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Baraza la wawakilishi Zanzibar latetea matumizi ya bendera ya taifa kwa meli za Iran

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    Njoka Ereguu JF-Expert Member

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    Wakati mataifa ya Magharibi yanatishia kuiwekea vikwazo Tanzania kwa kuruhusu usajili ya meli za mafuta za Iran na kutumia bendera ya Taifa, baraza la wawakishi Zanzibar, limesema Zanzibar kama sehemu ya Muungano wa haki ya kusajili meli ya Iran au nchi yoyote ile kwa maslahi ya Wazanzibar na kuwa taarifa na kelele zinazoendelea ni njia ya kutaka kuwakatika tamaa Wazanzibar kujiletea maendeleo.

    My take:

    Huu ni mwendelezo wa kutaka kuhalalisha kuvunjika kwa muungano.

    July 02, 2012
     
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    Godfrey Electronics JF-Expert Member

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    cjakuelewa mkuu, rekebisha kiswahili kaka au fafanua zaidi
     
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    Mnyamahodzo JF-Expert Member

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    Lipo neno hapa.

    Tuwaache wazanzibar wakae na waarabu wao.
     
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    Filipo JF-Expert Member

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    Kwanini walipowasajili hawakuwawekea bendera ya Z'bar!? Si wana bendera yao? Huu ni uchokozi!
     
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    Uwezo Tunao JF-Expert Member

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    ROSTAM AZIZ NA BIASHARA BINAFSI KATI YA IKULU ZA TEHRAN NA MAGOGONI KUTUINGIZA MAJARIBUNI KAMA TAIFA KATIKA USO WA JUMUIA YA KIMATAIFA

    ... wengine tumeonya sana tu juu ya Biashara za Rostam Aziz kutuingiza motoni lakini hata siku moja hatukusikilizwa na badla yake hili li-mdudu lilipewa heko kwenye jukwaa la siasa kule Igunga na kupachikwa jina la 'Simba wa Vita'.

    Yeyote anayesema kwamba kwanini tuchaguliwe marafiki;

    1. kwanza tangulia kujibu swali kwamba ni lini Bunge letu tukufu kule Dodomaliliporidhia hili zoezi la Meli za Irani kupachikwa Bendera yetu ya taifa na kuchanja mbuga kwa jina letu lakini kwa faida yao?

    2. Je, maridhiano kama hayo yako kwenye Hansard ya bunge letu ukurasa wa ngapi?

    3. Je, kitendo cha taifa letu kuingizwa kwenye biashara HARAMU na HATARISHI kama hii mbele ya uso wa Jumuia ya Kimataifa, hadi leo hii taifa letu limenufaika kiasi gani cha fedha kwa kuamua kujitwisha 'kiroba cha bangi' kilichomshinda M-Irani?

    4. Je, kati ya wabunge wetu zaidi ya 350 kule Dodoma, ni wangapi wanaojua undani wa makubaliano kati ya Rais Kikwete na uongozi wa Tehran?

    5. Je, Iran imekua ikiifadhili CCM kupitia 'Mwekahazina wa Taifa Rostam Aziz' kwa miaka hiyo yote huku wao wakipata maslahi-rejea gani over the counter?

    6. Je, iweje Zanzibar iruhusiwe kutumia jina la 'Tanzania' ambalo wako bize kila leo KULIKANA na kutaka Muungano ufe kwa haraka sana huku wakiendelea kufanyia biashara hatarishi kama hili kwa kutumia jina hilo hilo BAYA AMBALO WAKO RADHI WAFE KULIKO KUBAKIA NDANI YAKE kujinufaisha CCM kimtindo kwa ajili ya kukusanya fedha kupitia MCHONGO BINAFSI YA KUNDI MOJAWAPO NDANI YA CCM na Iran kuja kununulia tena madaraka 2015?

    7. Viongozi wa CCM wanapoingiza taifa letu kwenye biashara za kunufaisha kile kinachosadikiwa kuwa ni 'ugaidi na juhudi za kigaidi kwa mapana na marefu yake katika ukanda wetu huu na kuchinja ovyo wananchi gizani kupitia vikundi hatari vinavyofadhiliwa na serikali hiyo hiyo ya CCM' je tutawezaje kujitenga na dhambi hii kama sisi kama walazwahoi wa taifa hili hatuoni sababu yoyote ya kumwambia Dr Kikwete kwamba huko unakotupeleka HATUKO TAYARI?

    NB: Swala la uhusiano binafsi kati ya Magogoni na Irani kamwe si salama kwa taifa letu kwa kuwa wananchi hata siku moja hatujawahi KUSHIRIKISHWA wala kuwekwa bayana faida na hasara zake zaidi ya kila kitu kuzungukwa na USIRI NA UFISADI WA KIFAMILIA kwa mgongo wa taifa zima. Hili halikubaliki hata kidogo hapa nyumbani na hata huko Ughaibuni.

    Mwisho; sote tusisahau kukumbuka hili neno hapa - Dr Stephen Ulimboka kwa bahati mbaya sana itokee kwamba ataaga dunia au mwanaharakati mwingine yeyote yule kuguswa tena visivyo basi Magogoni wakae wakijua kwamba gharika la damu ya hao wote watakaodhurika leo ama kesho ndio itakayogeuka Tsunami la kulifunika kabisa CCM kabisa hata kabla ya jua la muula wake wa utawala wa kichakachuaji huu kuzama.

    Wananchi sote tuamke na tuseme usiri katika biashara binafsi na Iran pale Ikulu lazima ikome mara moja.

     
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    Watu8 JF-Expert Member

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    hakika huu ni uchokozi, iweje wao kama wana bendera yao na bendera hiyo ipo chini ya mamlaka yao,wasiitumie hiyo? Hapa kuna namna ya makusudi iliyofanyika.
     
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    zomba JF-Expert Member

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    Sasa hawa Wazanzibari wanataka kutuingiza kwenye matatizo, si tuvunje tu Muungano na wao? kwi kwi kwi teh teh teh!
     
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    Filipo JF-Expert Member

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    mnafiki utamjua tu!
     
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    zomba JF-Expert Member

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    Sasa unafik uko wapi hapo?
     
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    hicho kicheko umekalia nini mtoto
     
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    zomba JF-Expert Member

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    Muungano mtamu lakini mchungu! Mume kaamuwa kutafuta wachumba wengine. Kwi kwi kwi teh teh teh! bado tu tuna hamu na huyo mume?
     
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    Sangarara JF-Expert Member

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    acha kutoa vicheko vya jabu ajabu unajidhalilisha ZOMBA.
     
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    Mwanaharakatihuru JF-Expert Member

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    Na wewe afande hehehe huoni eti muungano uvunjike
     
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    MANI Platinum Member

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    Mimi pia nilishangaa ni yeye kweli ?
     
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    zanzibar washa tushika makalio na mdhaifu anachekea hiki ndo kifo cha magamba bifu na mzungu hawataliweza kuna Myahudi,mmarekani na Mwingereza ...wamelikoroga!
     
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    Hao wawakilishi wanatetea bendera ipi? Ya Zanzibar? Kama ni bendera ya Muungano waliwasiliana na upande wa pili wa muungano kabla ya kutoa kibali?
     
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    Kama Zanzibar ni nchi, na nchi hiyo inabendera yake, kwa nini wasitumie bendera ya Zanzibar badala ya Tanzania?
     
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    The Zanzibar government yesterday defended its move to register Iranian oil tankers, saying it didn’t break any laws as claimed by a section of the international media early this week. Zanzibar Infrastructure and Communication minister Hamad Masoud Hamad refuted reports that the Isles government had registered Iranian oil tankers as reported by Bloomberg News Agency early this week. The minister admitted however that the said Iranian oil tankers were previously registered in Cyprus and Malta islands. Briefing the House of Representatives yesterday, Hamad said the registered oil tankers were not covered by international sanctions imposed on Iranian ships by the European Union and the United States. The minister stated that according to the Zanzibar Marine Transport AuthorityAct, number 3 of 2009, and the Zanzibar Marine Transport Act of 2006, the Isles government had full autonomy to register international ships. According to the minister, Zanzibar entered into an agreement with a Dubai-based company, Philtex Ltd, to act as its agent in the registration of all international ships, known in the shipping industry as ‘open registry’. The minister added that open registry had been in effect since 2009, whereby a number of international cargo ships, oil tankers and passenger vessels were registered in Zanzibar. Contrary to the media reports, the minister said, the vessels claimed to belong to Iranian authorities were in fact owned by British nationals living in the Virgin Islands and the Seychelles. The minister warned against interference by the union government in the matter as promised by his counterpart, Dr Harrison Mwakyembe, saying marine transport in Zanzibar wasn’t a union affair. Citing relations between Iran and Zanzibar, the minister said the two countries had strong ties, adding that that was why Iran’s vice-president recently visited the Indian Ocean archipelago to discuss how to strengthen the relations. He warned that Zanzibar wasn’t ready to be dragged into the ongoing conflicts between Iran and Western countries. Speaking about the Iranian tanker flying the Tanzanian flag, the minister said since Zanzibar was part of the union, there was nothing wrong for vessels registered in the Isles to fly the union flag. “But if the Tanzanian government won’t feel comfortable with the tankers flying the union flag we are ready to let them fly the Zanzibar flag. This is no big deal and it should not be blown out of proportion,” the minister said. On Monday, Bloomberg News Agency reported that NITC, an oil-tanker company owned by Iranian pension funds, renamed at least 10 of its vessels and switched them to flying the Tanzanian flag amid increasing curbs on transactions with the Persian Gulf nation. NITC renamed five large crude oil carriers, each with a capacity to hold about 2 million barrels of oil, and five Suezmaxes, hauling 1 million barrels each, according to the Equasis shipping database maintained by the European Commission, Bloomberg reported. Ownership was switched from NITC to new companies operating from the same address in Tehran and NITC remains the operator, the data show. All the ships were previously registered in Malta or Cyprus. A European embargo on Iranian crude exports, which comes into effect on July 1, extends to insuring vessels that carry oil. Twenty-five NITC tankers are being used to store crude, the Paris-based International Energy Agency said on June 13, this year. The US and Europe said Iran’s nuclear programme was aimed at developing atomic weapons while the government in Tehran says it is for civilian purposes. Habibolah Seyedan, NITC’s commercial director, was unavailable for comment, said a person who answered a call to his office yesterday. The company lists 39 tankers on its website. Philtex Corp. operates the administrative office of the Tanzania Zanzibar International Register of Shipping from Dubai, according to the register’s website. SOURCE: THE GUARDIAN
     
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    mgen JF Bronze Member

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    ahahahahaa! janja ya paka panya kwisa tambua!
    NDOA hii haina talaka, kilicho bakia ni bakora kwa kwenda mbele, mpaka huyu mbuguma atwihi na kuendelea kupika urojo uwani! hulijui hilo bro?
     
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    Nahisi tunatoa mawazo yetu zaidi kwa ushabiki pengine hata kujua kiini cha mzozo wenyewe.

    - Kwanza ieleweke kuwa "Si kosa kwa mujibu wa sheria zilizopo kwa Zanzibar kusajili meli za nje kwa jina na bendera ya Tanzania. Hii ni kwa mujibu wa vifungu vya sheria hii:
    Na kwa mujibu wa sheria hiyo, kwa miaka sasa imekuwa ikisajili meli kwa kutumia bendera ya Tanzania kwa sababu, mpaka hapo Muungano utakapovunjika kwa wanaotaka uvunjike, Zanzibar na Tanganyika zina haki sawa ya kutuia bendera hiyo "kwa mujibu wa sheria".

    - Tazizo lililopo ni kuwa meli zinazotajwa a) Wamiliki wake ni raia wa British Virgin Islans na Sychelles b) Meli hizo zimesajiliwa Malta na Cyprus

    Kwa hivyo, ikiwa Tehran imefanya mizengwe ya kubadilisha usajili ni juu ya Umoja wa Ulaya kuwabana pia wamiliki wa meli hizo na zilikosajiliwa kwanza.
     
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