporting M23, and that rockets have been fired from its territory at Congo, and his answer was effectively, no.
He said Congo's president, Joseph Kabila, answered that question when he said he would follow the advice of regional leaders by not declaring war on Rwanda or cutting ties with that country.
Mende noted that the president had withdrawn his ambassador from Kigali, though, leaving only lower ranking diplomats at the DRC embassy there.
Congolese army sources say that only the Tanzanian troops in the Intervention Brigade have fired at the M23 so far, and they did so from some ways behind the government forces' front lines.
A U.N. source said the South African government is not reluctant to combat the M23 rebels, but its forces were not needed in the latest engagement, which required only the use of the Tanzanian field artillery unit.
The intervention brigade commander used to be Tanzania's highest ranking artillery commander.

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Well done MUNISCO,it is a good start.....we support you for the sake of PEACE to our neighbor and ours.Rebels M23 and Rwanda gov.support to rebels they should think twice before it is too late.

 

[JokaKuu]

MUKAMASIMBA,

..Kagame anakosea sana kuingia ktk mzozo na vikosi vya UN.

..Rwanda ni nchi masikini, sasa mkikosana na UN mtakuwa wageni wa nani?

..tofauti na 1999/2000, this time SADC wanazungumza kwa sauti moja linapokuja suala la mgogoro wa DRC.

..nadhani Kagame akae pembeni, kwasababu akiendelea namna hii atakuja kuwa kama Charles Taylor.

NB:

..nimesikia Zuma amekwenda Angola. Je, Angola nao wako karibu kupeleka majeshi DRC?

cc Jasusi, Nguruvi3, Koba, Ruzibiza

 

[August]

Humu kuna watu ushabiki tu, mbona Bosco ntaganda yuko icc.

ulisoma hii au ulijipitisha tu?

Will Rwanda extradite M23 officials?

M23 political leader Jean-Marie Runiga (center) and general Bauduin Ngaruye (right), here in May with Refugee Affairs Minister Séraphine Mukantabana touring the Ngoma internment camp where the M23 refugees are held, are among those wanted by the DRC. (file photo)​

The Minister of Justice andAttorney General Johnston Busingye says that the ex-tradition of four M23 officials to Congo will be done legally and not politically after confirming that Rwanda had responded to the DRC government’s request for extradition of the four officials.
The four wanted officials are former M23 chairman M23 Jean-Marie Runiga and military com-manders Baudouin Ngaruye, Eric Badege and Innocent Zimurinda.
Busingye told The Rwanda Fo-cus that the Rwandan embassy in the DRC received the papers to-wards the end of July and imme-diately sent them to Kigali, where they were studied and a response was sent last week.
“Extradition is a legal issue and this matter will be handled in a le-gal process. We have responded to the DRC government asking them to furnish us with more de-tails,” Busingye said.
The details that Rwanda is seeking from DRC are the nature of the charges against the four of-ficials and evidence against them. DRC’s Information minister Lam-bert Mende told media recently that his government enjoys good relations with Rwanda in spite of the recent diplomatic challeng-es between the two neighboring countries.
Mende added that he was con-fident of Rwanda’s cooperation in extraditing the four officials to Congo where they are charged with war crimes, crimes against humanity including murder, im-prisonment, torture, rape, sexual slavery, ethnic persecution and several other charges.
Foreign Affairs Minister Louis Mushikiwabo echoed the Justice Minister’s comments saying that extradition is not just putting peo-ple on a plane to the countries that requested for them. “The process has to be done in a legal process considering what our laws say and also what international laws stipulate. Both countries’ Justice Ministers are in touch discussing the issue,” she said.
The Case of Laurent Nkunda
The extradition of the M23 of-ficials brings to mind the case of former Congolese rebel leader Laurent Nkunda who fled to Rwanda. Mushikiwabo said that Rwanda was at one time in ad-vanced talks with Congo on the issue and some suggestions were that Nkunda could be transferred to another country.
“The recent instability in Goma put a hold on the case,” Mushiki-wabo said, adding that one of the impediments to Laurent Nkun-da’s extradition was the death penalty in Congo, which accord-ing to Rwandan law prevents ex-tradition of people to such coun-tries.
The M23 is mainly made up of the Banyamulenge ethnic group which is fighting for equal rights in Congo. The rebel group was founded in 2012 and operates in eastern DR Congo but split in February this year after internal wrangles.
One faction sided with mili-tary leader Sultani Makenga and the other with Runiga, the move-ment’s political leader. In March, Runiga and around 700 fighters crossed the border into Rwanda, which has been accused by Kin-shasa and the UN of founding and arming the M23.
The DRC Government was re-cently rebuked by the UN which threatened to cut off all support to the DRC army after photos of the Congolese army were published showing them desecrating corps-es of alleged M23 fighters.
Meanwhile the Rwandan em-bassy in Congo says the DRC gov-ernment has yet to approve their request to visit and talk with over 60 Rwandans who were arrested in Goma and taken to jails in Kin-shasa.
Rwanda’s ambassador to the DRC, Amadin Rungira, said that the Rwandans were jailed in mili-tary prisons contrary to laws and were deniedvisitation rights but the DRC Information minister Lambert Mende told media that the reasons why the Rwandans were put in military prisons is be-cause they are being investigated for war crimes.

 

[Ogah]

Huu mchezo ni kama ule wa kekundu keusi....kitendo cha Tanzania kumsaidia kuchagua kumsaidia Joseph Kabila, ina maanisha kuwa imechagua kumsaidia Kagame na Rwanda yake...
Na kuwaacha waCongo upande wa pili wakiwa helpless.

...hakuna kisichojulikana.......waendelee kujidanganya......

 

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so what?

you will know it soon!

 

[pixel]

Let me sleep maana cijui
mnunuzi wa hizo almasi ni nani? na yupo upande gani wa hii issue na hilo
soko liwapi.

Jambo la msingi ni amani,hatuwezi kuzungumzia mnunuzi kwa sasa katikati ya ubakaji,wizi na uvamizi.

 

[pixel]

sijaelewa vema....hivi
mtoa mada kasema mapigano ni kati ya vikosi "mashujaa" na M23 au na
Kagame?

Ruzibiza wewe ni mnyarwanda,watanzania ni watu makini sana.huwezi kutenganisha m23 na kagame,hii safari inaishia kigali.subiri uone.

 

[taamu]

Watutsi sio wayahudi wala hawafanani nao hata kwa tabia. Wayahudi waliuziwa jangwa wakabadilisha then wapalestina wameshtuka wanataka kurejeshewa ardhi waliyouza kama mnavyofanya leo kubinafusisha kila kitu siku moja mtadai mnakaliwa na walowezi.

hilo la uyahudi ni uongo wa wazi wale wapalestina waliombwa na jamii ya kimataifa kuwahifadhi wayahudi.kwa hila wayahudi wakaipora ardhi.kinachofuata ni injili tu.

 

[Kidzude]

Jambo la msingi ni amani,hatuwezi kuzungumzia mnunuzi kwa sasa katikati ya ubakaji,wizi na uvamizi.

ningepata nafasi ningwataja wanunuzi wa hizo mali amani ingekuja.

 

[0766958894]

Ther is no success, without sacrifice, hata Yesu Christo alikufa kw kujitoa sadaka ili kuwakomboa wana wa kiyahudi kutoka kweny dhambi. wapo watakaokufa ili aman ya Drc goma ipatikane, UN military brigedi foward 4reva,

 

[Koba]

JF acheni kuonyesha ignorance yenu na kupoteza muda kumshambulia Kagame/Rwanda kwa hii Congo crisis,Rwanda or their military has nothing to do na hii vita na hawapo kule,wanaopigana kule ni Congolese wenyewe,ila kama mnataka kuendelea kujifurahisha kumtukana kagame huku Congolese wakiendelea kuuana basi endeleni kumlaumu kagame for your entertainment....narudia tena Kagame or Rwanda hawapo Congo wala hawana hata mwanajeshi mmoja kule mnayoongea yote ni useless kama mkiendelea kufanya hii crisis about Rwanda huku Congolese wakiendelea kuchinjana

 

[Koba]

DRC must be free! MUNISCO has my moral support on this.

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I hope and wish Congo wapate amani,lakini kuendela kufanya hii crisis is about Rwanda that is TRAGEDY na haitasaidia kitu,M23 ni Congolese rebels na ni part of Congolese people na sio Rwanda kama wengi manvyotaka kuamini na wana pesa kuliko hata Kigali,kumbuka wana control big part ya Eastern Congo ambazo ni very rich...anyway I hope amani itapatikana maana wote ni Africans na nchi ni kubwa kila mtu anaweza kuishi kwa amani na nafasi yake.

 

[Ruzibiza]

Ruzibiza wewe ni mnyarwanda,watanzania ni watu makini sana.huwezi kutenganisha m23 na kagame,hii safari inaishia kigali.subiri uone.

Nani kakuuliza hayo yote...wewe siyo mtu makini kama ungekuwa makini ungejibu nilichouliza...umakini ni sifa ya mtu individually na si nchi kama unavowaza...ungekuwa makini usingeniita mnyarwanda wakati huna uhakika.....jifunze kujadili siyo kukurupuka kaka....

 

[Ruzibiza]

murutongore, Don't forget that all this is the result of you Rwandans committing atrocities in Kongo and now is the time for you to 'face the music'!
War has its costs and what you mention, if at all true, is called 'FIRE BAPTISM', so my brother just wait for your turn and, I tell you, 'YOU'VE GOT IT COMING!'
Anyway, YOU CAN LAUGH NOW WHEN YOU STILL CAN!

mnadhani kwa kukaa janvini mkaandika utumbo woooote hakuna impact?angalieni sana...machafuko yaliyo mengi ya enzi hizi yanaanzishwa na kuwa catalysed na wanamitandao kama nyie.....hamjui mnachoshangilia vita si lelemama the aftermath mtaniambia kama yalomkuta mugesera hayatawakuta sema technologia ni ya chini ila kuweni makini sana na mnachokiandika.....

 

[Kishimbe wa Kishimbe]

mnadhani kwa kukaa janvini mkaandika utumbo woooote hakuna impact?angalieni sana...machafuko yaliyo mengi ya enzi hizi yanaanzishwa na kuwa catalysed na wanamitandao kama nyie.....hamjui mnachoshangilia vita si lelemama the aftermath mtaniambia kama yalomkuta mugesera hayatawakuta sema technologia ni ya chini ila kuweni makini sana na mnachokiandika.....

If you are on 'ba'genocide' side it's up to you!

 

[Stoudemire]

Mbona Wanyarwanda wamevamia hapa?