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Agano Jipya

Discussion in 'Great Thinkers' started by Rev. Kishoka, Jan 20, 2008.

  1. Rev. Kishoka

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    Dear Lord,

    I have tried to restrain myself from exploding and advocate milltancy for a while, but Lord, forgive thy servant for I am to go postal!

    Lord, the absurdity of the comments above tells me that we have people in our community and society as whole who see no evil in their wrong doings.

    Lord, JF is collection of minds and souls of Tanzanians all over the world. These are the people like me who could opt to use a remote control with their relationship with motherland by keeping silent enjoying cheese, chocolate and champaigne or they could be activists voicing concerns for the sake of our nation.

    Lord, just like how you did it in old times with Joshua, David or Solomon, allow thy servant to advocate for civil uprising that will bring true revolution to rescue Mtanzania from being deprived of his freedom and natural resources that you have granted us O Lord the day we were concieved.

    Lord, I announce, "Death to Mafisadi" "Death to Wahujumu" "Death to Wasaliti". Please forgive me for seeking blood and take life to correct the wrongs and ills in our society created and managed with people like the quoted fellow.

    If civil means to make right what has been done wrong are going to fail, I will not heed to your Son and our Savior Jesus Christ to turn the other cheek to the enemy, to forgive him on seventieth time or even love my enemy. For he, my enemy has vowed to destroy me and my offspring and I shall stand tall with my clan to fight oppression. Our march to Calvary has started and no one will take our pride and freedom away.

    In thy hands, I rest my case and seek thy blessings,strength, courage, peace, wisdom and happiness. As for patience, that was long lost away.

    As in swahili we would say, Nimechoka kungojea.

    Amen
     
  2. Rev. Kishoka

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    Pumping up my fist like Sarafina, listening to Zombie by Fela after my prayer above, I have made pact with myslef for a new convenant to rescue Tanzania from the hands of killers who are lyinching us on day light.

    As you most of you have seen I started the topic for Focus 2010 and Chadema must Reform as to create a dialogue of great minds (both for and opposing) in searching for means and way to bring true changes for our country and not dwelling on costmetic appearance.

    I am calling for all those who are ready to join me in my journey to save our nation to be active participants of several innitiatives that I will be working on to empower Tanzanians (some of you we have already spoke about this).

    Yes, my emotions on my prayer above are true, my anger is deeper than Lake Tanganyika, I am tired to be played like a yo-yo or some toy, while I have all the blessings from the Mighty God.

    Some of innitiatives that I would like to work on are New Constitution for URT, Muungano, revisiting Azimio la Arusha,Freedom of press, revisiting MKUKUTA and VISION 2025 and Volunteerism.

    The priority is on Katiba. For those who will be interested, please send me a PM and we will pick it up from there. The door is open for serious folks of all minds, whether is CCM, Chadema, CUF or Independents.

    This project will be for the benefit of Mtanzania and taifa and not tied to one political party.

    This is my new convenant in fighting Ujinga, Maradhi na Umasikini. Ni agano jipya la kumrudishia kila Mtanzania matumaini kuwa hatujakwama Jangwani tukisubiri Mana kutoka mbinguni.

    Sitaacha mapambano dhidi ya Ufisadi, Uhujumu, Usaliti au Ubadhirifu wa mali na hazina ya Taifa.

    Aluta Continua!
     
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    Kishoka huyo jamaa ni kawaida yake,naona anatafuta attention tuu...pitia post zake za nyuma utajua unajibu mtu wa namna gani,usipteze muda wako
     
  4. Mzee Mwanakijiji

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    Mchungaji... niko tayari kukuunga mkono..
     
  5. Azimio Jipya

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    Hi Rev! We r keeping it up. We hav thousands coming behind us.. We go 100% from o%..1% etc etc! We have to have the starting point!!
    Nafikiri analysis ya koba ni valid! Tukumbuke kuwa bila a reasonable resistance hata kama ni very blind .. we have no going foward!! Hivyo Kwa kweli Kwa hoja tuliyoletwa hakuna jipya ambalo halikutegemewa!
     
  6. Madela Wa- Madilu

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    Pastor Kishoka!

    Nilidhani unaanzisha Agano Jipya kutoka ndani ya Biblia kumbe ni agano jipaya la kuleta namna mpya ya kufikiri na kuchukua na kutenda.

    Wazungu hapa UESIEI wanasema.



    Kwa hiyo kama Talk ni Tough naamini hata Walk itakuwa Tough vile vile.
     
  7. Azimio Jipya

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    Mandela: Hebu sema tena kwa kufafanua na upana kidogo... naona umesema kimethali zaidi
     
  8. Rev. Kishoka

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    Koba, nimemnukuu huyu bwana si kwa matusi yake ili nimjue kwa maandishi. Najua yeye ni mpuuzi wa siku nyingi. Kilichoharakisha hasira yangu na kutangaza hili Agano jipya ni majivuno yake kama ya CCM.

    Yeye anaona kuwa 1% ya Watanzania wenye internet na 3% wanaosoma magazeti hawana haki yeyote wala msukumo kudai haki zao, hivyo sauti zetu ni batili. Hii ni dhana ya CCM kudai eti 80% waliridhia na uongozi wa CCM ndio maana wakashinda Tsunami.

    Naam, walishinda Tsunami kutokana na ulaghai, udhalimu na kusaliti Taifa. Leo hii twajutia kura zetu na hivyo tunapotaka kufurukuta mfano kama suala la Katiba, basi kina Nagu na wenzake wa 80% wanasema nyie wa 20% hamna haki.

    Katiba ni lazima ipitiwe na kuandikwa upya kukidhi mahitaji ya Taifa na nyakati tulizoko na si kuweka viraka au kuridhia kuwa midhali Katiba ina kimu mahitaji ya CCM (Vigogo wake) basi mazungumzo hata kuichambua Katiba ni Batili.

    Azimio la Arusha labidi kuelimishwa na kupitiwa. Kama Mwalimu Nyerere alisema lahitaji mabadiliko kadhaa na kuhamasisha utekelezaji wake.

    Watanzania tumepotoka kufikiri kuwa Azimio lilituletea Umasikini. La hasha! Ni sehemu moja ya Azimio ambayo ilitafsiriwa vibaya na kushindwa kufanyika vizuri ni kwenye kupambanua suala la Kujitegemea na haswa kuhusu kutegemea Umilikajji wa Uzalishaji mali kupitia mikono binafsi na hasa ile ya Wageni.

    Azimio bado lipo hai, kinadharia na hata kivitendo. Tusipotoshwe na danganya toto ya Zanzibar 1992 ambayo ilifuta miiko ya Uongozi kuhusiana na kujilimbikizia mali!

    So my anger is due to the fact that, my place in my nation and my well being are being belittle by idiots like Fisadist, who represents those who we have been fighting day and night!

    Msikatee tamaa. Kazi ya Kujenga Taifa bado haijaisha, mapambano ndio kwanza yanapata nguvu mpya!
     
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    Madela,

    Fear not the fight. Nikitumia msaafu, hata Utume wa Kristo ulikuwa na Ugumu wake ambao uliishia kutundikwa Msalabani ili wale wamwaminio Mungu wakombolewe.

    Daudi aliimba, "Bwana ndiye Mchungai wangu...Naam nijapopita kati ya bonde la uvuli wa mauti, Sitaogopa mabaya"

    Time for soft conversation over cup of tea or Chibuku has to come to an end if one side continues to deceive the other side. We need to be tough and not only on our talk but even in the way we walkl!

    THe tough talk on Ufisadi has started reaping fruits of our sweats. now Mafisadi wanahangaika kama panya pangoni anapoona nyoka kaingia.

    Same has to be done opn Katiba. We can not allow Nagu and CCM to be dismissive as they have done in the past. They have neglected the Muafaka talks and a lesson has been learnt from Kenya, uprising is the only solution!
     
  10. Madela Wa- Madilu

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    Mkikaa kikao cha kumwinda simba mla watu( Fisadi) kwa kutumia silaha za jadi mazungumzo yanakuwa makali sana. Tough Talk.

    Saa ya kupambana na Simba mla watu ikifika ni wakati wa Ku Walk Talk. Kwa sababu shughuli yenyewe ni ya kumwua Simba ni ngangalii, si lelemama kama kuweka maji kwenye Gilasi, vishindo vyake siku zote huzua patashika( Tough Walk).
    Na msipo jiangalia mnaweza toboana wenyewe kwa mishale na mikuki na kuuana badala ya kumchoma na kumwua simba mlawatu( Fisadi)
     
  11. Azimio Jipya

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    Rev: You have just touched the realy core of the matter:
    hebu soma link hii, ina a simple example of what I want to say..nisirudie hapa : http://www.jamboforums.com/showthread.php?t=8950

    Then pita hii:

    THEN malizia na hiii:

    Definetly you will see that there lots of people with same idea as yours. Wanaelimisha na kutoa Mwito wa kusonga mbele: Na utaona kuwa bado we have hope kama Tunataka.


    REV: Ninamaliza kwa kusema Nakubaliana kabisa na maneno yako::

    Azimio la Arusha labidi kuelimishwa na kupitiwa. Kama Mwalimu Nyerere alisema lahitaji mabadiliko kadhaa na kuhamasisha utekelezaji wake.

    Watanzania tumepotoka kufikiri kuwa Azimio lilituletea Umasikini. La hasha! Ni sehemu moja ya Azimio ambayo ilitafsiriwa vibaya na kushindwa kufanyika vizuri ni kwenye kupambanua suala la Kujitegemea na haswa kuhusu kutegemea Umilikajji wa Uzalishaji mali kupitia mikono binafsi na hasa ile ya Wageni.

    Azimio bado lipo hai, kinadharia na hata kivitendo. Tusipotoshwe na danganya toto ya Zanzibar 1992 ambayo ilifuta miiko ya Uongozi kuhusiana na kujilimbikizia mali!
     
  12. Rev. Kishoka

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    Bwana asifiwe! maana nilifikiri nipo peke yangu na wachache ninaowafahamu Nashukuru na nafurahi kuwa tupo wengi wenye mtazamo huo huo wa mapinduzi. hivyo vita hivi ni kutoka pande zote kumng'oa haramu mhujumu mbadhirifu.

    Tumeonewa kiasi cha kutosha, tumenyanyaswa kiasi cha kutosha, tumepuunzwa kiasi cha kutosha, tumenyonywa kiasi cha kutosha. Ni unyonge wetu ndio uliotufikisha hapo. ni unyonge tuliouendekeza na kufanya ushamiri na kutuacha Masikini, Wajinga na wenye Maradhi.

    Naam sasa ni wakati wa kumkataa Shetani nia kazi zake ili tuondokane na Unyonge ulioleta Udhalimu, Ubadhirifu, Uhujumu na Usaliti!
     
  13. Mzee Mwanakijiji

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    Hii ni sehemu tu ya mahojiano ya Mwalimu na IB. unaweza kuyasoma yote hapa: MAHOJIANO NA MWALIMU

    IB: Does the Arusha Declaration still stand up today?


    MJN: I still travel around with it. I read it over and over to see what I would change. Maybe I would improve on the Kiswahili that was used but the Declaration is still valid: I would not change a thing. Tanzania had been independent for a short time before we began to see a growing gap between the haves and the have-nots in our country. A privileged group was emerging from the political leaders and bureaucrats who had been poor under colonial rule but were now beginning to use their positions in the Party and the Government to enrich themselves. This kind of development would alienate the leadership from the people. So we articulated a new national objective: we stressed that development is about all our people and not just a small and privileged minority.

    The Arusha Declaration was what made Tanzania distinctly Tanzania. We stated what we stood for, we laid down a code of conduct for our leaders and we made an effort to achieve our goals. This was obvious to all, even if we made mistakes - and when one tries anything new and uncharted there are bound to be mistakes.

    The Arusha Declaration and our democratic single-party system, together with our national language, Kiswahili, and a highly politicized and disciplined national army, transformed more than 126 different tribes into a cohesive and stable nation.

    However, despite this achievement, they say we failed in Tanzania, that we floundered. But did we? We must say no. We can't deny everything we accomplished. There are some of my friends who we did not allow to get rich; now they are getting rich and they say `See, we are getting rich now, so you were wrong'. But what kind of answer is that?

    The floundering of socialism has been global. This is what needs an explanation, not just the Tanzanian part of it. George Bernard Shaw, who was an atheist, said, `You cannot say Christianity has failed because it has never been tried.' It is the same with socialism: you cannot say it has failed because it has never been tried.
     
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    Mwanakiji,

    That is why I said, Azimio did not bring us Umasikini. Ulimbukeni na kudhani kutajirika na kuwa kama kina Rokafela,DuPont, Ford na koo nyingine za Kizungu ndio maendeleo.

    Those people created wealth by working hard, they did not steal, they were thrifty, they did not squander.

    Infact Azimio was creating a foundation for emergence of the likes of Dupont, hard working people who use their imagination and creativity to revolutionize our lives. (rejea kipengele cha juhudi na maarifa).

    Now our ruling class instead of working hard to become like the likes of Ford, they rush like Marcos, Bokassa and Pinochet! Worse enough is supressing the mass and lead them into a Maze that has no ending or purpose!
     
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    Mzee MwanaKiji: Thanks so much for Links.

    Sikuwahi kuiona while r in deep research kujaribu kuona what realy went wrong. Nimeshangaa kuona kuwa Kumbe Mwalimu JK ali_predict kurudi kwa Azimio la Arusha in a new verson :
    Ona hoja ya msingi na key words hapo: Values + Basic Principles

    Inabidi kutulia na kuondoa papara uchambuzi a kina unapobidi kufanywa: Inabidi kuangalia Taifa lilipo sasahivi. Inabdi kuona Ufisadi uanvyoliteketeza taifa mabalo linaitwa taifa huru la tanzania: Ndio utangamua maana ya maneno hayo; value and Basic principles

    Wakati wa kupigania uhuru: lazima kuna kikundi cha watu kilikaa na KUAGANA kuwa Lazima kuupata Uhuru wa Taifa la Tanganyika wakati huo. Lazima Waliagana na kukubaliana mambo muhimu...(Basic values and Principles).

    Ofcorse Uhuru wakati ule ilibidi uanzie kwenye UHURU WA BENDERA:
    But Agano la Msingi la kupigania Uhuru lilikuwa Kila "Familia Ya Tanzania KUJITEGEMEA KIUCHUMI"

    Harakati na mapambano ya kaanza: Uhuru ukapatikana. Kumbuka hilo halikuwezekena Bila kuwa Na viogozi. Viogozi wa kulifikisha "TAIFA KWENYE KUJITEGEMEA KIUCHUMI KWA KILA FAMILIA NA KILA MTANZANIA"

    Baada Ya Uhuru wabendera kuelekea kujenga uhuru wa uchumi. Mambo kama yanoyotokea sasa kwnye serekali ya awamu ya nne yakaanza kujitokeza. Viogozi wakasahau na kutupilia mbali kuwafanyia kazi wananchi wakaanza kuwa MAFISADI wasio shikika. Walifanya kila kile kinachofanywa na Uongozi Uliopo sasa. Wananchi wakaanza kutoa kilio kama wanvyofaya sasa. Hali ilikuwa kama hii iliyoko sasa tuseme kwa VALUE NA PRINCIPLES.

    DAWA:

    Mkutano wa kamtikuu Ulikaa Arusha 1967; Waka pitisha "MIIKO" iliyowabana Viongozi kuwategemea wananchi kama watumwa wao. MIIKO hiyo ambayo ilikuwa SAHIHI kabisa kwa wakati ule.

    Mtu mwenye link ya azimio la arusha atup. Unapo ondoa MIIKO YA UOGOZI taifa litayumba.

    Azimio la Zanzibar? Lliliondoa MIIKO YA UONGOZI. LEO HII HAKUA MIIKO YA AINA YOYOTE..soma makala hapo juu ya Dr Shoo. NDIO MAANA LAZIMA MIIKO MIPYA ITUNGWE TENA HARAKA A HATA IKIBIDI IWEKWE KWENYE KATIBA MPYA!!! Bila hivyo UONGOZI utatumika kama Mradi (Nafikiri hiki ndicho kinamsuta MKAPA)na utanunuliwa hata kwa Gharama ANAZOZIJUA MWAIKIBAKI NA WAANACHI WAKE KWA SASA. "UOGOZI UTAKUWA NI DILI"Dr Shoo!!
     
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    Mkuu REV; Nimepitia tena kwa makini doc. nzima; iko attached: nafikiri ni sawa kabisa Kusema kuwa Azimio La Arusha limejengwa na Nguzo Kuu mbili amabazo kila moja ilitokea Kwa wakati wake katika HISTORIA YA UUASISI WA TAIFA TANZANIA.

    kwa hiyo narekebisha kidogo;

    Kutoka:

    Na kuwa:



    Kama hilo halitatokea Tunaomba tuonyeshwa Mbadala. Hasa kwenye NGUZO YA MIIKO YA VIONGOZI!
    Mungu ibariki Tz.
     
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    Lakini azimio la Arusha lilikuwa ni sera ya Chama, na wala halikuwa kwenye katiba ya nchi, kwenye katiba ya nchi kulikuwa na sera ya Ujamaa tu(nampaka leo bado ipo)

    kwa hiyo ukitaka kulirudisha azimio la arusha huna budi kulirudisha katika chama, au uunde chama kitakachokopa mawazo ya azimio la arusha. lakini usitegemee chama A,au B, kufuata sera hizo, kwa sababu na wao wana sera zao kuhusiana na mambo hayo hayo yanayozungumziwa na azimio la arusha.

    sisi tunahitaji katiba bora, na sheria zilizowazi, sheria za haki, mambo ya mazimio ni mambo ya vyama na kila chama kikiingia madarakani kinaenda kutekeleza sera zake bila kuathiri sheria za nchi.

    Kwa hiyo unless otherwise, ukitaka Azimio la Arusha lirudi halina budi kupitia katika mlango wa sheria na katiba,

    lakini mbona sheria za uajiri na sheria za kazi zipo wazi tu?.lakini mafisadi bado wanazivunja, wanaiba kinyume cha sheria. kwa hiyo problem hapa siyo Azimio kutokuwepo ,problem ni law enforcement ,hata ukiwa na maazimio mia kama enforcement hakuna basi hakuna chochote kitakachofanyika.
     
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    Mimi pia nalikubali sana Azimio la Arusha. Ni kati ya vitabu vichache vya zamani nilivyonavyo. Kimsingi Azimio la Arusha ni falsafa ya TANU zaidi kuliko ya CCM. Kiitikadi, TANU ilikuwa kushoto mno, wakati CCM ilikwenda kulia sana wakati wa Mwinyi. Lakini leo hii, ideologically speaking, CCM is a bankrupt party now; they are just doing things without any reason other than to hold on power which is why any politician believing in ideological stance as a core part of a political party will find it hard to be a practical member of CCM.

    In my view, to radically transform Tanzania from where it is now, we need a party that is a bit further away from the left of TANU but less to the right than CCM. This is where CHADEMA comes in very well. So, any movement of ideas that we will endeavour to undertake with a view to transforming our country we will eventually need a political party to put those ideas in practice. It is from this reality of the matter that I have always asked you guys to join CHADEMA massively and let's bring all those fantastic ideas at its disposal. We certainly don't need another moribund NGO in our country; we need a political party that will take us to the next step and for this,we need CHADEMA and CHADEMA needs us.
     
  20. Azimio Jipya

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    NAKUBALIANA NA HOJA ZAKO KIASI KIKUBWA:

    KWANZA:

    Tunapolichambua azimio la arusha kwa kinaganga ni kutaka kuwa onesha viogozi waliopo madarakani wapi wamepotoka na kwanini wamepotoka. Wapi wamesaliti kile walichosema wanakiamini, kukifuata NA KUKIFANYIA VIAPO. Tunawaonyesha kiundani NA OBJECTIVELY namna waliyoitumia kujisaliti wenyewe na wale waliosema wanawaongoza. Tunawaonyesha Maana ya kweli Ya Ujamaa, maana ya Kujitegemea, maana Ya UONGOZI na MIIKO yake.tuwawaonyesha madhara ya kukiukwa kwa hayo. Baada ya hayo, tunatoa mapendekezo bora zaidi tunayotegemea yatafuatwa na kutokuchezewa.

    PILI;

    DOC. iliyokuwa ni msingi wa maendeleo na ujenzi wa Taifa hili so far ilikuwa azimio la arusha kwa hiyo halitakwepa kufumuliwa na kuangliwa kwa kina kila na kwenye kila pembe yake. Na hatimaye kukarabatiwa. kama final product ya usahihi wake baadaye utatumiwa kwenye chama fulani au kwenye katiba ya taifa that is another thing. Kwani kama ni kufaulu au kushindwa kwetu ni doc. hiyo ilivyofuatiliwa au kutekelezwa. Hatufanyi yote haya kwa misingi ya itikadi au imani yeyote. kwani ukweli na ustawi wa jamii ni swala la kanuni,sheria na falsafa zilizosimamia ukweli katika ujenzi na utekelezaji wake. Ukweli huo unaweza kutumiwa na chama chochote au katiba ya nchi yeyote nk.

    TATU;

    Ni kweli dhana ya Ujamaa na kujitegemea ni swala la kikatiba. Na lilikuwa ni agano na dira ya kutafuta uhuru na kujenga uchumi. Ni KANUNI,DHANA, FALSAFA!INAJITGEMEA KAMA UKWELI UNAVYOJITEGEMEA BILA KUJALI CHOMBO CHA KUUBEBEA,CHAMA, NGO ETC UTEKELEZAJI WAKE ULIONYESHA MAPUNGUFU YASIYOKUWEPO KWENYE KATIBA. NAMNA YA KWELI KABISA YA "KUWABANA KWA DHATI MAFISADI VIONGOZI"

    Ili kuepuka mchezo mchafu dhidi ya Sheria, Maagano na Maazimio muhimu ya Kitaifa:



    Hii itatuepusha na Madhara ya kijamii ambayo yanaepukika kama tukitaka. Na hili lifanyike haraka. Natumaini wenye mamlaka na uongozi watafikishiwa au watayasoma haya na kuyafanyia kazi maramoja. Tuanategemea watakuwa na busara ya kuharakisha "MIITO YETU" kabla ya kulipeleka taifa pale mataifa yanayotuzunguka yalipofikia.
     
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