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Can we take Adv of Billionaires who Visit TZ?

Discussion in 'Habari na Hoja mchanganyiko' started by Kamundu, Sep 3, 2009.

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    Kamundu JF-Expert Member

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    Software Mogul Attacked by Elephant During Safari
    Published: Thursday, 3 Sep 2009 | 9:30 AM ET

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    Silicon Valley billionaire Tom Siebel says he's recovering from broken ribs and legs after an elephant charged at him and a tour guide in the Serengeti a month ago.

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    The 55-year-old Siebel on Wednesday told the San Jose Mercury News that the animal plowed into the guide and then attacked him, breaking several ribs, goring him in the left leg and crushing the right leg.
    The Siebel Systems software founder says the Aug. 1 attack occurred during a safari in Tanzania.
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    He says he and the guide were watching a group of elephants from about 200 yards away when one animal charged at them without warning.
    He says he expects to make a full recovery after reconstructive surgery and physical therapy.
    Siebel's estimated worth is $1.9 billion as of 2008.
     
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    Taking advantage is so negative, sounds almost like swindling -or giving a girl the bottle and then do the nasty when she is drunk- do you mean "benefit"?

    If so, yes, we could start by learning proper English so we could communicate better.If I was a billionaire and saw that Tanzanians are conniving to "take advantage of billionares" I would want to go somewhere else.

    While on the subject, we could also work to secure the place a bit better, although it is supposed to be the wild.
     
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    Blue Ray, you have a excellent command of the English language, actually I admire your command of both English and Kiswahili, but in this case I think you are going a bit too far with your criticism. It is unnecessarily and it may even be judged to be unfair by some.

    Take advantage is an English idiom that has more dimensions that you would care to believe, both positive and negative. Taking advantage for example could mean to exploit or selfishly profit from these (in this case) billionaires visiting Tanzania. This is negative, no billionare that I know would like to be exploited.

    On the other hand taking advantage could mean “putting something to good use” or to avail oneself of something. This is a positive connotation. For example you can take a walk at the park or beach to “take advantage” of the nice sunny weather.

    So when Kamundu is suggesting whether we should take billionaires visit Tanzania, I think he is referring to the latter, ie put them to good use while we have their undivided attention, which makes sense to me. I don’t believe any living billionaire will find this statement offensive (not that I am claiming to be billionaire myself:) Are we on the same wavelength or is further clarification necessary?
     
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    It won't be wild would it?!!
    He's got medical/life insurance and that should cover him not only being trampled upon by ndovuz but even his bones being crushed by powerful hyenas jaws! Let the wild be wild, stories like this on main stream media in my thinking actually does good for our tourism. They promotes true wild wild Africa!
     
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    You were supposed to use capital H on Hyena. And, it is not hyenas jaws. Two plurals do not follow each other. In strict adherence to the rules of grammar usage and mechanics, you were supposed to apostrophize the word Hyena because you followed it by the word 'jaw' in it's plural form. Thus, it should have read; Hyena's jaws.

    Mainstream as one word and not two words.

     
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    Steve Dii JF-Expert Member

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    Gotcha Mwalimu Ngabu!! :D

    au nawe mpaka umshikishe masikio mwanafunzi ndiyo ujisikie umetimiza wajibu wako wa kufundisha?!
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    Nyani Ngabu Platinum Member

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    Ooh noo. You are a good student!

    Ebana eeeh hapo wapi hapo? Au ndo mlivyokuwa mnafanyiwa hivyo Nyakahoja...Lol...

    Hiyo huku nilipo inaitwa "abuse"...
     
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    Steve umezibuka, English and pedantics aside, huko kwenye mbuga kuna mbu na wadudu kichizi, mpaka kwenye hoteli. Steve kama unataka hilo nalo liwe kivutio cha watalii poa, lakini wengine wengi watakacha kuja kwa sababu hiyo. There is a delicate line hapo between making it willd but approachable kwa watalii, otherwise tutakuwa tunataka kuanzisha nyanja nyingine ya utalii as an extreme sport, right up there with "Bungee jumping on a brigde near the Victoria Falls".
     
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    umecheki mradi wa mwalimu hapo.... hilo dumu la shikrimu.... lol, usiponunua ifikapo saa nne asubuhi (breki) kama hao wenzangu na mimi lazima ushikishwe masikio kwa makusudi tu kwa kisingizio cha kutoweza kuitaja jedwari za kuzidisha la 13... wakati madaftari yote matatu ya kiswahili na kiingereza na hisabati ndani ya begi hilo la kushonesha (unaliona hapo nyuma) kwa nyuma yake yalikuwa yanaishia times table inayoishia ya 12 tu...
     
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    Mimi na Rev.Kishoka tukifanikisha mipango yetu tunataka kuendeleza kimbuga kimoja hapa bongo.... our prime target is that what you call extreme sports enthusiasts kutoka ng'ambo!!! Ukitaka jump on board, hata NN unakaribishwa... kutakuwepo na kufukuzwa na fisi, kuruka tembo (high jumping), kuiba mayai ya mbuni akiwa anaatamia... na mengine kadha wa kadha.... :D
     
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    Count me in....
     
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    Tofautisha "to take advantage of our natural resources" or "to take advantage of tourism" as opposed to "to take advantage of billionaires" katika kiingereza unapo "take advantage of a situation/ resource" kuna uwezekano mkubwa wa kuwa unafanya positively e.g unatumia mazingira/ resources to human advantage (which in almost all cases has a negative effect on the side of mazingira/ resource, if we take advantage of Mount Kilimanjaro to promote tourism we inherently cause pollution up there -the mountain is getting filthy as we speak, if you take advantage of the natural habitat of our wildlife you are inherently invading and changing their habitat, but Im not saying this to be a tree hugger, just pointing the exploitative nature of "taking advantage"- but we are giving humans precedence here, so I will give you a pass to "take advantage of nature". But when you apply the same saying to human it's exploitative nature becomes overly apparent.

    Hata kama daktari kaja kutoka Uingereza kaenda kuangalia ngoma za wamasai, mtu akaumwa, ukamwambia "we are going to take advantage of your presence here so you could help heal this man" ataona jinsi anavyotumiwa, anaweza kukubali na kumtibu mgonjwa, lakini moyoni anaweza kusema "How did I get into this, I was supposed to be having fun"

    Subtle and seemingly unimportant/ unnecessary hair splitting kama hizi zinaweza kusababisha tofauti, hususan kama mtu anafikiri kwamba tunajua kiingereza kama tunavyotakiwa kujua, being in the commonwealth and all.

    Ona hapa

    http://www.thefreedictionary.com/take+advantage
     
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    Kamundu JF-Expert Member

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    I mean number 1.
    1. To put to good use; avail oneself of: take advantage of all educational opportunities.
    2. To profit selfishly by; exploit: took advantage of the customer
     
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    mweh mweh mweh! hiyo nadhani itakuwa maalum kwa madea devo eskapolojisti! mweh mwe! count me in.
     
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    I am disappointed at those game wardens who let this happen. They should take good care of the tourists,especially if they are rich tourists. If I could give my views on this,I would,as Shakespeare would say,''abuse God's patience and the King's english'' So,suffice it to say,that those people should take good care of the tourists.''
     
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