Area 51: Has The FBI Really Revealed The Truth This Time?

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  1. Given Edward

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    [h=3]"Hottel memo" Alien hoax reappears online after 60 years[/h]
    It seems like some people will believe almost anything as they continue to pursue the so-called "truth" behind Area 51.
    And that’s why the infamous "Hottel memo" hoax fooled so many people hook, line and sinker.
    The Hottel memo - supposedly released for the first time this week - was said to contain previously classified information regarding an alien crash in the late 1940s and a subsequent cover-up by the FBI.
    Appearing on multiple news sites as well as the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s "vault," the news reappeared on the Internet this week and spread like wildfire. [​IMG]
    The memo describes an Air Force investigator who described finding an alien craft crashed in the New Mexican desert with alien bodies in it.
    Written by FBI agent Guy Hottel, the report is based on what Air Force investigator told Guy Hottell of the FBI.
    After reading a story published in a Kansas City legal newspaper called the Wyandotte Echo, the investigator simply repeated it to Hottel verbatim.
    The story started with the account of Rudy Fick, a local used car dealer who got the story from two men, I.J. Van Horn and Jack Murphy, who said they heard the story from a man named "Coulter," who, in turn, heard it from Silas Newton.
    If you think this sounds like the game "telephone" where the story gets more and more warped every time it passes hands, then you’re absolutely right.
    To be sure, the hoax began with Newton and his accomplice, Leo A. Gebauer who were peddling "doodlebugs" - devices supposedly capable of magically locating oil, gas, gold, or whatever else a random sucker was hoping to find.
    Newton and Gebauer decided they could sell more doodlebugs by telling their targets it was based on alien technology they had found at the site of the UFO crash.
    Although there were no other witnesses to the crash and no evidence ever recovered, the story took off, showing up on the pages of the San Francisco Chronicle and eventually True magazine. After the story ran in 1952, multiple people came forward admitting to being scammed by Gebauer and Newton. The two were eventually indicted for fraud.
    Strangely enough, the story reappeared on the Internet this weekend, giving newfound hope to alien enthusiasts and Area 51 conspiracists. Sadly, it’s still a hoax, some 60 years later after the supposed event.
     
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    Amini usiamini Kuna Space ship ipo pale area 51 imekamatwa na usa sema hawataki kuelezea watu. na wanajaribu ku recover technology na weapons ili kutengeneza wawe nazo wao tu!!

    FBI hawawezi kueleza ukweli. sababu ya interest zao na kuna habali kuwa UFO zina contact na USA gorverment.

    Hapa ni area 51 kwa juu






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    uki karibia tu unapata tangazo hili, sema hayo maandishi madogo sijaya zoom ila yanasema "USE OF DEADLY FORCE FOR TRACE PASSER IS AURTHORIZED"" Kibali cha kuuwa mtu kimeruhusiwa hapo kwa mtu yoyote hata raia wa usa anapigwa risasi bomu chochote kile

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    na hii ndio spaceship waliyoikamata miaka ya 1950

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    Huyu jamaa ndio alitoa siri hadi leo watu wamejua na kufahamu ukweli na watu wa movie wanatengeneza movie sababu ya huyu jamaa(Kwenye picha ni allien ambaye alianguka na ndege yake ya hapo juu hakufa ila walimfanyia uchunguzi muda mrefu akaja faliki in the 1997 au 1999)

    aliuliwa kikatili baada ya kuvujisha siri kwa mtoto wake
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    SHAROBALO, dont be too sure; kumbuka kuna theories kadhaa kuhusiana na area 51!
     
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    BERMUDA TRIANGLE,midege yote na mimeli iliyopotea without trace over the years imechukuliwa na little green man with antennae like outgrowths on their foreheads.watu wote waliochukuliwa wamewekwa kwenye zoo za huko alien world-too them we look funny.Wako scientifically advanced that wanatuona sisi we are still in the stone age,maisha yao ni infinity,hakuna kufa.why they dont want contact with us is a million dollar question-for we need them more then they need us
     
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    yeah...dunia ni sehemu kama zoo tunafanyiwa experiment sisi tunajiona ni viumbe advanced sana kisa tumegundua muclear kumbe wao wapo mbali sana, ukiamua kubisha we bisha sababu hata ukibisha hakuna uthibitisho wa kutosa, kila mara watu wana ona UFO na uwezo wetu mdogo wao wako far, eti tunatumia RADIO WAVE kusikiliza angani kama kuna viumbe vingine hehe hatutawaikia sababu hii technology ya binadamu ni kama stone age...ila wao wapo wanatucheki na kutufanyia experiment kila siku.

    search google kuhusu alien abductions and sighting of UFO!!

    LOL we are not ALone They are watching us!!!
     
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    kuna kipindi cha tv gorvernor( ex)anaelezea kuhusu hili eneo ni siri hakuna mtu yupo tayari kuzungumzia hata wahusika wenyewe
     
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    wamezungumzia kuwa ni sehemu ya kufanya majaribio ya ndege mpya za kivita na silaha mpya...ila ukweli ulisha vuja kuwa kuna mambo ya kisayari yanaendelea pale. mfano kile ile picha ya bio station ya mars inasemekana kuwa ni wao wana station kule tayari ila hawataki watu wajue sababu russia wakijua tu na wao wanaanza kwenda kuweka yao!!!

    loh!! ni bora kujua kuliko kutojua.
     
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    duu this is too much for me kumbe hatuko wenyewe
     
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    mi hata sijaelewa mnazungumzia nini
     
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    i believe in the area 51 theory but this pix is a hoaxxxxxx.....!
     
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    Somebody has been watching too much of star wars recently.
     
  16. Given Edward

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    Maybe......or NOT.
     
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    Watu hatupendi kujisomea na kuangalia ile misemo ya kiswahili kuwa lisemwalo lipo kama halipo linakuja
     
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    hahahaaaa... UFO myth is hard to die...bah!
     
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    DO ALIENS REALLY EXIST??! Evidence please.
     
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    evidence? They will give you evidence? Kidding?
     
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    Area 51 was used to film the Apollo missions videos as to beat the USSR in the space race(Space Race - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) at that time (1950's) these hoaxes about aliens were put forward to the public so as to justify the cost incurred by NASA in space missions. Believing alien stories and UFO sightings is the same as believing alchemistry, geocentric theory, life in Mars and Venus. If you check the Drake equation (Drake equation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) there are a lot of planets out there but you can't be sure that they contain intelligent life, because to have intelligent life the planet should be in a habitable zone(Habitable zone - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia). For example the planet Gliese_581 (Gliese 581 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) which might support life like earth but it is 194 Trilioni km from us, by this distance if you use a space ship travelling at 50km/s you will use 120,000 years to reach there. So we can't be sure that them aliens have got a new technology to travel within a reasonable time ( you can check this Wormhole - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia). And also the saucer shape of the aliens ship defies physics laws as to be used for extraterrestrial travel.
     
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    go to fztvseries.com documentaries search for aliens encounters kuna documentaries kibao from respected sources like the history channel and discovery zidownload uziangalie then u be your own judge if they exist or not
     
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    umesahau kumwambia Watch at your own risk...
     
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    NIMEKUWA NIKIFATILIA AREA 51 FOR YEARS NOW,(nazani you can see nime-assign kama my location kwenye profile yangu hapo)
    KUMEKUWA NA CONSIPIRANCIES NYINGI SANA JUU YA AREA 51,NIMEJARIBU KUFATILIA DOCUMENTARY ZA KINA JESSE VENTURA,KUSOMA HABARI ZA ALLIENS,NA MAMBO MENGI SANA KUHUSU AREA 51,
    Kiufupi ni kwamba hiz allien crafts zipo na na USA wanazidi kuzitengeza na kuzifanyia research
     
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    Unseen files reveal UFO encounters Secret files released today reveal dozens of reported sightings of UFOs over England, including lights which appeared over Glastonbury Festival in 2003.
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    The files compiled by the Ministry of Defence (MoD) hold eye-witness accounts by concerned members of the public reporting mysterious objects such as ‘flying saucers’ and ‘worm-shaped lights’ between 1985 and 2007. UFO-related documents, including photographs, drawings and letters were compiled in a 9,000 page-thick file of evidence. However, though such evidence existed, MoD admitted that lack of funds and higher priorities prevented them from pursuing thousands of UFO claims further- eventually leading to the closure of the UFO desk at the MoD ten years ago. Talking about the newly-released documents, UFO author Dr David Clarke said: “Many people continue to believe the governments of the world know the truth about UFOs and are concealing the fact that we are not alone in the universe.

    But I believe the truth is in these files. The files suggest that the UK government knows as much as we do about alien visitors and has no evidence to suggest we have ever been visited, despite the interest it has taken in sightings over the years. This is the truth, but will people believe it?”
    Here are some of the top unexplained sightings from files released by the National Archives.

    Glastonbury, 2003
    A document from 2003 contains sighting reports describing mysterious lights seen moving 300ft above the Pyramid Stage at the Glastonbury Festival on 28 June.

    In an email sent to the MoD, the festivalgoer who witnessed the lights first-hand wrote: “They were orange in colour and moved as a group, the lights appeared to be moving in a small circular motion.”

    East Dulwich, London, 2003 In the oddest case recorded, two women originally worried about a ‘potential terrorist attack’ in East Dulwich after witnessing ‘worm-shaped’ lights wriggling in the sky above their neighbourhood contacted the police. According to a testimony found in the unclassified files, police constables arrived with two men dressed in space suits and dark glasses referring to themselves as Mork and Mindy and told one of the women not to look at the object because of possible radiation and carried a transmitter which kept clicking.

    The two women were also asked not to talk to anyone in case of panic and offered to wash their eyes with a solution. The occurrence was reported to the MoD the next day and the pair subsequently complained to police that they had not been taken seriously.

    Retford, Nottinghamshire, 2004 Intelligence defence experts were called to examine the photo below of a ‘flying saucer’ taken outside Retford town hall in Nottinghamshire. Photographer Alex Birch didn’t notice anything suspicious at the time of the snap, but having ruled out aircraft and lens flares, he contacted the MoD to investigate the image. But experts from the Defence Geographic and Imagery Intelligence Agency (DGIA) could not reach any “definitive conclusions” on the contents of the picture. Spooky.
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    Belgium, 1990 Correspondence between the MoD and the Belgian Embassy describes an incident in March that year where two F-16s were scrambled to investigate reported UFOs appearing on NATO radars. Following the scramble, no hostile or aggressive activities were said to be registered. A detailed account by a senior official from the Belgian Air force was recorded in the files. However, the incident still remains unresolved.

    Lakenheath, Suffolk, 1956 In a similar incident, retired RAF Fighter Controller Freddie Wimbledon publicly described his role in a famous UFO incident involving the United States Air Force (USAF) base at RAF Lakenheath, in August 1956. In an account published by the RAF Radar Museum newsletter, Wimbledon said he was on duty at RAF Neatishead in Norfolk when the USAF reported a UFO on their airfield radars at Lakenheath.

    He recalled that the acitivity has been clearly seen on a radar and by observers on the ground. The RAF scrambled a Venom interceptor, controlled by Wimbledon’s radars to pursue the object which apparently ended up latching itself onto the plane. According to the files, a second Venom was then scrambled but it never got within 20 miles before the target sped off climbing at terrific speed. Wimbledon later revealed that all personnel involved in the incident were quizzed by HQ Fighter Command who stressed “absolute secrecy”.
    source:yahoo.co.uk
     
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    Hapo unazidi kunichanganya na ninatilia mashaka kuwa ufuatiliaji wako huenda ukawa wa kishabiki zaidi kuliko wa kiutafiti na uchunguzi!!! kwa hiyo hizo allien crafts kumbe zinatengezwa na wamarekani? nilidhani zinatengenezwa na alliens bana!
     
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    -allien craft zipo-na kuna kuna watu wameshaclaim kuwa wamekutana nazo-inawezekana zikawa zimetengenezwa na hao alliens or usa,
     
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    Hizi alien craft zina muda gani?
     
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    bas kama zmetengeneZwa na usa zciitwe alien crafts bali man crafts.
     
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    It seems hakuna anayejua ukweli haswa.
     

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