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China yashika nafasi ya pili kiuchumi baada ya kuipiku japani

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    KIDUNDULIMA JF-Expert Member

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    jamani wachina wanapaa. wameipiku japani na kushika nafasi ya pili kwa uchumi Duniani. Uchumi wao unakadiriwa kuwa na thamani ya trilion 5.85$ wakati wa japani ni trilion 5.4$. Wajapani wamekaridiria kuwa huenda China ikaipik?u marekani na kushika nafasi ya kwanza ndani ya miaka 15 ijayo iwapo ukuaji wa uchumi wao utakwenda kwa double digits.

    Source. BBC today.

    Tanzania tutaondoka lini kwenye nchi fukara za kutupwa duniani
     
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    Asia ni noma... sio China tu angalia na India pia!! Angalia na projection ya 2020 ya Grobal Market Research!!!
     

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    Timiza wajibu wako kuanzia sasa...
     
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    Wachina wanachokifanya ni kucheza na mahitaji ya masoko bila kubagua nchi za dunia ya tatu! Wewe jiulize pikipiki ya Mjapani bila 4.5mill hujaichukua lakini ya Mchina 1.7mill unabeba na kijapani haifai kwa matumizi ya biashara. Sasa angalia mzunguko wake wa mauzo ni mkubwa na hivyo kumake super normal profit. Siyo item moja tu bali ni utitiri wa bidhaa kutoka China zinalika duniani kote! Angalia hata mabasi siku hizi kama YOUTONG ni ya ukweli yana spidi ulaji wa mafuta mzuri hivyo kukimbiliwa na wafanyabiashara wengi wa kiobongo!
    Ukija kwenye ma tender ndiyo usiseme kabisa, China haina muda itaifunika Marekani kiuchumi.
     
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    ni kweli china wanatisha sana na marekani inamuogopa sana mchina sana kwa sasa
     
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    Mimi natimiza ila nguvu zangu zote zinaisha Kwa JK na baraza lake chovu
     
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    China inakua haraka, lakini kwa piopulation ya 1bn plus nadhani per capita income yao bado ni ndogo sana ukilinganisha na Marekani na Japan, kumbuka za US na Jp ni zaidi ya 300m na 120m repectively. Japan is better off in all the three. Na hawa wachovu wa kichina wanatafuta nini huku mitaani kwetu. Hata India bado kabisa, 420m wanaishi chini ya dola 1 kwa siku huko India, mwisho wa siku it's social welfare/safety nets that counts. Mali ya Tata Corporation haina uhusiano na mhindi anayeishi kwenye mabox huko New Delhi...wamefulia.
     
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    CCM ikitoka madarakani!
     
  9. VoiceOfReason

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    Mkuu advantage moja ambayo anayo China na Asia ambayo America au Europe hawawezi kumfikia ni Labor Cost
    Hivi unajua kumuajiri mtu mmoja Europe au America unaweza ukawaajiri watu kama kumi China..., Kwahiyo hiyo inasaidia sana kufanya bidhaa zao ziwe Cheap, hata America and Europe inakuwa cheaper kupeleka bidhaa zao zikatengenezewe China.

    Pia wachina wajanja kwa muda mrefu wamekuwa wanacheza na Currency yao yaani always inakuwa cheaper.., kwahiyo ni rahisi kununua China (because pesa yao sio expensive sana) kuliko kitu ukinunua nchi kama US au UK

    Na huu ndio mwanzo ni kwamba in the long run Asia will take over its just a matter of time..., The same ingefanyika Africa kama tungekuwa na Akili za kutafuta kuliko kuoneana wivu na kujigawa kwa matabaka ambayo hayana msingi
     
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    kaka

    true to some extent but not necessarily the case always, labour cost is measured by the uotput the worker produces.

    mfano mtu mmoja kwenye nchi ambazo zinatoa cheap labour anaweza kutumia masaa kadhaa kutengeneza bidhaa chache, wakati huo huo mtu mmoja in the west can produce twice the same products in half an hour due to modern machines.

    kwa hiyo the 'output' in the west is much more efficient due to the machine and it compensates the higher wages.
     
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    Mkuu take a look at UK for example...., all the manufacturing industries have failed and have moved to other countries.., Nike Adidas (they are american products) lakini zinatengenezwa India Taiwan etc. Computers (Dell Compaq etc) most the take them to be assembled in China..., Mkuu Machines or no Machines its cheaper to produce in Asia than Europe or America..., they have technical know how, and it is easy to set up a company in Asia

    Hata hizi mashine zinahitaji people to operate kama ukiangalia assembling line ya magari au Computers Robots hazifanyi kazi nyingi ni Binadamu ndio wanafix matairi viti vioo, betri n.k. wakati gari linapita kwenye mkanda...... Kwahiyo Mkuu ni bora nipate watu 20 kutoka China wanaofanya kazi kwa Jumla ya 5USD kwa saa kuliko kumlipa mtu mmoja Marekani ambaye kwanza anakuja na package ya kutaka benefits na migomo baridi ya kila siku.....
     
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    Ni kweli GDP ya china sasa iko juu kuliko japan ($5.8 vs 5.5 trillion). Lakini per capita income ni tofauti sana ($4,500 vs >40,000). Hivyo utaona kipato cha wachina bado kipo chini sana. Infact duniani wako nafasi ya 95 kwa kipato cha mtu mmoja mmoja.
    Ili wajisikie maendeleo ya kiuchumi yanayozungumzwa inabidi watu wawezeshwe wawe na purchasing power; mfano kuongeza mishahara ili iendane na hali halisi ya economic volume.
    China wamejizatiti katika manufacturing lakini hawana consumption (due to low purchasing power). Hivyo zaidi ya two thirds bado ni maskini.
     
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    Naomba kujua China inaifukuzia Marekani kiuchumi kwa umbali gani maana inaonekana kama obama anahofu.
     
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    Kaka, true dat

    hila hiyo sio sababu pekee, na viwanda in the west havijashindwa kabisa. Hila tamaa imeachiwa mno ndio imewaponza wachache waweze ku-exploit foreign workforce.

    Moja ya sababu nyingine kuhamisha viwanda ni kupunguza immigration ya kuja kufanya kazi za cheap labour in the west: Kazi ambazo wazawa hawazitaki.

    Pili greedyness ya kutotaka ku-spread the wealth by paying people low wages, since people have other options such as benefits to pay for their roofs and food. What is the point of poor people wasting their 'forty hours' a week only to end up with 20 bucks better off, after the necessary expendetures.

    Ndio maana sasa the new rationing mechanism ina aim kufanya watu wachukue low paid jobs by subsidising their housing bills, so that people are left better of with work rather than benefits.

    Na hizi austerity measures zimeacha wengi bila ya ajira, plan ni kwamba wanataka kurudisha manufacturing back in the west and the only possible way is to make people accept those low paying jobs in the first place. Ndio wanakuja na sera mpya za kuweka unafuu kwa watu wenye kipato cha chini by subsidizing life cost na kupunguza watu makazi kwenye malipo ya serikali: along the way they are hoping some of those people would turn into entreprenuers and create their own wealth and employment.

    Walijisahau wakawa wana concentrate much on finance and services to propel their economy especially in England rather than manufacturing and it his biting them now, lakini si kusema they failed as industrialists.
     
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    Japan confirms China surpassed its economy in 2010

    TOKYO - Japan confirmed Monday that China's economy surpassed its own as the world's second largest in 2010 and said a late-year downturn was Japan's first quarterly contraction in more than a year.
    Japan's real GDP expanded 3.9 percent in the calendar year in the first annual growth in three years, but it wasn't enough to hold off a surging China. Japan's nominal GDP last year came to $5.4742 trillion, less than China's total of $5.8786 trillion, the Cabinet Office said.
    Gross domestic product shrunk at an annualized rate of 1.1 percent in the October-December quarter, a sharp reversal from a revised 3.3 percent expansion in the third quarter, the government said.
    A slowdown in exports and weaker consumer demand at home led to the unsurprising downturn, which is expected to be temporary. The result was better than Kyodo news agency's average market forecast of an annualized 2.2 percent decline.
    China was acknowledged last year as having grown to the world's second-largest economy, but the Japanese data confirming it were not available until Monday. The switch underscores the nations' stark contrasts: China is growing rapidly and driving the global economy, while Japan is struggling with persistent deflation, an aging population and ballooning public debt.
    Prime Minister Naoto Kan has pledged to revive the economy and make major reforms in the country's tax and social welfare systems.
    His approval ratings are eroding quickly, however, as voters question his government's ability to lead the country through its pressing problems.
    The fourth-quarter figure translates to a 0.3 percent fall from the previous three-month period, according to the Cabinet Office's preliminary data. Consumer spending, which accounts for some 60 percent of GDP, fell 0.7 percent. Auto sales slumped during the quarter after government subsidies for "green" vehicles expired in September.
    Exports fell 0.7 percent from the previous quarter amid a strong yen and waning global demand. A rise in the Japanese currency reduces the value of exporters' profits overseas and makes Japanese goods pricier in foreign markets.
    The road ahead looks brighter, with economists saying GDP will expand this quarter in tandem with global growth. The head of Japan's central bank, Masaaki Shirakawa, said last week that that recent signs indicate Japan is emerging from the "pause" and performing at par with other advanced economies.
    Ryutaro Kono, chief economist at BNP Paribas in Tokyo, says exports and production have escaped their "soft patches."
    "The economy seems to be recovering again from December, so the negative growth in (the fourth quarter) need not become the basis for pessimism about Japan's cyclical outlook," he said in a report this month.
     
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    Most economists agree that while China as a whole is growing, and the average person is getting wealthier, comparing only the size of its economy to Japan's does not paint an accurate enough picture.

    "GDP per head in China is about $4,500, but in Japan it's about $40,000 per head," said Mr Miller of GK Dragonomics.

    "Most people in China are still poor, more people live in the countryside than in cities. The average Japanese person is much much richer than the average Chinese person."
     
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    Living standards za wachina wengi bado ziko duni sana kulinganisha na Japan, EU na hata US.
    Kama mdau hapo alivyosema per capita yao iko chini sana.
    Ukubwa wa uchumi sio maisha bora kwa walio wengi.
     
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    Taarifa hiyo hiyo pia imesema:
    Kwa hiyo, ukubwa wa pua hapa inaweza kuwa ni wingi wa makamasi tu.
     
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    Pamoja na kwamba maisha ya wachina bado yako chini lakini tayari tunaona initiatives zinazofanywa na serikali kuhakikisha kuwa uchumi unakua na kuwaondoa wachina waliosalia kwenye umaskini wanyanyuke. moyo wa kubadilika na kutenda wanao!
     
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    siku moja nikiwa nchi fulani ya Asia niliangalia comentary moja kwenye TV walikuwa wanajadili mada ya THE SHIFTING OF GLOBAL POWERS TO THE EAST. yaliyoibuka huko ni wazi kuwa in few decades to come, the east will be leading the world in almost everything! ingawa walijikita zaidi kiuchumi, hususani maendeleo ya viwanda, sayansi na echnolojia, lakini ilikuwa wazi kuwa the west has become too old to compete against the eastern highly cherishing enthusiasm for growth and prosperity
     
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