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Car Computer Diagnosis - Possible Career ?

Discussion in 'Tech, Gadgets & Science Forum' started by PlanckScale, Mar 25, 2009.

  1. PlanckScale

    PlanckScale JF-Expert Member

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    As a hobby, I have been playing around with my car's computer in order to maximize the car's performance. Part of the reason for modifying the computer was to enable the car to accept the unconventional parts I had installed (bigger turbo, bigger injectors, bigger exhaust, bigger inter-cooler, bigger fuel pump, etc). The other reason was to have the ability to diagnosis the car, if needed.

    The car computer, which is also called Engine Control Unit (ECU) or Control Box (as it is famously known in Bongo) has two types of communication protocols: OBDII and CAN. These protocols allow the user/technician to export/import data from the car for maintenance purposes. The OBDII protocol is an earlier implementation and mostly used in USA, while CAN is a more versatile protocol, more advance, and mostly used in Europe. However, the American market is slowly changing to CAN 2.0, as it becomes the industry's defector. Btw, CAN stands for Controller Area (yes you guess it right) Network!

    It has always cross my mind that this can be a good career/business opportunity for someone with a good IT hardware/software background. Armed with a Laptop and a good knowledge of how various sensors in the car works, one can make good money as a troubleshooter. All fuel injector cars have these Control Boxes, and the newer cars are even more sophisticated computers embedded sensors for almost every module in the car (air bags, ABS, auto transmission, AC, alarm, remote access, etc).

    Sometimes we in the IT field need to think outside the IT box...
    Just my .2 cents
  2. K

    Kampton Member

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    its a good challenge for as dd u work on it u bring as a way of think out of box? cul u giv as an hits on how to work on it.to me its new idea giv us that brain
  3. PlanckScale

    PlanckScale JF-Expert Member

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    Here are some links.

    OBD-II - On-Board Diagnostic System
    Carley Automotive Software
    What is CAN Bus? - CAN Bus Products - Bridgwater Electronics Somerset | Car Alarms.
    CAN-BUS-Multi training system with ancillary LIN-BUS - ELWE Technik GmbH

    The advantage you will have as an IT is your ability to run and troubleshoot the software on your laptop, and your ability to relate error codes to symptoms - basic troubleshooting skills. But, some knowledge on how car sensors work with the engine is required (Oxygen sensors, knock sensor, throttle position sensor, Cam angle sensor, timing maps, optimum Air/Fuel ratio, Manifold Differential Pressure Sensor, Injector duty cycle, and much more ...)
  4. AljuniorTz

    AljuniorTz JF-Expert Member

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    How Car Computers Work

    Introduction to How Car Computers Work

    Each year, cars seem to get more and more complicated. Cars today might have as many as 50 microprocessors on them. Although these microprocessors make it more difficult for you to work on your own car, some of them actually make your car easier to service.
    Some of the reasons for this increase in the number of microprocessors are:
    • The need for sophisticated engine controls to meet emissions and fuel-economy standards
    • Advanced diagnostics
    • Simplification of the manufacture and design of cars
    • Reduction of the amount of wiring in cars
    • New safety features
    • New comfort and convenience features
    In this article, we'll take a look at how each of these factors has influenced the design of your car.
    Sophisticated Engine Controls
    Before emissions laws were enacted, it was possible to build a car engine without microprocessors. With the enactment of increasingly stricter emissions laws, sophisticated control schemes were needed to regulate the air/fuel mixture so that the catalytic converter could remove a lot of the pollution from the exhaust.



    Controlling the engine is the most processor-intensive job on your car, and the engine control unit (ECU) is the most powerful computer on most cars. The ECU uses closed-loop control, a control scheme that monitors outputs of a system to control the inputs to a system, managing the emissions and fuel economy of the engine (as well as a host of other parameters). Gathering data from dozens of different sensors, the ECU knows everything from the coolant temperature to the amount of oxygen in the exhaust. With this data, it performs millions of calculations each second, including looking up values in tables, calculating the results of long equations to decide on the best spark timing and determining how long the fuel injector is open. The ECU does all of this to ensure the lowest emissions and best mileage.

    A modern ECU might contain a 32-bit, 40-MHz processor. This may not sound fast compared to the 500- to 1,000-MHz processor you probably have in your PC, but remember that the processor in your car is running much more efficient code than the one in your PC. The code in an average ECU takes up less than 1 megabyte (MB) of memory. By comparison, you probably have at least 2 gigabytes (GB) of programs on your computer -- that's 2,000 times the amount in an ECU

    ECU Components

    The processor is packaged in a module with hundreds of other components on a multi-layer circuit board. Some of the other components in the ECU that support the processor are:
    • Analog-to-digital converters - These devices read the outputs of some of the sensors in the car, such as the oxygen sensor. The output of an oxygen sensor is an analog voltage, usually between 0 and 1.1 volts (V). The processor only understands digital numbers, so the analog-to-digital converter changes this voltage into a 10-bit digital number.
    • High-level digital outputs - On many modern cars, the ECU fires the spark plugs, opens and closes the fuel injectors and turns the cooling fan on and off. All of these tasks require digital outputs. A digital output is either on or off -- there is no in-between. For instance, an output for controlling the cooling fan might provide 12 V and 0.5 amps to the fan relay when it is on, and 0 V when it is off. The digital output itself is like a relay. The tiny amount of power that the processor can output energizes the transistor in the digital output, allowing it to supply a much larger amount of power to the cooling fan relay, which in turn provides a still larger amount of power to the cooling fan.
    • Digital-to-analog converters - Sometimes the ECU has to provide an analog voltage output to drive some engine components. Since the processor on the ECU is a digital device, it needs a component that can convert the digital number into an analog voltage.
    • Signal conditioners - Sometimes the inputs or outputs need to be adjusted before they are read. For instance, the analog-to-digital converter that reads the voltage from the oxygen sensor might be set up to read a 0- to 5-V signal, but the oxygen sensor outputs a 0- to 1.1-V signal. A signal conditioner is a circuit that adjusts the level of the signals coming in or out. For instance, if we applied a signal conditioner that multiplied the voltage coming from the oxygen sensor by 4, we'd get a 0- to 4.4-V signal, which would allow the analog-to-digital converter to read the voltage more accurately (see How Analog and Digital Recording Works for more details).
    • Communication chips - These chips implement the various communications standards that are used on cars. There are several standards used, but the one that is starting to dominate in-car communications is called CAN (controller-area networking). This communication standard allows for communication speeds of up to 500 kilobits per second (Kbps). That's a lot faster than older standards. This speed is becoming necessary because some modules communicate data onto the bus hundreds of times per second. The CAN bus communicates using two wires.

    Advanced Diagnostics

    Another benefit of having a communications bus is that each module can communicate faults to a central module, which stores the faults and can communicate them to an off-board diagnostic tool.


    This can make it easier for technicians to diagnose problems with the car, especially intermittent problems, which are notorious for disappearing as soon as you bring the car in for repairs.
    BATauto.com: Technical Info Pages lists the fault codes stored in the ECU for various carmakers. Sometimes, the codes can be accessed without a diagnostic tool. For instance, on some cars, by jumping two of the pins in the diagnostic connecter and then turning the ignition key to run, the "check engine" light will flash a certain pattern to indicate the number of the fault code stored in the ECU.

    Let's take a look at how microprocessors and communications standards have made cars easier to build.

    Easier Design and Manufacturing

    Having communication standards has made designing and building cars a little easier. A good example of this simplification is the car's instrument cluster.
    The instrument cluster gathers and displays data from various parts of the vehicle. Most of this data is already used by other modules in the car. For instance, the ECU knows the coolant temperature and engine speed. The transmission controller knows the vehicle speed. The controller for the anti-lock braking system (ABS) knows if there is a problem with the ABS.
    All of these modules simply send this data onto the communications bus. Several times a second, the ECU will send out a packet of information consisting of a header and the data. The header is just a number that identifies the packet as either a speed or a temperature reading, and the data is a number corresponding to that speed or temperature. The instrument panel contains another module that knows to look for certain packets -- whenever it sees one, it updates the appropriate gauge or indicator with the new value.

    Most carmakers buy the instrument clusters fully assembled from a supplier, who designs them to the carmaker's specifications. This makes the job of designing the instrument panel a lot easier, both for the carmaker and the supplier.

    It is easier for the carmaker to tell the supplier how each gauge will be driven. Instead of having to tell the supplier that a particular wire will provide the speed signal, and it will be a varying voltage between 0 and 5 V, and 1.1 V corresponds to 30 mph, the carmaker can just provide a list of the packets of data. Then, it is the carmaker's responsibility to make sure that the correct data is output onto the communications bus.
    It is easier for the supplier to design the instrument panel because he doesn't need to know any details of how the speed signal is generated, or where it's coming from. Instead, the instrument panel simply monitors the communications bus and updates the gauges when it receives new data.
    These types of communications standards make it very uncomplicated for carmakers to outsource the design and manufacture of components: The carmaker doesn't have to worry about the details of how each gauge or light is driven, and the supplier who makes the instrument panel doesn't have to worry about where the signals are coming from.

    Smart Sensors

    Clusters are now being used on a smaller scale for sensors. For instance, a traditional pressure sensor contains a device that outputs a varying voltage depending on the pressure applied to the device. Usually, the voltage output is not linear, depends on the temperature and is a low-level voltage that requires amplification.

    Some sensor manufacturers are providing a smart sensor that is integrated with all the electronics, along with a microprocessor that enables it to read the voltage, calibrates it using temperature-compensation curves and digitally outputs the pressure onto the communications bus.
    This saves the carmaker from having to know all the dirty details of the sensor, and saves processing power in the module, which otherwise would have to do these calculations. It makes the supplier, who is most up on the details of the sensor anyway, responsible for providing an accurate reading.
    Another advantage of the smart sensor is that the digital signal traveling over the communications bus is less susceptible to electrical noise. An analog voltage traveling through a wire can pick up extra voltage when it passes certain electrical components, or even from overhead power lines.
    Communication buses and microprocessors also help simplify the wiring through multiplexing. Let's take a closer look at how they do this.

    Simplified Wiring

    Multiplexing is a technique that can simplify the wiring in a car. In older cars, the wires from each switch run to the device they power. With more and more devices at the driver's command each year, multiplexing is necessary to keep the wiring from getting out of control. In a multiplexed system, a module containing at least one microprocessor consolidates inputs and outputs for an area of the car. For instance, cars that have lots of controls on the door may have a driver's-door module. Some cars have power-window, power-mirror, power-lock and even power-seat controls on the door. It would be impractical to run the thick bundle of wires that would come from a system like this out of the door. Instead, the driver's-door module monitors all of the switches.


    Here's how it works: If the driver presses his window switch, the door module closes a relay that provides power to the window motor. If the driver presses the switch to adjust the passenger-side mirror, the driver's door module sends a packet of data onto the communication bus of the car. This packet tells a different module to energize one of the power-mirror motors. In this way, most of the signals that leave the driver's door are consolidated onto the two wires that form the communication bus.
    The development of new safety systems has also increased the number of microprocessors in cars. We'll talk about this in the next section.

    Safety, Comfort and Convenience

    Over the last decade, we've seen safety systems such as ABS and air bags become common on cars. Other safety features such as traction-control and stability-control systems are starting to become common as well. Each of these systems adds a new module to the car, and this module contains multiple microprocessors. In the future, there will be more and more of these modules all over the car as new safety systems are added.
    Each of these safety systems requires more processing power, and is usually packaged in its own electronics module. But it doesn't end there. In coming years, we'll have all kinds of new convenience features in our cars, and each of these requires more electronics modules containing multiple microprocessors.
    It seems that there is no limit to how much technology carmakers are going to pack into our cars. The addition of all these electronic features is one of the factors driving carmakers to increase the system voltage on cars from the current 14-V system to a 42-V system. This will help provide the extra power these modules require.

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  5. SnEafer

    SnEafer Senior Member

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    The technology is just perfect...
    nice one.

  6. Albedo

    Albedo JF-Expert Member

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    Du! Hii safi sana maana watu wengi wanalia Bandarini na Magari yao yanaibwa sana ECU halafu ni Very Expensive, kuna Mshikaji waliichomoa yake imemgharimu kama 1.6 M.

    Asante sana Mkulu
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    Ndahani JF-Expert Member

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    I have seen engineers/technicians working in mining, troubleshooting the mining equipments, mostly Caterpillars, using computers. Mechanical/Automotive technicians and engineers around are trained on the basics of engines.I don't think they are going into details of how those ECM programmes are being written.I think what would be required is to understand the protocals/functions of the software used in ECM. By the way, in order to trouble shoot by computer, the technicians must have the compatible softwares. Is there any where those with interest could get the ECM compatible sofware for trouble shooting?
  8. PlanckScale

    PlanckScale JF-Expert Member

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    Just search based on your car model. There are many generic applications, which meet the basic diagnosis required as per emission inspection (because that is what the OBD standard was created for). But, specific software with proprietary features are also available for a price.

    The application I am using has been very helpful on troubleshooting, especially being in bongo. Here is what I use:

    v3summary [ECMTuning - wiki]
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