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Aliyesababisha kifo cha Salome Mbatia akamatwa

Discussion in 'Jukwaa la Siasa' started by Halisi, Oct 26, 2007.

  1. Halisi

    Halisi JF-Expert Member

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    Kamanda wa Polisi, anasema kwamba dereva alitoroka ama kutoroshwa na kwamba polisi hawajui yuko wapi na wanamtafuta??? Nadhani kesho watasema "wamempata" akiwa hajachubuka hata 'nywele'.... Je, atakua ni dereva yule yule aliyekuwamo katika tukio? Je, waliomtorosha (kutoroka) ni kina nani?

    Hilo gari halikua lina overtake gari lolote bali lililifuata gari la mheshimiwa Mbatia....

    Sumaye muda huo alikua amekwisha kupita eneo la ajali, nyuma ya mbatia alikua Zitto na Mathayo David Mathayo.. Zitto alifika enep la tukio takriban dakika tano. Inawezekana kabisa aliona kila kitu wakati ajali inatokea lakini si vyema kwa sasa kwa yeye kuzungumzia tukio hilo humu.

    TUTAFAKARI.....

    OMBI... Kwa wale wenye kumbukumbu ya ajali ya Sokoine kule Morogoro atupe, ikiwa ni pamoja na alipo sasa dereva Dube na mazingira ya ajali ile. Hii itatusaidia kuepuka ajali za VIONGOZI wetu kwa siku za usoni.
    Ajali ya Mhe. Mbatia Sumaye, Zitto chupuchupu
     
  2. Gaijin

    Gaijin JF-Expert Member

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    huyo dereva katorkea baada ya kufikiswa hospitalini au?, au ndio tuseme pale pale hakuumia hata kidogo kiasi cha kuweza kujichanganya na watu wengine na kutojuulikana kama ni dereva wa hilo fuso?
     
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    Mushobozi JF-Expert Member

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    haya makubwa.
     
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    Mwafrika wa Kike JF-Expert Member

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    Nilisema juzi hapa watu wakatoa mimacho!

    subirini mtasikia mengi tu hapa hapa JF
     
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    Newman Member

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    Mungu ni mkuu na mwema sana!!! naamini ataendelea kumlinda mh. Zitto na kila aina ya hila na ubaya unaolengwa kwake!!

    It looks as if he was the target!!
     
  6. Mwanamalundi

    Mwanamalundi JF-Expert Member

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    Acheni conspiracy theories hapa. Hiyo ajali, imetokea, imetokea. Huyo mbatia siku yake ndio ilikuwa imefika. Wote tutakufa, na hatujui tutakufa kwa jinsi gani na tutakutana wapi na ziraeli.

    Kwani watanzania wangapi wanakufa kila siku kwa ajali za barabarani?? Kwani huyo marehemu ana tofauti gani na za kibanadamu na mwanakijiji wa chole samvula???
     
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    Mwanamalundi JF-Expert Member

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    Why viongozi alone?? What about the general public??? This is utterly non-sense.
     
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    Mwafrika wa Kike JF-Expert Member

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    Yes Mwanamalundi,

    Pamoja na wananchi wengi wa kitanzania.
     
  9. Mwanamalundi

    Mwanamalundi JF-Expert Member

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    Acheni kuzunguka zunguka. Mnataka kusema huyo dereva alikuwa amepewa task ya kuondoa roho ya zitto?? Mnaanza kuhukumu hata uchunguzi haujafanyika. Mmoja hapo juu anasema eti hilo fusso lilifuata moja kwa moja gari la marehemu. Naomba kumuuliza, ajali huwa zinatokea vipi?? is it not the case kwamba magari inabidi yakutane uso kwa uso ili ajali iweze kutokea??? Sasa ajali ingetokeaje kama kila dereva angeendelea kubaki kwenye lane yake???
     
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    Mwafrika wa Kike JF-Expert Member

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    Hii ni assassination attempt that went wrong, I said it, yes I said it!
     
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    Ledwin JF-Expert Member

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    ajali ni nyingi sana Tanzania,wote tunatakiwa tuwe makini,mfano wenye malori/mabasi makubwa ,Taxi ,Ajirini madreva wenye uzoefu na ikiwezekana muwape mafunzo,Sisi kama binadamu tunatakiwa tujali utu na sio faida mbele.
    Kwa abiria inabidi tuwe na uwezo wa kuwakatalia madreva tunawaowatilia wasiwasi na umakini wao kwenye barabara.wote tukisaidiana pamoja na viongozi wetu,tunaweza kupunguza ajali hizi barabarani.
     
  12. Mwanamalundi

    Mwanamalundi JF-Expert Member

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    Mwafrika huwezi kusema hii ni assasination attempt. Hilo nakupinga kwa sababu hatuna taarifa kamili za mazingira ya ajali yenyewe. Inawezekana kulikuwa na matatizo katika steering ya fusso, etc.Kama wanataka ku-ondoa roho ya zitto sio lazima wamsubiri barabarani. Nadhani sasa tunakwenda mbali sana.
     
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    YournameisMINE JF-Expert Member

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    C'mon man, are you serious? Nashindwa kuamini ulicho andika, mwacheni huyu mama marehemu angalau azikwe kwanza!!. Ulichoandika hapo juu sound like a suicide mission, kitu ambacho kwa mswahili hakipo and therefore your theory is not only wrong but untimely,corrupt and far fetched.....GADEMU.
     
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    Mwafrika wa Kike JF-Expert Member

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    Asante mwanamalundi,

    No wonder watu wengine wameniita mpuuzi na mjinga huku wengine wakishauri nikapimwe akili. Unachosema ni kweli na ninashawishika kukubaliana nawewe.

    Tatizo ni kuwa nimeishi America long enough na kusoma vitabu vya kutosha kuonesha kuwa mambo mengi duniani hayatokei kwa bahati mbaya.

    Kuna watu walisema hapa kuwa waendeshaji wa mabwawa ya maji mtera na kidatu walifungulia maji makusudi ili kuwe na energy crisis in Tanzania na baadae mikataba bomu isainiwe kwa haraka na mimi nikabisha sana.

    Baada ya kusoma hii mikataba ya Kiwira, IPTL, Richmonduli, Songas, etc na kisha kucompare kilichotokea America na middle east miaka ya 79-80, Sina sababu kabisa ya kutosikiliza theories zote zinazosemwa kuhusu matukio.

    I might be wrong ( na sitaumia nikitukanwa kwa hili) lakini hii ajali iko so suspicious to me!
     
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    Shakazulu JF-Expert Member

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    Sijui ni kwanini watu wanapenda sana kukuza na kuandika mambo ambayo hayapo.

    Labda wangetaka tuamini kuwa Zito ndio alikuwa target basi wangetuambia how they think the whole plan was executed and what went wrong.

    From my simple understanding and from what the madia has reported hii inaonekana ni ajali ya kawaida tu ambayo ingeweza kumpata mtu yoyote.

    Kama Zito alikuwa target basi dereva wa lori lazima alijua Zito anatumia gari gani. Unless gari lake na la Marehemu yalikuwa sawa then jiulize kwanini alikosea na kuligonga gari la Marehemu?

    Pili mwandishi anataka tuamini kuwa Marehemu, Zito, Sumaye na Mathayo walikuwa wanaongozana barabarani kiasi kwamba kama dereva wa lori angeikosa gari ya Marehemu basi angeligonga gari la Zito. Zito mwenyewe kasema kuwa alifika sehemu ya tukio baada ya dakika tano hivi. Kwa wale wenye uzoefu wa kusafiri safari ndefu, dakika tano kwa gari linaloenda Km 80 kwa saa ni sawasawa na umbali wa Km 6 hivi. Sasa kwa umbali huo utaona kuwa hata kama angeikosa gari ya Marehemu basi angeweza kuanguka mwenyewe tu unless mwandishi anataka tuamini kuwa hiyo error kama isingetokea kwa Marehemu basi ingetokea kwa Zito.

    Pia mwandishi anakuwa na mashaka juu ya maelezo ya polisi kuwa dereve wa lori alitoroka au "kutoroshwa" baada ya ajali. Kwa kumbukumbu zangu mara nyingi madereva wasababishapo ajali hukimbia kuhofia maisha yao na wengine wakiogopa kushitakiwa.

    Mimi naona hii ilikuwa ni ajali ya kawaida tu kama ajali nyingine.
     
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    Mwafrika wa Kike JF-Expert Member

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    ha ha ha shakazulu,

    usijekosa usingizi bure mwenzangu. Hizi ndizo huitwa conspiracy theories (take emphasis on conspiracy). Bado haijathibitisha na labda haitakuja kuthibitishwa.

    mwandishi anadhani dereva alitoroshwa na amesema hivyo, ni vizuri pia nawe umedhani kuwa dereva alitoroka and thats fine.

    Mimi naona kuna kitu fishy hapa na nimekubaliana na mwandishi huyu at least for now. Nimekubali kuitwa mjinga kwenye hili
     
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    Idimi JF-Expert Member

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    Kwa mazingira ya ajali hii, ni vigumu kusema moja kwa moja kuwa kuna mtu alilengwa kutolewa uhai, tuache polisi wafanye kazi yao na watupatie matokeo ya uchunguzi.
     
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    Gaijin JF-Expert Member

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    error ya dakika tano ni kubwa sana kwa kusema alitaka kudhuriwa mtu mwengine .........

    au labda huyo alotumwa alikuwa si mtaalamu basi! lol .....kazi hakuiweza (jk)
     
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    Masatu JF-Expert Member

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    Here we go again... doing what we are best in doing.. uzushi!
     
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    Mwafrika wa Kike JF-Expert Member

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    Hata mie nimeuliza hilo swali.
    Hii kwangu ni fishy big tyme
     
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