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BAE sets up panel to allocate £29.5m Tanzania cash fund

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    By Amy Wilson and Jonathan Russell
    The Telegraph
    15, May 2011


    BAE Systems, Britain's biggest defence company, has set up an internal panel to allocate the £29.5m it agreed to donate to Tanzania as part of its settlement with the Serious Fraud Office (SFO).

    Nearly six months after the approval by the High Court of the company's settlement with the SFO regarding the sale of a radar to Tanzania, BAE has revealed how it will spend the money.

    The British Government was understood to have been keen for BAE to give the money directly to the Government of Tanzania. However, the company has created a six-person panel to decide how it should be spent.

    The payment was part of a deal reached in February 2010 to settle a long-running bribery and corruption investigation by the SFO, in which investigators dropped their prosecution and agreed a £30m settlement with BAE for failure to keep proper accounting records over the sale of the radar.

    BAE had failed to account properly for $12m (£7.4m) of payments made to a former marketing adviser. At the same time, BAE admitted to "defrauding the US" over the sale of fighter planes to Saudi Arabia and Eastern Europe and paid a $400m fine to the Department of Justice.

    After paying a small portion of the fine to the UK courts, the defence company was left with £29.5m to give to the people of Tanzania, which BAE intends to distribute through charities rather than the Tanzanian government.

    The SFO entrusted the process to BAE. Richard Alderman, director of the SFO, said: "Returning money to the people of Tanzania was at the heart of the agreement I negotiated with BAE and I am pleased that the process has begun."

    A BAE spokesman said the company's charitable giving policy directs it to give money to veterans' and armed forces charities and organisations involved with education and skills. As a result, giving the money to the government would not be appropriate, it said.

    However, the Foreign Office was understood to have been keen for payment to be made directly to the Tanzanian government.

    BAE is setting up an advisory board of three members of staff and the same number of external advisers, who will come from a "non-corporate" background and have experience working in Africa.

    The board does not have a timetable for distributing the money, which has been put into an interest-bearing account separate from BAE's own accounts, but a spokesman said the company has already been inundated with requests from charities in the country, and stressed that the process will not be rushed.
     
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    Habari kama hii usingeweza kumwambia Nyerere hata siku moja yaani uitapeli serikali kwa kuinflate bei ya bidhaa halafu kuilipa unajipangia umlipe nani. Maeneo kama haya mtu kama JK angekuwa sincere, ethical and clean ndiyo yalikuwa ya kujichukulia point kiulaini kuongeza approval rating.
     
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    Hii imekaaje? inaelekea hawa jamaa hawazijui vizuri NGOs za Bongo, hii ingefanikiwa kama zingepelekwa serikalini kwa conditions zinazoelekeza matumizi kisha awepo mshauri watakeyemwamini kusimamia. Hata hivyo BAE wenyewe mafisadi vilevile, sijui kati yao na serikali ya Tz nani amwonyeshe kidole mwenzake?!
     
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    Mkuu kumbuka hizi hela si msaada!!!!!!! Hizi hela ilitapeliwa serikali. Sasa tapeli anasema eti hakurudishii wewe hiyo hela, ila atachagua nani mtanzania wa kumpa. JK na serikali wana haki kabisa kukomaa hiyo hela irudi serikalini laki they have no gutz no moral authority.
     
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    Mapendekezo yangu: Wabunge walikomalie hili ...

    - Zisipewe NGO (nyingi ni wizi mtupu)
    Ila moja ya hili litafaa.

    - Tununue walau hiyo generator moja ya dharura
    - Tununue helicopter kwa ajili ya kuokolea watu kwenye majanga
    - Tununue state of the art fire engines.
     
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    Unajua mkuu hii hela idadi yake inakaribia ile ya EPA!
     
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    Kingine, hata kama hela zinarudishwa, kamwe walio husika wasije sahaulika kupatiwa adhabu ya usaliti na uhujumu wao
     
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    Tunaweza kujenga hata national nyingine 2 Arusha na Mwaza za capacity ya 40,000 seaters kuliko kuzipeleka huko kwenye vi-NGO's zikalipishe watu posho za semina zisizo na mbele wala nyuma.
     
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    Kwahiyo, hatuchelewi kuambiwa kwamba hela yote ya EPA "isharudishwa na kuwekwa kwenye mfuko wa kilimo kwanza"...
     
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    Mini nachoshangaa kwanini wengine walipwe mpaka milioni 400 dollars alafu siye tupewe kilichobakia tuu. Alafu wengine wamepeana kwa serikali huko USA alafu sisi wanataka watuzulumu eti wanataka kuwapa chariti. Mimi hata ningetaka hao watu watupe na interest ya hiyo hela waliyotutapeli na fidia ya kero iliyokoza.
     
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    I totally support this idea ndugu... hata kiwe kiwanja kimoja tu, litafaa sana. I would add to this by suggesting a state of the art athletics centre which would benefit our youngsters for generations to come, at the same time, kuongeza kulitangaza taifa kwa ushindi mbalimbali michezoni.

    But as you may well be aware of, hatuchelewi kusikia zimejengewa nyumba ya wageni wa waziri mkuu au kuwekwa kwenye mfuko wa kuendeleza halmashauri flani fulani hivi...!!
     
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    ....hii pesa si ilitoka Hazina. kwanini irudishwe ktk Charitable Organizations??, siungi mkono hili. Pesa irudishwe Serikalini.
     
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    Msipende kutaka kuvuna msikopanda. Serikali haikuchangia chochote katika upatikanaji wa fedha hii; sana sana viongozi waandamizi wa serikali hiyo walikula njama na BAE kuhujumu watanzania. Hata viongozi na watendaji walioshiriki kwenye njama hizo serikali imeshindwa kuwachukuluia hatua. Katika hali hiyo serikali ina uhalali gani wa kupewa fedha hiyo?
     
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    I agree! A lot to say for budget tegemezi eeh...?!!
     
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    BAE team to decide on Dar's radar billions Monday, 16 May 2011 23:16

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    Minister for Foreign Affairs and International Cooperation, Mr Bernard Membe

    By Lucas Liganga and Agencies

    Dar es Salaam. Britain's biggest defence company has set up an internal panel to allocate the £29.5 million it agreed to refund Tanzania as part of its settlement with the Serious Fraud Office (SFO), The Telegraph has reported.

    It said on Sunday that nearly six months after the approval by the High Court of the company's settlement with the SFO regarding the sale of a radar to Tanzania, the company - BAE Systems- had revealed how it would spend the money.The British government is understood to have been keen for BAE to give the money directly to the Tanzanian government.

    However, the company has created a six-person panel to decide how the money should be spent.
    The payment was part of a deal reached in February 2010 to settle a long-running bribery and corruption investigation by the SFO, in which investigators dropped their prosecution and agreed a £30 million settlement with BAE for failure to keep proper accounting records over the radar sale.

    BAE is setting up an advisory board of three members of staff and the same number of external advisers, who will come from a "non-corporate" background and have experience working in Africa.
    The board does not have a timetable for distributing the money, which has been put into an interest-bearing account separate from BAE's own accounts, but a spokesman said the company has already been inundated with requests from charities in the country, and stressed that the process will not be rushed.

    BAE had failed to account properly for $12 million (£7.4 million) of payments made to a former marketing adviser.
    After paying a small portion of the fine to the UK courts, the defence company was left with £29.5 million to give to Tanzanians. BAE intends to distribute it through charities rather than the Tanzanian government.

    Reached for comment yesterday, the minister for Foreign Affairs and International Cooperation, Mr Bernard Membe, said he had not seen the report. "If what you are saying is true, we are praying that it is not. It is totally unfair to deny the government of the monies that we owe them." He told The Citizen that the understanding was to reimburse the money to the ministry of Education and Vocational Training.

    He wondered which charity organisations would be given the money and for what purpose, adding that whether they are domestic or foreign charity organisations."The money was stolen from the government (of Tanzania) and should go back to the government," quipped Mr Membe.Mr Membe was also quoted in February as stating that the government would not accept that BAE pay the compensation to any organisation other than the government.

    "When it comes to that [giving the money to charities], there will be a problem. It is only logical that the money be paid back to the government because it came from the same government in the first place," he had said.
    While BAE Systems has admitted to financial impropriety in the radar deal and has agreed to compensate Tanzania, Mr Membe had strongly objected to the company's suggested means of compensation.

    The SFO entrusted the process to BAE. Mr Richard Alderman, director of the SFO, said: "Returning money to the people of Tanzania was at the heart of the agreement I negotiated with BAE and I am pleased that the process has begun."

    A BAE spokesman said the company's charitable giving policy directs it to give money to veterans' and armed forces charities and organisations involved with education and skills. As a result, giving the money to the government would not be appropriate, it said.However, the Foreign Office was understood to have been keen for payment to be made directly to the Tanzanian government.

    BAE which had been under investigation for offering kickbacks, reached agreement with the UK's SFO to plead guilty to an offence of not keeping accounting records properly. They did so as to escape a long court battle over claims the company kept slush funds to bribe its way into arms deals, including in poor countries like Tanzania.

    BAE agreed to pay a penalty of £30 million (Sh40 billion) in an out of court settlement in the case directly linked to the Tanzanian purchase. In total, BAE was expected to pay out a whopping $447 million to settle several other US and UK investigations into its bribery dealings.
     
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    Britain’s biggest defence company has set up an internal panel to allocate the £29.5 million it agreed to refund Tanzania as part of its settlement with the Serious Fraud Office (SFO), The Telegraph has reported. It said on Sunday that the company — BAE Systems— had revealed how it would spend the money. The British government is understood to have been keen for BAE to give the money directly to the Tanzanian government.

    However, the company has created a six-person panel to decide how the money should be spent. The payment was part of a deal reached in February 2010 to settle a long-running bribery and corruption investigation by the SFO, in which investigators dropped their prosecution and agreed a £30 million settlement with BAE for failure to keep proper accounting records over the radar sale.

    BAE is setting up an advisory board of three members of staff and the same number of external advisers, who will come from a “non-corporate” background and have experience working in Africa. The board does not have a timetable for distributing the money, which has been put into an interest-bearing account separate from BAE’s own accounts, but a spokesman said the company has already been inundated with requests from charities in the country, and stressed that the process will not be rushed.

    Reached for comment yesterday, the minister for Foreign Affairs and International Cooperation, Mr Bernard Membe, said he had not seen the report. “If what you are saying is true, we are praying that it is not. It is totally unfair to deny the government of the monies that we owe them.” He told The Citizen that the understanding was to reimburse the money to the ministry of Education and Vocational Training.

    He wondered which charity organisations would be given the money and for what purpose, adding that whether they are domestic or foreign charity organisations.“The money was stolen from the government (of Tanzania) and should go back to the government,” quipped Mr Membe. Mr Membe was also quoted in February as stating that the government would not accept that BAE pay the compensation to any organisation other than the government.

    “When it comes to that [giving the money to charities], there will be a problem. It is only logical that the money be paid back to the government because it came from the same government in the first place,” he had said. While BAE Systems has admitted to financial impropriety in the radar deal and has agreed to compensate Tanzania, Mr Membe had strongly objected to the company’s suggested means of compensation.

    A BAE spokesman said the company’s charitable giving policy directs it to give money to veterans’ and armed forces charities and organisations involved with education and skills. As a result, giving the money to the government would not be appropriate, it said.However, the Foreign Office was understood to have been keen for payment to be made directly to the Tanzanian government.

    BAE team to decide on Dar
     
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    Ish yamekuwa hayo tena
     
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    Hiyo pesa isipewe serikali. Haina hata aibu, huyu joka la kibisa Membe ati anasema pesa iliibwa kutoka serikalini, mbona hawasemi mwizi ni nani na wamemchukulia hatua gani? Wanadhani kila siku they will get away with their thievery and chaotic mismanagement.
     
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    Kweli mkuu. If the money was stolen from the government, then who stole it?
     
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    Wanamjua aliyeiba ndio maana hao wazungu wameamua waidharau serikali na kuipangia jinsi ya kulipa hiyo hela, maana wanajua ni mabogasi kabisa. Absolutely useless.
     
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