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CIA's Records of Tanzania Govt

Discussion in 'Jamii Intelligence' started by ngoshwe, Jan 22, 2010.

  1. ngoshwe

    ngoshwe JF-Expert Member

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    HII NI KWA MUJIBU WA TOVUTI YA CIA KUHUSU TZ:

    https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/world-leaders-1/world-leaders-t/tanzania.html


     
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    nguvumali JF Bronze Member

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    Kalas ?
     
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    Malinga Member

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    are they updating their website regularly
     
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    This' an alarming info. They will fetch it soon. Wenzetu ni watendaji!
     
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    Chiefs of State and Cabinet Members of Foreign Governments
    Date of Information: 2/14/2008​

    hao jamaa wanajua kila kitu
     
  7. TIMING

    TIMING JF-Expert Member

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    Mkuu, you would rather trust your grand ma' than CIA... it is flawed, it is inefficient, yet is the most vocal intelligence unit on earth... try Latin America, New Zealand, Israel, Scandinavia countries and Russia etc ndio ujue nani yuko wapi

    They are very busy mapping the security system to really paint a true picture
     
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    ngoshwe JF-Expert Member

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    Mkulu, this is what these guys (C.I.A) proud themselves!
    " The online Factbook is updated bi-weekly"



    HAPA WATAKUWA WAMEWADANGANYA WENGI!.



    (https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/)
     
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    Geza Ulole JF-Expert Member

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    that's why they put last updated dates! if you have a country that keep switching ministers everyday instead of helding them accountable why should they bother?
     
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    TIMING JF-Expert Member

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    which is a shame to them!!! yaani CIA wameupdate their database mara ya mwisho mwaka 2008??? si watakuwa bado na list ya mutalab akiwa nursery?

    shame, shame, shame... they are just paid big bucks for notng
     
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    HUKU MIMI sio mtaalamu sana!...
    sijapitia mafunzo ya jeshi
     
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    Lole Gwakisa JF-Expert Member

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    The CIA is a massive beureucratic outfit ambayo si rahisi kunote na ku update info yao regularly.
    Na hilo ndo tatizo la taasisi yoyote kubwa ya kiserikali.
    Hebu cheki Obama alivyosikitika wakati wa failure ya link kati ya intelligence na operations, alipokamatwa yule kijana Mnigeria na bomu.
    Na hii ni licha ya CIA kupewa habari zote na mzazi wa gaidi huyo kijana.
    Tujifunze na makosa ya wakubwa hawa.
     
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    Chakaza JF-Expert Member

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    Kama ulivyo wewe Invisible. Tunakukubali!
     
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    Jasusi JF-Expert Member

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    Ndio maana waliamini kuwa Saddam alikuwa na WMD.
     
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    Kwa welewa wangu mdogo ni kuwa intelligence means actionable information i.e information that can be used as a basis of making decision. The more important the decision the more significant the intelligence becomes. Sasa je hiyo information jina la waziri wa wizara fulani wa TZ kutokuwa updated unafikiri ni muhimu kiasi gani kwa US in decision making!! Sioni kama kwa US hiyo ni muhimu sana.
     
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    Mkuu, sitaki kuamini kama US waliamini hicho ulichokisema na ambacho ndicho tunachoambiwa public. Ni vyema tukajua kwamba companies like individuals lie. but when companies lie it means mass manipulation. kwa hiyo hiyo habari ya Saadam facts zinaonesha kuwa ni propagada na mass manipulation. Na tukumbuke pia kuwa issue ya Saadam ilianza enzi ya Clinton.
    Pili, ukweli ni kuwa US inaamini ktk political realism kuwa maslahi ya US kwanza hata kufanya hivyo kunaathiri mataifa mengine na ndicho tunachokiona ktk utawala wa US wa leo hata uliopita. Utaona kuwa maraisi kutoka vyama tofauti yanaendeleza kazi aliyoiacha rais aliyetangulia hata kama anatoka chama kingine. Ni TZ tu tunaona hata marais toka chama kimoja kila mtu anaenda kivyakvyake tu.
     
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    Umepotoka kwa hili, US ina maslahi makubwa sana kwenye utendaji wa Serikali zetu, na pengine wanapenda kujua hata "back ground" ya kila Kiongozi wa nagzi ya Juu Serikalini zaidi kwa mawaziri wanataka hata kujua mambo binafsi ikiwemo jina na asili ya Mkeo. US ni mmoja wa wahisani wakubwa kwa Serikali yetu.

    Kwa mfano, ikiwa wanajua nchi kama Tz inategemea kilimo kwenye Uchumi wake, na Waziri wa Kilimo Chakula na Ushirika wa Sasa wa Tz amekuwa akienda USA mara kibao, sasa inakuwaje ashindwe kujulikana?...

    Ni kweli tukubaliane nawe kuwa Inteligensia ya Marekani haipaswi kujua nani ni Waziri wa sasa wa Miundo Mbinu wa TZ na hasa baada ya Andrew Chenge kuacha ngazi baada ya kupigiwa kelele sana ndani na nje ya nchi kwa ufisadi ambao mashirika ya kijasusi ya kimataifa (SFO) yalihusika kuushughulikia, lakini bado taarifa za Kijasusi za Marekani ziendelee kumtaja Chenge kuwa ni Waziri wa Miundo Mbinu wa Tz?..

    Huoni kuwa kwa mtu alie nje ya Tanzania na ambae si Mtanzania akipata taarifa kama hii anaweza kuitumia ilivyo kwa kuwa chombo kama CIA ni Idara nyeti na inayoaminika duniani. Hivyo,inaonekana haiweza kupotosha?.

    Kama taarifa kama hii haikupaswa kufanyiwa "up date" kwa wakati, nini maana yake kwenye web library ya CIA zaidi ya kupotosha?.

    AU tuseme shirika letu la ujasusi (Usalama wa Taifa) ndo wameshindwa ku-update hizo taarifa kama wao wana wajibu wa kuwasilisha taarifa hizo kwa CIA?.
     
  18. Kichuguu

    Kichuguu Platinum Member

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    Watunza website walio makini huwa wanonyesha ni lini walipofanya last update kwenye websites zao. CIA wamefanya hivyo kwa kusema kuwa
    hiyo inaonyesha kuwa mabadiliko yaliyotokea baada ya hapo bado hayajaingizwa kwenye website. kama unayahitaji inabidi uwasiliane nao moja kwa moja, na wameonyesha namna ya kluwacontact kwa e-mail.


    Na sisi tukisoma website, ni lazima tuwe makini kuangalia kama website hiyo imeshafanyiwa update yoyote kulingana na mabadiliko ya dunia. Siyo vizuri kusema kuwa website hiyo inadanganya ilihali website inayonyesha kabisa kuwa information zile ni za zamani na wakati wanaziandika zilikuwa sahihi.
     
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    do you know that the cia world factbook is also very outdated???

    never rely on the cia world factbook. i learned the hard way.
     
  20. Brutus

    Brutus Senior Member

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    Hard copy ya 2009 iko very updated!
     
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