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African union why not remove Gbagbo by force?

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    Gbagbo orders peacekeepers to leave Ivory Coast

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    Incumbent Ivory Coast President Laurent Gbagbo has demanded that all foreign peacekeepers leave the country immediately, escalating a dispute over last month's presidential election.

    His spokesperson accused UN and French troops of colluding with former rebels.

    The UN and major powers have recognised Mr Gbagbo's rival, Alassane Ouattara, as the winner of the 28 November poll. Mr Gbagbo insists he has won.

    Mr Ouattara is currently under UN protection at a hotel in Abidjan.

    In a statement read on national television on Saturday, government spokeswoman Jacqueline Oble said Mr Gbagbo had "requested the immediate departure of the Onuci [UN mission] and the French forces supporting it".

    The UN force, the statement added, had "interfered seriously in the internal affairs of Ivory Coast".

    Earlier, the UN said one of its patrols had come under fire as it entered the mission compound in Abidjan, the country's main city.

    Sanction threat
    Early on Friday, opposition supporters were arrested in Grand Bassam, about 30km (20 miles) east of Abidjan, and there are reports of several people being killed there.


    Ever since the United Nations mission chose to certify the decision of the Independent Electoral Commission giving victory to the opposition, they have been targeted by attacks on state television.

    Now they have been ordered to leave in an official communique that says they were destablising the country and accused them of taking the side of the opposition and the ex-rebel movement.

    On Friday night a standard UN patrol was followed by armed men, who opened fire on the UN base.

    The 10,000-strong UN peacekeeping mission is unlikely to leave and there are few countries that recognise Mr Gbagbo's government.

    The UN force is currently defending the lagoon-side hotel that shelters Mr Ouattara's opposition government.

    Its radio station UNOCI FM is one of the few alternative news sources for Ivorians, after opposition newspapers were banned and many foreign news channels taken off the air. Non-essential UN staff have already left.

    Mr Ouattara's supporters have said they would again to the streets again, following gun battles which left 20 dead in Abidjan on Thursday.

    The UN Security Council warned that all sides would be held accountable under international law for any attacks against civilians.

    The United Nations, the US, former colonial power France, and the African Union have all called on Mr Gbagbo to stand down.

    French President Nicolas Sarkozy on Friday said he should quit by Sunday or face EU sanctions.

    But Mr Ghagbo says the election was rigged by rebels who still hold the north after the civil war in 2002-03.

    The BBC's John James, in Abidjan, says tension has been building since the head of the UN peacekeeping mission, Choi Young-Jin recognised opposition leader Alassane Ouattara as the rightful winner of the election.

    A peace deal signed by all sides gave the UN a role in certifying the election results.
     
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    Lets try to dig deep, who gives Gbagbo the power to remain as president? its amongst ivorians themselves, the ones who serve and protects him, The Ivorians should emancipated themselves from another form of dictatorship posed by Gbagbo
     
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    I feel sorry for Gbagbo and his clique who seem oblivious of what is in store for them! Whoever coined this phrase was right in this case: Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
     
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    I won't comment anything here until Mr benard membe garner troups to abidjan to help enthron mr ouattara as he did to remove col. bakari of anjwan islands of comorrow!
     
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    AU wanadiscuss tu, naamini ecowas wakituma majeshi sasa hivi, huyu bagbo na wafuasi wake watakimbia kwa sababu hawana moral authority yoyote.Tatizo la waafrika tunasubiri UN, na EU kufanya kazi zetu, kuna hatari hii itakuwa Rwanda mark 2 kama hali itaendelea hivi.

    AU/ecowas shpuld act now!!
     
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    this is where nigeria, ghana senegal and a few other west africa nation send some troops to ivory coast with the rest of AU members backing them up logistically and man power if needed.

    clearly this guy doesnt want to be talked to step down then there is no other choice but to forcefuly send him on permanent "vacation" when diplomacy fails use force!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Ni nani katika viongozi wa Afrika mwenye moral authority ya kumwondoa Gbagbo? Wengi wao wameingia kwa njia za haramu.

    Hili suala linapigiwa kelele sana ni kwa sababu ya maslahi ya ufaransa na nchi za kimagharibi. Vinginevyo tusingesikia chochote.

    Ila kuwa na mtazamo mpana soma hii article hapa chini




    2010 Elections in Cote D' Ivoire: What most media do not tell you.

    Posted December 4, 2010
    By Aloysius AGENDIA
    Early November 2010, Ivoirians went to the polls to elect a new president. After the first round of elections, no candidate could get the absolute majority needed to avoid a runoff. Incumbent president Laurent Gbagbo of LMP scored 38 percent of the votes while former Prime Minister Alasane Ouatara of PDR and former President Henri Konan Bedie got 32 and 25 percent respectively. The second round on November 28, 2010 pitted Ouatara against Gbagbo. Konan Bedie urged his supporters to rally behind Ouatara. Analysts considered the call a marriage against nature because; it was the same Konan Bedie who made claims in the late 1990s and early 2000 that Ouatara was not an Ivoirian but actually a Burkinabe. That was the beginning of rivalry in Cote D Ivoire. From that perspective, it is hard to say with certainty if the supporters of Bedie could actually vote for Ouatara or massively vote for someone whom for years they consider more of their enemy than Laurent Gbagbo.
    After the November 28 runoff, the Independent Electoral Commission from a hotel hideout declared that Alasane Ouatara was winner of the elections with 54 percent of the votes as against 45 for Laurent Gbagbo. However, the victory was annulled moments later by the Constitutional Council of Cote D' Ivoire after it admitted claims and proofs from the Laurent Gbagbo camp that the elections were heavily flawed in the North which is controlled by New Forces rebels (they remain armed till date) said to be loyal to Alasane Ouatara. More so, the elections result had not been declared within the stipulated time frame by law. There were also claims of fraud in the west, Gbagbo's fief but it is not clear if a formal complain was deposited by the Ouatara camp.

    That notwithstanding, in a twist of events the United Nations and some countries like France, USA dismissed the statement of the Constitutional Council of Cote D' Ivoire and said in categorical terms that the results declared by the Electoral Commission were the right ones and valid and they would consider Alasane Ouatara as the president of Cote D' Ivoire.
    The issue is that a lot of media organs in African have been relaying information from international press without knowing the ramifications of their actions.
    It becomes very dangerous and troubling when media in Cameroon and most of Africa, get their news on elections in Cote D 'Ivoire only from CNN, France 24, rfi or sister media, most of who do analysis somtimes without knowing exactly what happened, or limiting their analysis to immediate actions without knowing what provoked the actions or again out rightly analysing without taking into consideration what the law of that country says with respect to what they are analysing.
    As far as the November presidential elections in Cote D Ivoire are concerned, you may want to read this article culled from this newspaper http://www.notrevoie.com/Home.asp. Or http://www.notrevoie.com/a_la_une.asp?id=37453 or read the whole edition of Notre Voie No 3747 of December 03, 2010.

    You may also want to read a pro- Alasane Ouatara paper like Nouveau Reveil Issue No 2687 of December 03, 2010 on website address http://www.lenouveaureveil.com/. That is why I decided to read these two newspapers which are diametrically opposed, in order to make an informed opinion of the real situation in Cote D' Ivoire.
    After having done that, please relief yourself from the psychological warfare. The media, especially so called international bodies, international media and colonial troops stationed in Cote D' Ivoire must stop causing confusion and sowing disunity among people.

    WHAT THE INTERNATIONAL MEDIA IS REFUSING TO ALSO STRESS OR MENTION:

    - The report sheet of the majority of members of the Electoral Commission in the north of the country admitted that the elections were highly flawed in that area.

    - They also refused to mention that results were cancelled in virtually all of France where Gbagbo's party had a resounding majority. Yet, the president of the EC paid a blind eye on what happened in the north since he knew certain international media and countries will back his action.

    - The international media is mentioning that the President of the Constitutional Council is pro Gbagbo but fails to admit that the President of the Electoral Commission as well as its Permanent Secretary and Spokesman are all pro Ouatara. What an unnecessary hype.

    - The international media focuses on the tearing of results sheet by a pro'-Gbagbo member of the EC. without investigating what provoked such actions. The action of the EC member was uncivil though.

    - The international media fails to emphasize that the election results had not been harmonised before the spokesman rushing to make inflammatory declarations.

    - The international media fails to equally reiterate that the results were released in a hotel hide out rather than from the Electoral Commission's office.

    - The international media fails to mention that in several areas in the North, Ouatara is said to have had more votes than all of the registered voters in the polling centres concerned. That can only happen in Cameroon under Paul Biya.

    -The international media has carefully avoided what other election observers like the AU and other independent monitors said about the elections. They prefer to hinge on what EU, French and UN team are claiming.
    The international media with the exception of BBC failed to relay or analyse an ultimatum given by French President and Foreign Minister to the EC of Cote Ivoire. It read "the election results MUST be published today" that was Wednesday December 01, 2010. Who are they to give ultimatums to a sovereign nation and what was the reason behind such an irritating statement?
    -The international community represented by some powerful capitalists and imperialist bodies, think they can use the so called International Tribunal at The Hague to threaten nationalist African leaders. The headline of Le Nouveau Reveil of December 03, 201, a pro Ouatara newspaper even confirms this.

    And finally, the whistleblower Wikileaks in one of its cables revealed that Nicholas Sarkhozy is France's closest American ally of all past French presidents since WWII. And you may not know the reason behind this. This is simply because Sarkhozy needs the support of USA and allies in consolidating his grip on Africa and he wants to retake or re-colonised Africa and the rights Africans were beginning to take after some of us gained consciousness. It is because of such backing that his country will mete out the most inhuman treatment on Africans in France, yet no nation/ international media would bother to talk about, less of making it a hype. Where is the RUPTURE he promised?

    Please do not fall prey to the media psychological warfare. I know many of you are defeated already.

    Let all colonial and neo-colonial troops leave Cote D ‘Ivoire and the same apply to all of Africa. That country can solve its problem without confusion being orchestrated by international troops and bodies there. Without people coming in the name of peace mission, maintaining their interest yet eventually ending up arming militias and rebels and intoxicating villagers.

    Finally, if elections were rigged in the north of Cote D' Ivoire an area controlled by rebels and said to be loyal to Ouatara, then such elections must be cancelled. If not, Gbagbo should accept defeat, leave honourably and begin preparing for next elections.

    France succeeded in Gabon with 'Omar Bongo Ondimba Ali Ben' after France-Afrique emperor Omar Bongo Ondimba I died. I pray and hope they do not succeed in Cote D' Ivoire again. Renaissance is needed. Cameroon may likely take the stage in 2011. We want to do our things in peace. Whatever will happen in Cameroon we do not need French or UN troops.

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    1 Innocent December 4, 2010
    My brother, I very much agree with you, on the Foreign Media issue, but when I watched the debate between Laurent Gbagbo and Ouattara, I have to admit that Ouattara convinced me more, even though I went in as a Gbagbo sympathiser.
    So I think it can really be, that Ouattara won this election. Maybe he convinced more people like myself.


    2 efiveyoung December 5, 2010
    I don't really want to take sides but u have put up a very good writeup and have made me atleast proud of some of our African Journalist like urselve.The media is there to bring peace and not sow a seed of war.Keep up the great job and wish Cameroon 2011 a success


    3 ralph kolle December 5, 2010
    what a great debate, again to see how though we think we are independent, we are still colonised (neocolonialism i should say). Let the french not repeat what they did alongside belgians to put rwanda into the greatest confusion and genocide ever lived in the african continent. I hope Cameroonians begin to learn a lesson; hope elecam equally begins to learn a lesson because 2011 in Cameroon will not be easy. thanks.


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    Well said brother. All African rulers are as guilty as Gbagbo. It will be the story of baboon laughing At the ass for another baboon. This is Africa more than we know it.
     
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    Well said brother. All African rulers are as guilty as Gbagbo. It will be the story of baboon laughing At the ass for another baboon. This is Africa more than we know it.
     
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    Unaweza kusoma pia hii interview na Waziri wa Mambo ya nchi za Nje wa Ivory Coast ili kuthibitisha point yangu kuwa viongozi wa Afrika hawawezi kufanya vitu kwa maslahi ya wananchi wao, bali kwa maslahi ya nchi za Magharibi na matumbo yao basi.
    Exclusive interview with Alcide Djédjé, Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Republic of Côte d'Ivoire

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    This is the first interview given by His Excellency Alcide Djédjé, Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Republic of Côte d'Ivoire to a French media after the recent presidential elections in Côte d'Ivoire. He is denouncing the interference of the United Nations, led by France and the United-States, within the leadership of a sovereign country. This exclusive interview was broadcasted on Monday, 13th December on radio Kernews. You will find below the transcript with some required rewriting modifications of an oral conversation. Because of the sensitive nature of this case, we highlight the fact that only the recording of the voice should be considered as the perfect mirror of His Excellency's speech and tone. The diplomat who studied in Sciences Po, France, worked as a Permanent Representative of Côte d'Ivoire to the UN. President Laurent Gbagbo gave him his trust and appointed him as the new Minister of Foreign Affairs.
    Duration: 30 minutes. To listen to the interview with Mr Alcide Djédjé please click on play: ​
    Kernews: What's happening in Côte d'Ivoire? Why do you think Paris and Washington have taken such a stance on the question of Côte d'Ivoire's inner politics? Do you consider it to be an interference in a sovereign country's domestic affairs?
    Alcide Djédjé: Yes I do. France and The United States have really interfered with Côte d'Ivoire's domestic affairs. This started within the Security Council in New York, as a high degree of pressure was put on the UN external Services Representative so that the president of the independent Electoral Commission, which usually gathers in plenary sessions and by consensus, was brought to the premises of UNOCI in Abidjan in order to declare the results. Mr Choi refused and called me to tell me so. That is how the President of the independent Electoral Commission, Mr Youssouf Bakayoko, was brought to the Hôtel du Golf, the campaign headquarters of Mr Ouattara, facing the foreign press, including France 24, in order to declare wrongful results. According to these results, the voting rate accounts for 81% (compared to 70%): we realized that more than 630 000 votes had been added after the closing of the polls. That's what's happening in the Côte d'Ivoire and this was caused by France and United States. The French Ambassador and the American Ambassador to Côte d'Ivoire are very active. The day before, President Sarkozy had sent a message to the President of the independent Electoral Commission in order to ask him to declare results right away. I myself stood in front of members of the French military who were trying to hand this message over to the President of the independent Electoral Commission at 10:40 PM. This was reported to us by members of our country's military. I went myself on this venue and I called the French Ambassador who ordered the members of the French military to go back to the Licorne camp, they seemed very embarrassed. President Sarkozy's instructions were followed the next day. Then, President Sarkozy and now President Wade, called President Jonathan Goodluck to influence the decision of the ECOWAS. Even worse, the American Embassy to Abidjan, whom I welcomed in my office, knew the future stance of the African Union. Thus it is not only interfering with our Home Affairs, but also a manipulation of the institutions such as ECOWAS and the African Union so that Alassane Ouattara is elected as President. Unfortunately for them, Mr Ouattara has not got any influence on the reality of the field here in Côte d'Ivoire. So we formed our government because President Gbagbo was elected as President of the Republic, even after the claims and the decisions made by the Constitutional Council which declared him as the President. This is the current situation in Abidjan.
    Excellency, you have just reminded us this reality: the gap, the difference between the turnout at the polls and the number of votes, with almost 630 000 extra votes. In France, we used to say, a few decades ago, when there were ballot stuffing in some suburbs, that even dead people were voting…Apparently, things are not so different...
    Yes, of course, we see that everything was arranged with a view to this illegal declaration of results, off the deadline, by the independent Electoral Commission. Whereas the thirty other members of the central Commission were waiting at the CEI headquarters, Mr Bakayoko was kidnapped by the French Ambassador and by the American Ambassador, surrounded by gendarmes of the "Forces nouvelles" and by the UN, in order to go and declare the results and what is worse, at the campaign headquarters of one of the candidates. All this, on French TV… I do not understand this hurry and we see today that it was really rude. This appears as something surreal and a too rude, too obvious... I told the Ambassador of the United States that it was not a subtle way. One can have preferences, but you have to act in a subtle and responsible way. You cannot show and make people understand that our institutions are useless, fifty years after our independence was declared, show that the Constitutional Council is useless. Nevertheless, all of our institutions are made on the same pattern as similar institutions in France and in the United States. The validation, by the Supreme Court of the United States, of the first election of President Bush, is part of this reality. Nobody else, no other State protested against the validation of Mr. Bush by the Supreme Court. In France, there has been some non validations against Ms. Ségolène Royal, I do not have precise information on that, but that is the role of Constitutional Council in France. Why would it be the role of a Representative of the General Secretary of the United Nations in Côte d'Ivoire? Simply, you always think that our sovereignty has to be affected, that you should always put pressure on us and that, we cannot accept. We formed our government. Maybe you will come and try to step on us, chase us away from Côte d'Ivoire, and embark upon a purification process so that there is a Côte d'Ivoire as Mr. Sarkozy and American authorities want it to be. We hold our ground, the law is on our side, and we cannot accept a sovereign country, member of the United Nations, to be treated by a civil servant of the Unites States under the request of two state capitals, Paris and Washington.
    The western media state that the international community is putting pressure on Laurent Gbagbo and his staff. What stands for the international community? Russia has a slightly divergent stance as well as numerous others countries. Does an international media community exist, the one which sets the tone in the international media, which shapes the global public opinion? Only this international media community would be important?
    You are right. In this case, Russia adopted a very clear position. First of all, there was no presidential statement in New York, as Susan Rice, who currently chairs the Security Council for the USA, had expected. There was a press communiqué, which has not the same meaning and impact…And even the content of this press communiqué was discussed for a few days, which is very hardly the case. Finally, following the manipulation by the French President during the meeting of the ECOWAS, Russia allowed the release of this press communiqué, by principle, but did not agree and maintained his stance regarding the sovereignty of Côte d'Ivoire – saying that the Unites Nations are not commissioned to state results while presidential elections in a sovereign country. We met the Russian Representative after that and that does not mean Russia agreed with the decision. China, also, took a very clear stance. The Chinese government released a communiqué saying that the law has to prevail, institutions should be respected and that the political dialog should take place. That is the meaning of the Chinese communiqué. You are right to say that China, Russia and even South Africa, because that stance was not similar the ECOWAS' nor the African Union's opinion…but also Angola, Libya and CEN-SAD are very clear on that. Simply, what makes the difference, as you say, it is the media buzz: to make people believe, via the media, that President Gbagbo is isolated. The "buzz" was created but they did not go all the way because they were expecting the population to go out in the streets, saying that Laurent Gbagbo had lost and asks for his withdrawal, as the provisory results were declared in an illegal and incredible manner. Everything remained quiet because the President of the Republic has Côte d'Ivoire going for him and with him. He has got the military, the police, the gendarmerie and the population of Côte d'Ivoire. This is the reality of the field. Despite the media, it is not easy to take a country, otherwise than by force. All that they can do now is to come and invade Côte d'Ivoire and put Ouattara on top. Even after doing so, they will not be sure that Mr Ouattara can govern. Thus, you are right when you state that there is a kind of very strong media campaign, led by two capitals mainly, Paris and Washington, others behaving like opportunistic followers.
    You mentioned some States, that the Pope met President Gbagbo by calling him with this title: does it mean the Vatican acknowledges the President Gbagbo?
    Yes. Although it did not make any statement yet, the Vatican is very reticent to do so. Some countries are guarded about that but play their usual neutral part, such as Switzerland. What I can tell you is - make the difference between president Gbagbo and the powers that want to impose Mr Ouattara – we want to install peace in Côte d'Ivoire and they want to impose somebody on top in order to take advantage of this, because they are members of networks, networks of interests. They want to interfere in the affairs of Côte d'Ivoire, they want to make Côte d'Ivoire a trust territory in order to better control of our wealth. That is the difference between us and them. They do not care about the victims of a conflict that they are currently encouraging. They have started destabilizing and stopped being peacemakers. They use the United Nations to destabilize Côte d'Ivoire. What is happening is very worrying. The United Nations are destabilizing a country whereas the role of United Nations, its mission, is to be a peace maker. It is a very, very serious breach of duty.
    This is the problem of global governance. These are permanent member states of the Security Council, with very important responsibilities, to bring back peace in the world, and, on the contrary, they use the United Nations to their own benefit for a matter of interests. No matter what can happen later. You can see that we were compelled to organize these elections without a demilitarization of the North! Can you imagine organizing elections in a region of Côte d'Ivoire where there are rebels about to fight? That is what happened. In late March, in my speech at the UN, I was Ambassador to New York, I and Mr Choi at that time did ask for reunification before the elections. France and United States refused and told us to run elections under these circumstances. I told them that elections represented a dogma for them, whereas we are looking for peace and not elections for elections. Today, here are the results: elections took place and the country is blocked. That is a failure for France and the United States. And they are responsible for the current situation in Côte d'Ivoire and for the current status quo. They have the capacity to manage the world properly. There is a problem of governance within the Security Council, especially France and United States, which brings parts of the world to a point of no return. It is so great to talk about good governance but global governance is unmanageable today. These days, France has no African policy. France only hits from time to time, just like in Côte d'Ivoire, by using some networks, which is a shame.
    Two main ideas come forward through the conversation we just had. First of all, we attempted to carry out elections in a sovereign State, despite the fact that a fair share of this sovereign state's territory is controlled by armed militia….
    Yes.
    Second of all, we spoke of the domain of Globale governance, which makes me want to ask you a more personnal question : this problem had already been raised at the time of the War in Irak, yet eventually nothing has been done for the past seven years…..
    You are right, nothing has been done for the past seven years. It actually coincides with the start of the Côte d'Ivoire crisis in 2002. If you were to remember that at first it was the United Nations which were tasked with solving the problem in Côte d'Ivoire and insteaded of bringing peace in Côte d'Ivoire, France, following the Marcoussis Agreemments, had the Agreement endorsed by the United Nations and has continuously attempted to eject President Gbagbo instead of solving the problem of peace and reconciliation of Côte d'Ivoire. Consecutively we signed the Ouagadougou Agreements (APO).
    We had had to hope, taking into account the mobilization by the Ivoirians and the help of President Compaoré, that elections would be held after the reunification. It was what was established in the Ouagadougou political agreements: the elections were to be held two month after the disarmament and reunification. Yet the United Nation, through France and the United-States, applied pressure by saying that President Gbagbo does not which to take part in elections and that yet it is possible to hold them now, etc….. Since in New York it is France which is at the source of the Côte d'Ivoire resolution project. Even though President Gbagbo objected, they kept on and imposed that elections be held before the disarmament of the North and the reunification.
    There; by manipulation the United Nations, the ECOWAS et the African Union we obtain total failure in the case of Côte d'Ivoire and this raises the problem of Global governance. There are no objectives, there is no ideal of peace, there are only interest networks which matter this results in what we can witness today in Cote d'Ivoire, which in this case means a country spoiled by France and the United-Sates. They despise the institutions that Cote d'Ivoire has established which she has modelled on similar French and Northern American institutions, and who have already given their ruling such as in the elections of Mister Bush versus Mister Al Gore, and for which no one had a saying in it because it falls under the question of sovereignty.
    Yet when its the case of Côte d'Ivoire, because it is a small country, maybe they thing that President Gbagbo is not within their network ? Maybe they thing that he must be ejected and grossly scorn some of the major principals which drive this world, meaning State sovereignty and the right of nations to self-determination ? It is outrageous that President Sarkozy and US and French Ambassadors intervene in such a disgraceful manner, laking finesse, in the institution sof a sovereign country. At the time that I am speaking to you, the US Ambassador is attempting to get in direct contact with the television network General manager (RTI) and other General managers. He does not follow the proper traditional diplomatic channels, meaning the targeted Minister or the Foreign Affaires Minister. He acts as if he is on territory with no leader and we are being re-colonized, fifty years after our independence.
    In a territory with no leaders, in other times, we would have called this an act of war…
    Yes it is an act of war. Taking into account that there has been no affront, certain things may be tolerated….. for now.
    In order to posses the keys of the full understanding of what may happen, maybe, in the coming days: we can read on the Internet messages explaining that your opposition may stage the sending of battalions of children in front, behind, the armed rebel forces, in order to possibly create mayhem in Abidjan and forced the Army in to reacting in front of the TV cameras to show the global viewers that President Gbagbo's Army are combating children….. What is your opinion on this ?
    We are on the ground, I do not think that we may reach such levels. If they were to reach that level, you would be there to judge, this is already a global matter. Wanting to put children forward in front of the Ivoirian Army, let them take the responsibility. On our side, we would do all that is needed not reach such a situation. These are not classic methods of power wars.
    Eventually, Pau Collier, professor at Oxford University, underlines that the Western world considers that its model of Democracy may be duplicated in other territories which do no possess the same culture or the same raised population issues. None the less, they consider that we are continuously being wrong. Doesn't this crisis raise such problem ?
    Yes. We could have accepted this fact and we accept it such as it is. But when we work following of sole interests, we scorn the western model. The example of Côte d'Ivoire is plain and simple. There are institutions, the Electoral Commission chairs in a collegial manner and in consensus, but those who advocate the democratic model step out of the path of law when the functioning of the institutions does not suite them anymore. They bring with them the independent Electoral Commission in one of the candidates' campaign headquarters. It is unbelievable! It is the first time in the world that it happens! Afterwards, the Constitutional Council arbitration was challenged, where in their own democracy it is what was done. Even when you embrace their model, they act accordingly to their interests. Eventually, they do not have any ideal nor model. The public opinion is very strong in their countries and they have to respect their country's democratic model. But in smaller countries, I believe that their model is dictatorship It is why I raise the issue of global governance which is totally adrift today, because of the United-States, in the case of Côte d'Ivoire.



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    Exclusive interview with Alcide Djédjé, Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Republic of Côte d'Ivoire

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    Behind the scene of a global media manipulation
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    This is the first interview given by His Excellency Alcide Djédjé, Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Republic of Côte d'Ivoire to a French media after the recent presidential elections in Côte d'Ivoire. He is denouncing the interference of the United Nations, led by France and the United-States, within the leadership of a sovereign country. This exclusive interview was broadcasted on Monday, 13th December on radio Kernews. You will find below the transcript with some required rewriting modifications of an oral conversation. Because of the sensitive nature of this case, we highlight the fact that only the recording of the voice should be considered as the perfect mirror of His Excellency's speech and tone. The diplomat who studied in Sciences Po, France, worked as a Permanent Representative of Côte d'Ivoire to the UN. President Laurent Gbagbo gave him his trust and appointed him as the new Minister of Foreign Affairs.
    Duration: 30 minutes. To listen to the interview with Mr Alcide Djédjé please click on play: ​
    Kernews: What's happening in Côte d'Ivoire? Why do you think Paris and Washington have taken such a stance on the question of Côte d'Ivoire's inner politics? Do you consider it to be an interference in a sovereign country's domestic affairs?
    Alcide Djédjé: Yes I do. France and The United States have really interfered with Côte d'Ivoire's domestic affairs. This started within the Security Council in New York, as a high degree of pressure was put on the UN external Services Representative so that the president of the independent Electoral Commission, which usually gathers in plenary sessions and by consensus, was brought to the premises of UNOCI in Abidjan in order to declare the results. Mr Choi refused and called me to tell me so. That is how the President of the independent Electoral Commission, Mr Youssouf Bakayoko, was brought to the Hôtel du Golf, the campaign headquarters of Mr Ouattara, facing the foreign press, including France 24, in order to declare wrongful results. According to these results, the voting rate accounts for 81% (compared to 70%): we realized that more than 630 000 votes had been added after the closing of the polls. That's what's happening in the Côte d'Ivoire and this was caused by France and United States. The French Ambassador and the American Ambassador to Côte d'Ivoire are very active. The day before, President Sarkozy had sent a message to the President of the independent Electoral Commission in order to ask him to declare results right away. I myself stood in front of members of the French military who were trying to hand this message over to the President of the independent Electoral Commission at 10:40 PM. This was reported to us by members of our country's military. I went myself on this venue and I called the French Ambassador who ordered the members of the French military to go back to the Licorne camp, they seemed very embarrassed. President Sarkozy's instructions were followed the next day. Then, President Sarkozy and now President Wade, called President Jonathan Goodluck to influence the decision of the ECOWAS. Even worse, the American Embassy to Abidjan, whom I welcomed in my office, knew the future stance of the African Union. Thus it is not only interfering with our Home Affairs, but also a manipulation of the institutions such as ECOWAS and the African Union so that Alassane Ouattara is elected as President. Unfortunately for them, Mr Ouattara has not got any influence on the reality of the field here in Côte d'Ivoire. So we formed our government because President Gbagbo was elected as President of the Republic, even after the claims and the decisions made by the Constitutional Council which declared him as the President. This is the current situation in Abidjan.
    Excellency, you have just reminded us this reality: the gap, the difference between the turnout at the polls and the number of votes, with almost 630 000 extra votes. In France, we used to say, a few decades ago, when there were ballot stuffing in some suburbs, that even dead people were voting…Apparently, things are not so different...
    Yes, of course, we see that everything was arranged with a view to this illegal declaration of results, off the deadline, by the independent Electoral Commission. Whereas the thirty other members of the central Commission were waiting at the CEI headquarters, Mr Bakayoko was kidnapped by the French Ambassador and by the American Ambassador, surrounded by gendarmes of the "Forces nouvelles" and by the UN, in order to go and declare the results and what is worse, at the campaign headquarters of one of the candidates. All this, on French TV… I do not understand this hurry and we see today that it was really rude. This appears as something surreal and a too rude, too obvious... I told the Ambassador of the United States that it was not a subtle way. One can have preferences, but you have to act in a subtle and responsible way. You cannot show and make people understand that our institutions are useless, fifty years after our independence was declared, show that the Constitutional Council is useless. Nevertheless, all of our institutions are made on the same pattern as similar institutions in France and in the United States. The validation, by the Supreme Court of the United States, of the first election of President Bush, is part of this reality. Nobody else, no other State protested against the validation of Mr. Bush by the Supreme Court. In France, there has been some non validations against Ms. Ségolène Royal, I do not have precise information on that, but that is the role of Constitutional Council in France. Why would it be the role of a Representative of the General Secretary of the United Nations in Côte d'Ivoire? Simply, you always think that our sovereignty has to be affected, that you should always put pressure on us and that, we cannot accept. We formed our government. Maybe you will come and try to step on us, chase us away from Côte d'Ivoire, and embark upon a purification process so that there is a Côte d'Ivoire as Mr. Sarkozy and American authorities want it to be. We hold our ground, the law is on our side, and we cannot accept a sovereign country, member of the United Nations, to be treated by a civil servant of the Unites States under the request of two state capitals, Paris and Washington.
    The western media state that the international community is putting pressure on Laurent Gbagbo and his staff. What stands for the international community? Russia has a slightly divergent stance as well as numerous others countries. Does an international media community exist, the one which sets the tone in the international media, which shapes the global public opinion? Only this international media community would be important?
    You are right. In this case, Russia adopted a very clear position. First of all, there was no presidential statement in New York, as Susan Rice, who currently chairs the Security Council for the USA, had expected. There was a press communiqué, which has not the same meaning and impact…And even the content of this press communiqué was discussed for a few days, which is very hardly the case. Finally, following the manipulation by the French President during the meeting of the ECOWAS, Russia allowed the release of this press communiqué, by principle, but did not agree and maintained his stance regarding the sovereignty of Côte d'Ivoire – saying that the Unites Nations are not commissioned to state results while presidential elections in a sovereign country. We met the Russian Representative after that and that does not mean Russia agreed with the decision. China, also, took a very clear stance. The Chinese government released a communiqué saying that the law has to prevail, institutions should be respected and that the political dialog should take place. That is the meaning of the Chinese communiqué. You are right to say that China, Russia and even South Africa, because that stance was not similar the ECOWAS' nor the African Union's opinion…but also Angola, Libya and CEN-SAD are very clear on that. Simply, what makes the difference, as you say, it is the media buzz: to make people believe, via the media, that President Gbagbo is isolated. The "buzz" was created but they did not go all the way because they were expecting the population to go out in the streets, saying that Laurent Gbagbo had lost and asks for his withdrawal, as the provisory results were declared in an illegal and incredible manner. Everything remained quiet because the President of the Republic has Côte d'Ivoire going for him and with him. He has got the military, the police, the gendarmerie and the population of Côte d'Ivoire. This is the reality of the field. Despite the media, it is not easy to take a country, otherwise than by force. All that they can do now is to come and invade Côte d'Ivoire and put Ouattara on top. Even after doing so, they will not be sure that Mr Ouattara can govern. Thus, you are right when you state that there is a kind of very strong media campaign, led by two capitals mainly, Paris and Washington, others behaving like opportunistic followers.
    You mentioned some States, that the Pope met President Gbagbo by calling him with this title: does it mean the Vatican acknowledges the President Gbagbo?
    Yes. Although it did not make any statement yet, the Vatican is very reticent to do so. Some countries are guarded about that but play their usual neutral part, such as Switzerland. What I can tell you is - make the difference between president Gbagbo and the powers that want to impose Mr Ouattara – we want to install peace in Côte d'Ivoire and they want to impose somebody on top in order to take advantage of this, because they are members of networks, networks of interests. They want to interfere in the affairs of Côte d'Ivoire, they want to make Côte d'Ivoire a trust territory in order to better control of our wealth. That is the difference between us and them. They do not care about the victims of a conflict that they are currently encouraging. They have started destabilizing and stopped being peacemakers. They use the United Nations to destabilize Côte d'Ivoire. What is happening is very worrying. The United Nations are destabilizing a country whereas the role of United Nations, its mission, is to be a peace maker. It is a very, very serious breach of duty.
    This is the problem of global governance. These are permanent member states of the Security Council, with very important responsibilities, to bring back peace in the world, and, on the contrary, they use the United Nations to their own benefit for a matter of interests. No matter what can happen later. You can see that we were compelled to organize these elections without a demilitarization of the North! Can you imagine organizing elections in a region of Côte d'Ivoire where there are rebels about to fight? That is what happened. In late March, in my speech at the UN, I was Ambassador to New York, I and Mr Choi at that time did ask for reunification before the elections. France and United States refused and told us to run elections under these circumstances. I told them that elections represented a dogma for them, whereas we are looking for peace and not elections for elections. Today, here are the results: elections took place and the country is blocked. That is a failure for France and the United States. And they are responsible for the current situation in Côte d'Ivoire and for the current status quo. They have the capacity to manage the world properly. There is a problem of governance within the Security Council, especially France and United States, which brings parts of the world to a point of no return. It is so great to talk about good governance but global governance is unmanageable today. These days, France has no African policy. France only hits from time to time, just like in Côte d'Ivoire, by using some networks, which is a shame.
    Two main ideas come forward through the conversation we just had. First of all, we attempted to carry out elections in a sovereign State, despite the fact that a fair share of this sovereign state's territory is controlled by armed militia….
    Yes.
    Second of all, we spoke of the domain of Globale governance, which makes me want to ask you a more personnal question : this problem had already been raised at the time of the War in Irak, yet eventually nothing has been done for the past seven years…..
    You are right, nothing has been done for the past seven years. It actually coincides with the start of the Côte d'Ivoire crisis in 2002. If you were to remember that at first it was the United Nations which were tasked with solving the problem in Côte d'Ivoire and insteaded of bringing peace in Côte d'Ivoire, France, following the Marcoussis Agreemments, had the Agreement endorsed by the United Nations and has continuously attempted to eject President Gbagbo instead of solving the problem of peace and reconciliation of Côte d'Ivoire. Consecutively we signed the Ouagadougou Agreements (APO).
    We had had to hope, taking into account the mobilization by the Ivoirians and the help of President Compaoré, that elections would be held after the reunification. It was what was established in the Ouagadougou political agreements: the elections were to be held two month after the disarmament and reunification. Yet the United Nation, through France and the United-States, applied pressure by saying that President Gbagbo does not which to take part in elections and that yet it is possible to hold them now, etc….. Since in New York it is France which is at the source of the Côte d'Ivoire resolution project. Even though President Gbagbo objected, they kept on and imposed that elections be held before the disarmament of the North and the reunification.
    There; by manipulation the United Nations, the ECOWAS et the African Union we obtain total failure in the case of Côte d'Ivoire and this raises the problem of Global governance. There are no objectives, there is no ideal of peace, there are only interest networks which matter this results in what we can witness today in Cote d'Ivoire, which in this case means a country spoiled by France and the United-Sates. They despise the institutions that Cote d'Ivoire has established which she has modelled on similar French and Northern American institutions, and who have already given their ruling such as in the elections of Mister Bush versus Mister Al Gore, and for which no one had a saying in it because it falls under the question of sovereignty.
    Yet when its the case of Côte d'Ivoire, because it is a small country, maybe they thing that President Gbagbo is not within their network ? Maybe they thing that he must be ejected and grossly scorn some of the major principals which drive this world, meaning State sovereignty and the right of nations to self-determination ? It is outrageous that President Sarkozy and US and French Ambassadors intervene in such a disgraceful manner, laking finesse, in the institution sof a sovereign country. At the time that I am speaking to you, the US Ambassador is attempting to get in direct contact with the television network General manager (RTI) and other General managers. He does not follow the proper traditional diplomatic channels, meaning the targeted Minister or the Foreign Affaires Minister. He acts as if he is on territory with no leader and we are being re-colonized, fifty years after our independence.
    In a territory with no leaders, in other times, we would have called this an act of war…
    Yes it is an act of war. Taking into account that there has been no affront, certain things may be tolerated….. for now.
    In order to posses the keys of the full understanding of what may happen, maybe, in the coming days: we can read on the Internet messages explaining that your opposition may stage the sending of battalions of children in front, behind, the armed rebel forces, in order to possibly create mayhem in Abidjan and forced the Army in to reacting in front of the TV cameras to show the global viewers that President Gbagbo's Army are combating children….. What is your opinion on this ?
    We are on the ground, I do not think that we may reach such levels. If they were to reach that level, you would be there to judge, this is already a global matter. Wanting to put children forward in front of the Ivoirian Army, let them take the responsibility. On our side, we would do all that is needed not reach such a situation. These are not classic methods of power wars.
    Eventually, Pau Collier, professor at Oxford University, underlines that the Western world considers that its model of Democracy may be duplicated in other territories which do no possess the same culture or the same raised population issues. None the less, they consider that we are continuously being wrong. Doesn't this crisis raise such problem ?
    Yes. We could have accepted this fact and we accept it such as it is. But when we work following of sole interests, we scorn the western model. The example of Côte d'Ivoire is plain and simple. There are institutions, the Electoral Commission chairs in a collegial manner and in consensus, but those who advocate the democratic model step out of the path of law when the functioning of the institutions does not suite them anymore. They bring with them the independent Electoral Commission in one of the candidates' campaign headquarters. It is unbelievable! It is the first time in the world that it happens! Afterwards, the Constitutional Council arbitration was challenged, where in their own democracy it is what was done. Even when you embrace their model, they act accordingly to their interests. Eventually, they do not have any ideal nor model. The public opinion is very strong in their countries and they have to respect their country's democratic model. But in smaller countries, I believe that their model is dictatorship It is why I raise the issue of global governance which is totally adrift today, because of the United-States, in the case of Côte d'Ivoire.

    Source:
    Exclusive interview with Alcide Djédjé, Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Republic of Côte d
     
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