Given Edward
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[SIZE=+4]Did we land on the moon?[/SIZE]
I can remember the night of July 20th 1969 sitting in front of my television in the early hours of the morning watching a grainy black and white image of Neil Armstrong climbing carefully down the ladder of the Lunar Module and stepping out onto the surface of the Moon, the first man to have done so. It was a magical, awe inspiring moment that I shall never forget. A man was walking on the Moon, 240,000 miles away, and I was watching it happen, live, on the TV that sat in the corner of my living room! Amazing! "That's one small step for (a) man, one giant leap for mankind". It certainly was. I felt privileged to be able to witness such a remarkable moment in history.
For a brief history of spaceflight leading up to the moon landings and schematics of the Apollo and Saturn V spacecraft see The journey to the Moon
There are however, some people questioning if that event actually took place. They are basing this on what they perceive as some discrepancies in some of the photographs from among the thousands that were taken by the Apollo astronauts, and for various other assorted reasons. They believe that the Moon landings were mocked up in a film studio and that the Apollo crews never left low earth orbit. I honestly think that this is so sad, the greatest technological achievement yet by the human race and these people don't believe it happened. Even sadder, they do not possess the understanding to realise that they are completely wrong and that their arguments are incredibly foolish, to put it mildly.
All the claims that it was a hoax are based on errors and ignorance.
The most surprising thing to me about this ridiculous claim that it was a hoax, is that some people actually manage to believe it was! How do they manage it? If it really was a hoax do you not think that the Russians at least would have been able to expose it? After all, the ONLY reason for going to the Moon was to beat the Russians to it, yet they have never once even hinted at the possibility that it was a hoax, they know it was real! That is why they gave up their own attempt after they ran into problems with their booster, it kept exploding on take off! There was no point in them continuing once they realised the Americans had beaten them to it.Nobody in the world had more reason to want to prove it was a hoax than the Russians. The Russians are not daft, they were closely monitoring the Americans every inch of the way, and were able to determine for a fact that the Americans did actually land on the Moon, much to their annoyance. If the Russians say the Americans landed on the Moon, and they do, then the Americans landed on the Moon. It's that simple.
Why do some people believe it was a hoax?
There are however, some people (not many) who do believe it was a hoax, but then some people are prepared to believe just about anything! Maybe it's because they saw the TV program "Conspiracy Theory: Did We Land on the Moon?" It was shown In the States in February 2001 and later here in the UK. The programme points out 'errors' in the photographs, that there are no stars visible, that the flag waves in the 'breeze', and a host of other silly stuff. This joke of a show was so idiotic it is beyond understanding how it could fool anyone. It was in fact so bad that the Network, FOX, distanced themselves from the broadcast with a disclaimer admitting that "The theories expressed [in the show] are not the only possible interpretation." That's just another way of saying "This is a heap of manure even by our standards". For a full scientific explanation of every so called 'error' claimed by the programme, visit the following excellent site.Bad Astronomy: Bad TV.
Another reason why people may believe it was a hoax may be due to the efforts of a small number of people who make a living by selling books and videos 'exposing the hoax'. The trouble these people run into is that because it was not a hoax, they have to work very hard to make it seem, however tenuously, that it was. The consequence of this is that the claims they make are both idiotic and farcical in their desperate attempts to get you to part with your cash.
Before you are fooled into parting with your hard earned cash, check out my pages on two of the best known purveyors of unmitigated nonsense-for-cash-in the moon hoax business Bart Sibrel and Bill Kaysing Check out both of my pages for details of why the material they want you to buy is nothing but pure garbage.
These two jokers work VERY hard to get you to part with your cash, promising all sorts of 'proof'. It is only after you have parted with your cash and seen the 'proof' that you realise, too late of course, you have been well and truly done. Those of you that have already purchased their nonsense will know what I mean. If however you have seen their videos or read their books and still believe it was a hoax, then you have mistakenly stumbled onto the wrong site, this one is for thinking people who have a fully functioning brain. Goodbye, thank you for calling.
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Let's now move on to explain why all the reasons people believe it was a hoax are wrong. You do not need to be a rocket scientist to see the obvious errors in their arguments. In most cases common sense is all you need. But first, let's get something out of the way.
[SIZE=+1]Do I think hoax believers are stupid?[/SIZE]
I am sometimes accused of treating hoax believers as if they are stupid. Let me say this here and now and clearly. I do NOT consider that ALL hoax believers are stupid, okay? Some, possibly, may be quite normal sensible people that have just got the facts wrong - they have been misinformed and do not happen to posses the knowledge or wit to realise it. This is perfectly understandable given the complex knowledge of physics sometimes required to understand what is really going on. Many hoax believers are ignorant of the facts, which is a different matter entirely to being stupid. However, when given the facts, a sensible person will see the logic of it, whatever the subject, and will either have the sense to accept the obvious, or perhaps have the wit to ask another more penetrating follow-up question in order to clarify a point. Fair enough. When the explanation then makes perfect sense and can no longer be challenged, when the evidence presented simply cannot be denied, the sensible person is left with no alternative but to accept that they were wrong.
If however, in this situation, they still insist that they are right, even in the face of incontrovertible evidence, then they shift from a position of being ignorant - they are no longer unaware of the facts - to a position of being stupid. I'm sorry if this offends but there is no other word for it. The dictionary says 'stupid - deficient or dull in understanding: showing lack of reason or judgement: foolish, dull, boring'So yes, many of the hoax believers that I deal with, the ones that send me very strange emails indeed, I do consider to be stupid, they perfectly fit the dictionary definition of the word. I do not consider them to be stupid because their questions may sometimes appear to be rather simplistic and show an alarming lack of even basic knowledge (that is often understandable as it depends on the level of education they have received) it is because they deny the answer and choose not to accept the logic of a given fact that is in reality inarguable.
If for example someone tells you that 2 +2 = 5, and you clearly and patiently show them by using four coins that 2+2 = 4, and they still argue that they are right, that you are an idiot, and that they have positive proof that you will be proven wrong, would it be unreasonable to assume that they must be stupid? It is an unfortunate fact of life that there are some people in the world that are undeniably stupid, we have all met them. I realise of course that this causes some people to call me arrogant - and many other highly descriptive phrases - so be it. If being unafraid to tell the truth, if knowing your subject well, if carrying out extensive independent research, if being able to reply to a question using facts and logic, all make a person 'arrogant', then fine, I am happy to accept - that by that definition - I am arrogant. I would rather be arrogant than stupid. But I repeat again, not all hoax believers are stupid - some are just ignorant of the facts but do have an open mind - but some hoax believers are undeniably incredibly stupid.
For an example of the many questions I receive from hoax believers see Are Moon Hoax believers stupid?
For a very brief explanation of the top twenty points raised by hoax believers Moon Hoax Believer's FAQ's
If you have had a bad day and just want a bit of a LAUGH, here it is. The REAL answers to Moon Hoax Believers FAQ's
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Okay, lets get on with the hoax believer's arguments for why it was all a hoax:
[SIZE=+2]1) The Apollo crews never left near earth orbit.[/SIZE]
This is a ridiculousclaim, that they never left near earth orbit, because if that had being the case, how do you explain the rather obvious fact that not one person noticed that the Apollo craft were still continuously orbiting the Earth, for periods ranging from 8 to 12 days, when they should have been orbiting the Moon? They would have been very easily visible to the naked eye, just as satellites are today every hour of the night. The Apollo craft were, by many magnitudes, the brightest and largest artificial objects orbiting the Earth, and would have been impossible to miss as only the Moon and Venus were brighter. Furthermore, they would have been moving so fast that they would have transited the night sky in about three minutes. Bright, fast-moving objects in the sky tend to attract lots of attention.
Do you honestly think that the entire world's radar systems, and visual astronomical observatories, let alone individuals, would have failed to notice them if they had stayed in Earth orbit? This would apply to all the manned missions that entered lunar orbit, Apollo 8 and 10 to 17, a total of NINE missions. And no one in the entire world noticed, not even once, they they didn't really leave Earth orbit? To suggest such a thing is ludicrous! No one would have been more over the Moon (sorry) to expose any American Moon hoax than the Russians, but they couldn't, they saw them leave Earth orbit, and tracked them all the way to the moon.
This argument alone should provide sufficient evidence to show that the Apollo crews did actually leave near earth orbit, but this will not be enough for the Moon hoax believers, they love a good conspiracy theory.
So here is the nail in the coffin!
This conspiracy is a conspiracy Jim McDade 4/1/2001. Extract from the Birmingham News.
Apollo 11 left for the moon on July 16, 1969. The crew consisted of Neil Armstrong, Michael Collins and Buzz Aldrin. Every single moment of the Apollo voyage was monitored by an international cadre of journalists, broadcasters, commentators, investigators, spies (from US "allies" as well as enemies) amateur and professional astronomers, amateur and professional radio engineers, television viewers and fifteen year-old me. Thousands stood outside in Hawaii to directly witness the third stage of the Saturn V moon rocket execute the long burn to raise its velocity from earth orbital speed to trans-lunar speed. Amateurs and professionals alike took time-lapse photos of the craft as it sped along the background of stars in the exact places where it was predicted to be by independent calculations. Bruno Stanek, a brilliant Swiss mathematician and space observer furnished me with the following eyewitness account:
"In 1969/70, when I was an instructor at the Swiss Institute of Technology (pre-pre-PC era...), I solved the boundary value three body problem for my own personal enjoyment on our CDC 1604: fitting time of departure and arrival, orbital height and inclination of the respective lunar/earth parking orbits and approximate nodes (actually these were precisely determined mathematically because I did not get them from the usual NASA publications). Having x,y,z in five minute intervals, I transformed those to equatorial as well as topocentric astronomical coordinates and supplied the data to well equipped amateur astronomers. I remember mentioning my "project" during one of my live Apollo broadcasts on Swiss National TV and two promising responses reached me. One was a Mr. Seiler in neighboring Bavaria/Germany near Munich who took astro photographs through a 0.5-meter-telescope. He was successful: his long exposure not only showed the LM-CSM-combination at the right location - even the velocity vector proved itself by the right direction of the trace of the moving spacecraft on his film!"
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[SIZE=+2]2) Photographic 'evidence'[/SIZE].
Let's just take a look at some photographs that demonstrate how these errors arise. I cannot include them all, otherwise this page would take a week to load, but these silly claims come up time after time.
[SIZE=+1]a) [/SIZE][SIZE=+2]NASA forgot to paint the stars in the sky.[/SIZE]
This is a classic, first started by Bill Kaysing 30 years ago. It's my all time favourite. It is very popular with the hoax believers, but I can't understand why though, it's so easy to prove for yourself. I think it tells us something very important about the way they think.
Look mum! No stars, NASA forgot to paint them in!
Buzz Aldrin on the lunar surface, 1969
The real reason is that when contrasted with the brightness of the astronauts and the lunar surface, the stars are just too dim to register on the photographic emulsion of the camera film. If the camera shutter were held open long enough for the stars to register, everything else would be over-exposed into a white featureless glare. You cannot have both visible on the one photograph, so the camera was set for the correct exposure for Buzz Aldrin and the lunar surface, not the stars. When standing on the lunar surface the astronauts could not visually observe the stars in the dark sky, because of the surface glare, they could only see them when standing in shadow. By the same token, if we take a photograph outdoors at night from a brightly illuminated surface, our photograph also would not show any stars in the sky.
It is not enough that the lunar sky is very dark, in order to see the stars you have to BE in a dark area yourself, and your camera. In 1967 Surveyor probes soft landed on the Moon and sent back amazing pictures of the surface. An image of the stars was required in order to learn the precise orientation of the probes. It took a three minute exposure before the stars became visible. The cameras used by the astronauts typically took images using an exposure time of 250th of a second. Not surprising is it that the stars did not register in the photos!
If it is so easy for hoax believers to spot this 'error' - and let's face it, to forget to put the stars in would have been an incredibly stupid mistake to make - do you honestly believe that not one single person involved in the 'hoax' wouldn't have noticed it either? Or is it just that hoax believers are all just so much smarter then all of them?
I have been 'informed' (now that's a joke) by hoax believers that NASA were unable to reproduce the stars in their correct positions as seen from the moon, (being much too complicated a task for stupid NASA to calculate) so rather than get it wrong and risk being found out decided to leave them out. Ho ho ho hohoho! This argument is soooo ignorant of the facts! The stars are much too far away for any difference to be visible over the tiny distance of 250,000 miles from the earth to the moon. Take a photograph of the stars from earth, then six months later take another photograph. In this time span the earth will have shifted the maximum distance from one side of its orbit around the sun to the other, around 186,000,000 miles. Only a couple of the very nearest stars will be seen to have shifted against the background stars (this apparent shift is due to parallax) and even then, the shift is very small and is only perceptible by comparing the two photos very carefully. (Parallax is the most accurate means available for measuring the distance to the stars, but is limited to those few stars that are very close to us). So, Nasa would only need to put up background photos of the stars as photographed from earth because that is exactly how the stars would look from the moon as well. This is known as research, and comes in very handy when attempting to argue a point.
Anyway, no need to take my word for it is there, I could be part of the conspiracy according to your way of thinking. (Wish I was, I would be getting paid for this.) Just pop outside one night and try to photograph the stars with a brightly illuminated person in the foreground. Try it, its easy enough to prove without the need of a massive conspiracy theory, just you and a camera is all that is required.
Case closed.
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[SIZE=+4]Did we land on the moon?[/SIZE]
I can remember the night of July 20th 1969 sitting in front of my television in the early hours of the morning watching a grainy black and white image of Neil Armstrong climbing carefully down the ladder of the Lunar Module and stepping out onto the surface of the Moon, the first man to have done so. It was a magical, awe inspiring moment that I shall never forget. A man was walking on the Moon, 240,000 miles away, and I was watching it happen, live, on the TV that sat in the corner of my living room! Amazing! "That's one small step for (a) man, one giant leap for mankind". It certainly was. I felt privileged to be able to witness such a remarkable moment in history.
For a brief history of spaceflight leading up to the moon landings and schematics of the Apollo and Saturn V spacecraft see The journey to the Moon
There are however, some people questioning if that event actually took place. They are basing this on what they perceive as some discrepancies in some of the photographs from among the thousands that were taken by the Apollo astronauts, and for various other assorted reasons. They believe that the Moon landings were mocked up in a film studio and that the Apollo crews never left low earth orbit. I honestly think that this is so sad, the greatest technological achievement yet by the human race and these people don't believe it happened. Even sadder, they do not possess the understanding to realise that they are completely wrong and that their arguments are incredibly foolish, to put it mildly.
All the claims that it was a hoax are based on errors and ignorance.
The most surprising thing to me about this ridiculous claim that it was a hoax, is that some people actually manage to believe it was! How do they manage it? If it really was a hoax do you not think that the Russians at least would have been able to expose it? After all, the ONLY reason for going to the Moon was to beat the Russians to it, yet they have never once even hinted at the possibility that it was a hoax, they know it was real! That is why they gave up their own attempt after they ran into problems with their booster, it kept exploding on take off! There was no point in them continuing once they realised the Americans had beaten them to it.Nobody in the world had more reason to want to prove it was a hoax than the Russians. The Russians are not daft, they were closely monitoring the Americans every inch of the way, and were able to determine for a fact that the Americans did actually land on the Moon, much to their annoyance. If the Russians say the Americans landed on the Moon, and they do, then the Americans landed on the Moon. It's that simple.
Why do some people believe it was a hoax?
There are however, some people (not many) who do believe it was a hoax, but then some people are prepared to believe just about anything! Maybe it's because they saw the TV program "Conspiracy Theory: Did We Land on the Moon?" It was shown In the States in February 2001 and later here in the UK. The programme points out 'errors' in the photographs, that there are no stars visible, that the flag waves in the 'breeze', and a host of other silly stuff. This joke of a show was so idiotic it is beyond understanding how it could fool anyone. It was in fact so bad that the Network, FOX, distanced themselves from the broadcast with a disclaimer admitting that "The theories expressed [in the show] are not the only possible interpretation." That's just another way of saying "This is a heap of manure even by our standards". For a full scientific explanation of every so called 'error' claimed by the programme, visit the following excellent site.Bad Astronomy: Bad TV.
Another reason why people may believe it was a hoax may be due to the efforts of a small number of people who make a living by selling books and videos 'exposing the hoax'. The trouble these people run into is that because it was not a hoax, they have to work very hard to make it seem, however tenuously, that it was. The consequence of this is that the claims they make are both idiotic and farcical in their desperate attempts to get you to part with your cash.
Before you are fooled into parting with your hard earned cash, check out my pages on two of the best known purveyors of unmitigated nonsense-for-cash-in the moon hoax business Bart Sibrel and Bill Kaysing Check out both of my pages for details of why the material they want you to buy is nothing but pure garbage.
These two jokers work VERY hard to get you to part with your cash, promising all sorts of 'proof'. It is only after you have parted with your cash and seen the 'proof' that you realise, too late of course, you have been well and truly done. Those of you that have already purchased their nonsense will know what I mean. If however you have seen their videos or read their books and still believe it was a hoax, then you have mistakenly stumbled onto the wrong site, this one is for thinking people who have a fully functioning brain. Goodbye, thank you for calling.
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Let's now move on to explain why all the reasons people believe it was a hoax are wrong. You do not need to be a rocket scientist to see the obvious errors in their arguments. In most cases common sense is all you need. But first, let's get something out of the way.
[SIZE=+1]Do I think hoax believers are stupid?[/SIZE]
I am sometimes accused of treating hoax believers as if they are stupid. Let me say this here and now and clearly. I do NOT consider that ALL hoax believers are stupid, okay? Some, possibly, may be quite normal sensible people that have just got the facts wrong - they have been misinformed and do not happen to posses the knowledge or wit to realise it. This is perfectly understandable given the complex knowledge of physics sometimes required to understand what is really going on. Many hoax believers are ignorant of the facts, which is a different matter entirely to being stupid. However, when given the facts, a sensible person will see the logic of it, whatever the subject, and will either have the sense to accept the obvious, or perhaps have the wit to ask another more penetrating follow-up question in order to clarify a point. Fair enough. When the explanation then makes perfect sense and can no longer be challenged, when the evidence presented simply cannot be denied, the sensible person is left with no alternative but to accept that they were wrong.
If however, in this situation, they still insist that they are right, even in the face of incontrovertible evidence, then they shift from a position of being ignorant - they are no longer unaware of the facts - to a position of being stupid. I'm sorry if this offends but there is no other word for it. The dictionary says 'stupid - deficient or dull in understanding: showing lack of reason or judgement: foolish, dull, boring'So yes, many of the hoax believers that I deal with, the ones that send me very strange emails indeed, I do consider to be stupid, they perfectly fit the dictionary definition of the word. I do not consider them to be stupid because their questions may sometimes appear to be rather simplistic and show an alarming lack of even basic knowledge (that is often understandable as it depends on the level of education they have received) it is because they deny the answer and choose not to accept the logic of a given fact that is in reality inarguable.
If for example someone tells you that 2 +2 = 5, and you clearly and patiently show them by using four coins that 2+2 = 4, and they still argue that they are right, that you are an idiot, and that they have positive proof that you will be proven wrong, would it be unreasonable to assume that they must be stupid? It is an unfortunate fact of life that there are some people in the world that are undeniably stupid, we have all met them. I realise of course that this causes some people to call me arrogant - and many other highly descriptive phrases - so be it. If being unafraid to tell the truth, if knowing your subject well, if carrying out extensive independent research, if being able to reply to a question using facts and logic, all make a person 'arrogant', then fine, I am happy to accept - that by that definition - I am arrogant. I would rather be arrogant than stupid. But I repeat again, not all hoax believers are stupid - some are just ignorant of the facts but do have an open mind - but some hoax believers are undeniably incredibly stupid.
For an example of the many questions I receive from hoax believers see Are Moon Hoax believers stupid?
For a very brief explanation of the top twenty points raised by hoax believers Moon Hoax Believer's FAQ's
If you have had a bad day and just want a bit of a LAUGH, here it is. The REAL answers to Moon Hoax Believers FAQ's
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Okay, lets get on with the hoax believer's arguments for why it was all a hoax:
[SIZE=+2]1) The Apollo crews never left near earth orbit.[/SIZE]
This is a ridiculousclaim, that they never left near earth orbit, because if that had being the case, how do you explain the rather obvious fact that not one person noticed that the Apollo craft were still continuously orbiting the Earth, for periods ranging from 8 to 12 days, when they should have been orbiting the Moon? They would have been very easily visible to the naked eye, just as satellites are today every hour of the night. The Apollo craft were, by many magnitudes, the brightest and largest artificial objects orbiting the Earth, and would have been impossible to miss as only the Moon and Venus were brighter. Furthermore, they would have been moving so fast that they would have transited the night sky in about three minutes. Bright, fast-moving objects in the sky tend to attract lots of attention.
Do you honestly think that the entire world's radar systems, and visual astronomical observatories, let alone individuals, would have failed to notice them if they had stayed in Earth orbit? This would apply to all the manned missions that entered lunar orbit, Apollo 8 and 10 to 17, a total of NINE missions. And no one in the entire world noticed, not even once, they they didn't really leave Earth orbit? To suggest such a thing is ludicrous! No one would have been more over the Moon (sorry) to expose any American Moon hoax than the Russians, but they couldn't, they saw them leave Earth orbit, and tracked them all the way to the moon.
This argument alone should provide sufficient evidence to show that the Apollo crews did actually leave near earth orbit, but this will not be enough for the Moon hoax believers, they love a good conspiracy theory.
So here is the nail in the coffin!
This conspiracy is a conspiracy Jim McDade 4/1/2001. Extract from the Birmingham News.
Apollo 11 left for the moon on July 16, 1969. The crew consisted of Neil Armstrong, Michael Collins and Buzz Aldrin. Every single moment of the Apollo voyage was monitored by an international cadre of journalists, broadcasters, commentators, investigators, spies (from US "allies" as well as enemies) amateur and professional astronomers, amateur and professional radio engineers, television viewers and fifteen year-old me. Thousands stood outside in Hawaii to directly witness the third stage of the Saturn V moon rocket execute the long burn to raise its velocity from earth orbital speed to trans-lunar speed. Amateurs and professionals alike took time-lapse photos of the craft as it sped along the background of stars in the exact places where it was predicted to be by independent calculations. Bruno Stanek, a brilliant Swiss mathematician and space observer furnished me with the following eyewitness account:
"In 1969/70, when I was an instructor at the Swiss Institute of Technology (pre-pre-PC era...), I solved the boundary value three body problem for my own personal enjoyment on our CDC 1604: fitting time of departure and arrival, orbital height and inclination of the respective lunar/earth parking orbits and approximate nodes (actually these were precisely determined mathematically because I did not get them from the usual NASA publications). Having x,y,z in five minute intervals, I transformed those to equatorial as well as topocentric astronomical coordinates and supplied the data to well equipped amateur astronomers. I remember mentioning my "project" during one of my live Apollo broadcasts on Swiss National TV and two promising responses reached me. One was a Mr. Seiler in neighboring Bavaria/Germany near Munich who took astro photographs through a 0.5-meter-telescope. He was successful: his long exposure not only showed the LM-CSM-combination at the right location - even the velocity vector proved itself by the right direction of the trace of the moving spacecraft on his film!"
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[SIZE=+2]2) Photographic 'evidence'[/SIZE].
Let's just take a look at some photographs that demonstrate how these errors arise. I cannot include them all, otherwise this page would take a week to load, but these silly claims come up time after time.
[SIZE=+1]a) [/SIZE][SIZE=+2]NASA forgot to paint the stars in the sky.[/SIZE]
This is a classic, first started by Bill Kaysing 30 years ago. It's my all time favourite. It is very popular with the hoax believers, but I can't understand why though, it's so easy to prove for yourself. I think it tells us something very important about the way they think.
Look mum! No stars, NASA forgot to paint them in!
Buzz Aldrin on the lunar surface, 1969
The real reason is that when contrasted with the brightness of the astronauts and the lunar surface, the stars are just too dim to register on the photographic emulsion of the camera film. If the camera shutter were held open long enough for the stars to register, everything else would be over-exposed into a white featureless glare. You cannot have both visible on the one photograph, so the camera was set for the correct exposure for Buzz Aldrin and the lunar surface, not the stars. When standing on the lunar surface the astronauts could not visually observe the stars in the dark sky, because of the surface glare, they could only see them when standing in shadow. By the same token, if we take a photograph outdoors at night from a brightly illuminated surface, our photograph also would not show any stars in the sky.
It is not enough that the lunar sky is very dark, in order to see the stars you have to BE in a dark area yourself, and your camera. In 1967 Surveyor probes soft landed on the Moon and sent back amazing pictures of the surface. An image of the stars was required in order to learn the precise orientation of the probes. It took a three minute exposure before the stars became visible. The cameras used by the astronauts typically took images using an exposure time of 250th of a second. Not surprising is it that the stars did not register in the photos!
If it is so easy for hoax believers to spot this 'error' - and let's face it, to forget to put the stars in would have been an incredibly stupid mistake to make - do you honestly believe that not one single person involved in the 'hoax' wouldn't have noticed it either? Or is it just that hoax believers are all just so much smarter then all of them?
I have been 'informed' (now that's a joke) by hoax believers that NASA were unable to reproduce the stars in their correct positions as seen from the moon, (being much too complicated a task for stupid NASA to calculate) so rather than get it wrong and risk being found out decided to leave them out. Ho ho ho hohoho! This argument is soooo ignorant of the facts! The stars are much too far away for any difference to be visible over the tiny distance of 250,000 miles from the earth to the moon. Take a photograph of the stars from earth, then six months later take another photograph. In this time span the earth will have shifted the maximum distance from one side of its orbit around the sun to the other, around 186,000,000 miles. Only a couple of the very nearest stars will be seen to have shifted against the background stars (this apparent shift is due to parallax) and even then, the shift is very small and is only perceptible by comparing the two photos very carefully. (Parallax is the most accurate means available for measuring the distance to the stars, but is limited to those few stars that are very close to us). So, Nasa would only need to put up background photos of the stars as photographed from earth because that is exactly how the stars would look from the moon as well. This is known as research, and comes in very handy when attempting to argue a point.
Anyway, no need to take my word for it is there, I could be part of the conspiracy according to your way of thinking. (Wish I was, I would be getting paid for this.) Just pop outside one night and try to photograph the stars with a brightly illuminated person in the foreground. Try it, its easy enough to prove without the need of a massive conspiracy theory, just you and a camera is all that is required.
Case closed.
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