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A man beheads his wife in Buffalo, NY

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    A woman who was beheaded near Buffalo, New York -- allegedly by her husband -- may have been on the phone with her sister when she was killed.

    Muzzammil Hassan has been charged with second-degree murder in the death of his wife, Aasiya Zubair Hassan.

    Asma Firfirey of suburban Cape Town, South Africa, told the Afrikaans newspaper Die Burger that she was on the phone with her sister, Aasiya Zubair Hassan, last week when she heard Hassan tell her husband to calm down. She said she heard Hassan say the two could talk about their impending divorce the following day.

    Then she heard something that sounded like her sister struggling to breathe, she said.

    "I can only imagine how scared and emotional she must have been before she died," Firfirey said in the interview, reported in English by South Africa's News 24.

    Police have charged Hassan's husband, Muzzammil Hassan, with second-degree, or intentional, murder in the death of his wife, according to the Erie County District Attorney's Office.

    Her decapitated body was found at the offices of Bridges TV, the television network where Muzzammil Hassan was chief executive officer and Aasiya Hassan was general manager.

    Hassan told Orchard Park police his wife was dead, led officers to her body and was arrested Thursday, said Erie County District Attorney Frank Sedita III. He is scheduled to appear in court Wednesday.

    A Buffalo attorney told CNN on Tuesday that he expects to represent Hassan but declined further comment, saying details had not yet been worked out.

    Hassan came to America from Pakistan 25 years ago and became a successful banker, but he and his wife were troubled by the negative perception of Muslims, Voice of America reported in 2004.

    Speaking in December 2004, Hassan said his wife, then pregnant, was worried about that perception and "felt there should be an American Muslim media where her kids could grow up feeling really strong about their identity as an American Muslim."

    "So she came up with the idea and turned to me and said, 'Why don't you do it?' " he said. "And I was like, I have no clue about television. I'm a banker. ... And her comment was, 'You have an MBA. Why don't you write a business plan?' "

    Bridges TV began as a television network for Muslim-Americans, aimed at overcoming the negative stereotypes associated with the religion.

    "There should be a Muslim media," Muzzammil Hassan told VOA, "so that Muslim children growing up in America grow up with the self-confidence and high self-esteem about their identity both as Americans and as Muslims."

    In the past few years, according to a former employee who asked not to be named for fear of retribution, Bridges TV transformed itself into more of a cross-cultural network seeking to bridge the gap between all cultures. Most of their employees were not Muslim, the former employee said, and Muzzammil Hassan himself was not devout.

    Aasiya Hassan filed for divorce February 6, police said, and Muzzammil Hassan was served with divorce papers at the station. That night, he showed up at the couple's home, she notified authorities and he was served with a restraining order.

    Police are not commenting on details of the crime, except to say the woman's body did not appear to have been moved. They also would not divulge what Muzzammil Hassan told police or the suspected motive. The law firm representing Aasiya Hassan refused to comment, only confirming that she had filed for divorce.

    Benz told CNN on Tuesday that police had responded to several domestic violence calls at the couple's address, but no one was arrested.

    Firfirey, as well as a Pakistani woman identifying herself as another of Aasiya Hassan's sisters, characterized her as living in fear.

    Firfirey said the last time she saw her sister was in May 2008, when she visited South Africa. When she arrived, she was badly injured, and Firfirey's family paid the equivalent of about $3,000 for her to be treated, she said.

    Aasiya Hassan returned to America, she said, because she wanted to complete her MBA degree and "didn't want to leave her children with that monster." She said she calls Muzzammil Hassan "the fat man with evil eyes."

    Aasiya Hassan would have graduated March 6, Firfirey said.

    A woman in Pakistan using the name Salma Zubair posted on a blog that she is the sister of "this brutally murdered woman."

    "She lived her 8 years of married life with fear in heart," Zubair wrote. "He had already frightened her enough that she couldn't muster up her guts and leave him, and when she finally did gather that much strength he killed her so brutally. She lived to protect her children from this man and his family and she died doing so."

    She said Aasiya Hassan "had always been a very loving person, not even one person in this world can say a small wrong word about her ... she had always dreamed a life of a happily married family, which she did her best to achieve."

    Both women said they were worried about the couple's children, ages 4 and 6. Firfirey said they were being cared for by a colleague of the couple. Muzzammil Hassan also has two older children from a previous marriage.

    Members of Muzzammil Hassan's family did not return calls from CNN on Monday.

    The former employee told CNN that Aasiya Hassan was popular at the station and was very kind. Muzzammil Hassan was known among employees for having a temper -- he sometimes would yell at and demean his wife, but at other times appeared to be a loving husband and father, the former employee said.

    Bridges TV released a statement Monday saying its staff was "deeply shocked and saddened by the murder of Aasiya Hassan and the subsequent arrest of Muzzammil Hassan. Our deepest condolences and prayers go out to the families of the victim."

    Imam Mohamed Hagmagid Ali, vice president of the Islamic Society of North America, said Aasiya Hassan's death serves "as a wake-up call to call of us, that violence against women is real and cannot be ignored ... the Muslim community is not exempt from this issue. We, the Muslim community, need to take a strong stand against domestic violence."

    CNN's Mary Snow contributed to this report.





     
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    Inaonekana hawa majaa, kuchinja watu vichwa ni utamaduni wa kidini. Kaazi kweli kweli.
     
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    Animals , pure animals plain and simple.
     
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    Utamaduni wa kuchinja wanao maaskofu kule Tanzania maana wanawamaliza Maalbino bila huruma.viongozi hao wanatangaza neno la bwana kwa vitendo,hii dini hatari sana.Haleluyaaaa.

    SAHIBA.
     
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    Kichwa kwa kichwa!
     
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    Naona mtu anaandika kwa jazba. Pole sana kwa kufuata dini ya chinja chinja.
     
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    Lest us read some supporting ayat from Koran and authentic islamic books regarding beheading.

    5:33-“The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution (by beheading), or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter;”

    8:12- “I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off.”

    47:4- “Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers (in fight), strike off their heads; at length; then when you have made wide Slaughter among them, carefully tie up the remaining captives”: thereafter (is the time for) either generosity or ransom: Until the war lays down its burdens.”

    9:123: “Oh ye who believe! Murder those of the disbelievers and let them find harshness in you.”

    2:191- “Kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from wherever they drove you out.”

    5: 45-- “We ordained therein for them: “Life for life, eye for eye, nose for nose, ear for ear. Tooth for tooth, and wounds equal for equal.”

    2:193- “Fight them on until there is no more tumult and religion becomes that of Allah”

    9:29- "Fight those who do not believe in God and the last day... and fight People of the Book, (Christian and Jews) who do not accept the religion of truth (Islam) until they pay tribute (Zizziya tax) by hand, being inferior.”

    8:17-It is not ye who Slew them; it is God; when thou threwest a handful of dust, it was not Thy act, but God’s…..” (Allah is a real merciful indeed!)

    How can Islamic Mullahs blatantly hide these authentic Quarnic verses? The above Qur’anic scriptures incited early Muslim Jihadis to behead thousands of non-Muslims and other infidels. These same Quranic verses may still inciting devout/fanatical Muslims of modern days. During the early period of Islam, especially during Islamic expeditions by Marehemu Prophet Muhammad himself while he was in Medina, thousands of infidels were brutally beheaded by the Jihadis.

    Good luck wanyenyekevu.
     
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    I think beheading is islamically as prescribed in the ayat above.
     
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    RESPONDING TO THE KILLING OF AASIYA HASSAN: AN OPEN LETTER TO THE LEADERS OF AMERICAN MUSLIM COMMUNITIES

    By Imam Mohamed Hagmagid Ali
    Executive Director, ADAMS Center
    Vice-President, The Islamic Society of North America
    Source: ISNA.NET - main page

    The Islamic Society of North America (ISNA) is saddened and shocked by the news of the loss of one of our respected sisters, Aasiya Hassan whose life was taken violently. To God we belong and to Him we return (Qur’an 2:156). We pray that she find peace in God’s infinite Mercy, and our prayers and sympathies are with sister Aasiya’s family. Our prayers are also with the Muslim community of Buffalo who have been devastated by the loss of their beloved sister and the shocking nature of this incident.

    This is a wake up call to all of us, that violence against women is real and can not be ignored. It must be addressed collectively by every member of our community. Several times each day in America, a woman is abused or assaulted. Domestic violence is a behavior that knows no boundaries of religion, race, ethnicity, or social status. Domestic violence occurs in every community. The Muslim community is not exempt from this issue. We, the Muslim community, need to take a strong stand against domestic violence. Unfortunately, some of us ignore such problems in our community, wanting to think that it does not occur among Muslims or we downgrade its seriousness.

    I call upon my fellow imams and community leaders to never second-guess a woman who comes to us indicating that she feels her life to be in danger. We should provide support and help to protect the victims of domestic violence by providing for them a safe place and inform them of their rights as well as refer them to social service providers in our areas.

    Marriage is a relationship that should be based on love, mutual respect and kindness. No one who experiences a marriage that is built on these principles would pretend that their life is in danger. We must respond to all complaints or reports of abuse as genuine and we must take appropriate and immediate action to ensure the victim’s safety, as well as the safety of any children that may be involved.

    Women who seek divorce from their spouses because of physical abuse should get full support from the community and should not be viewed as someone who has brought shame to herself or her family. The shame is on the person who committed the act of violence or abuse. Our community needs to take a strong stand against abusive spouses. We should not make it easy for people who are known to abuse to remarry if they have already victimized someone. We should support people who work against domestic violence in our community, whether they are educators, social service providers, community leaders, or other professionals.

    Our community needs to take strong stand against abusive spouses and we should not make it easy for them to remarry if they chose a path of abusive behavior. We should support people who work against domestic violence in our community, whether they are educators or social service providers. As Allah says in the Qur’an: “O ye who believe! Stand firmly for justice, as witnesses to Allah, even as against yourselves, or your parents, or your kin, and whether it be (against) rich or poor: for Allah can best protect both. Follow not the lusts (of your hearts), lest you swerve, and if you distort (justice) or decline to do justice, verily Allah is well-acquainted with all that you do” (4:136).

    The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) never hit a women or child in his life. The purpose of marriage is to bring peace and tranquility between two people, not fear, intimidation, belittling, controlling, or demonizing. Allah the All-Mighty says in the Qur’an: “Among His signs is this, that He created for you mates from among yourselves, that ye may dwell in tranquility with them and He has put love and mercy between your (hearts): verily in that are signs for those who reflect” (30:21),

    We must make it a priority to teach our young men in the community what it means to be a good husband and what the role the husband has as a protector of his family. The husband is not one who terrorizes or does harm and jeopardizes the safety of his family. At the same time, we must teach our young women not to accept abuse in any way, and to come forward if abuse occurs in the marriage. They must feel that they are able to inform those who are in authority and feel comfortable confiding in the imams and social workers of our communities.

    Community and family members should support a woman in her decision to leave a home where her life is threatened and provide shelter and safety for her. No imam, mosque leader or social worker should suggest that she return to such a relationship and to be patient if she feels the relationship is abusive. Rather they should help and empower her to stand up for her rights and to be able to make the decision of protecting herself against her abuser without feeling she has done something wrong, regardless of the status of the abuser in the community.

    A man’s position in the community should not affect the imam’s decision to help a woman in need. Many disasters that take place in our community could have been prevented if those being abused were heard. Domestic violence is not a private matter. Any one who abuses their spouse should know that their business becomes the business of the community and it is our responsibility to do something about it. She needs to tell someone and seek advice and protection.

    Community leaders should also be aware that those who isolate their spouses are more likely to also be physically abusive, as isolation is in its own way a form of abuse. Some of the abusers use the abuse itself to silence the women, by telling her “If you tell people I abused you, think how people will see you, a well-known person being abused. You should keep it private.”

    Therefore, to our sisters, we say: your honor is to live a dignified life, not to put on the face that others want to see. The way that we measure the best people among us in the community is to see how they treat their families. It is not about how much money one makes, or how much involvement they have in the community, or the name they make for themselves. Prophet Muhammed (peace be upon him) said, “The best among you are those who are best to their families.”

    It was a comfort for me to see a group of imams in our local community, as well as in the MANA conference signing a declaration promising to eradicate domestic violence in our community. Healthy marriages should be part of a curriculum within our youth programs, MSA conferences, and seminars as well as part of our adult programs in our masajid and in our khutbahs.

    The Islamic Society of North America has done many training workshops for imams on combating domestic violence, as has the Islamic Social Service Associate and Peaceful Families Project. Organizations, such as FAITH Social Services in Herndon, Virginia, serve survivors of domestic violence. All of these organizations can serve as resources for those who seek to know more about the issues of domestic violence.

    Faith Trust Institute, one of the largest interfaith organizations, with Peaceful Families Project, has produced a DVD in which many scholars come together to address this issue. I call on my fellow imams and social workers to use this DVD for training others on the issues of domestic violence. (For information, go to the website: Faith Trust Institute - Home). For more information, or to access resources and materials about domestic violence, please visit Peaceful Families Project: Advocating Against Domestic Violence Among Muslims.

    In conclusion, Allah says in the Qur’an “O my son! Establish regular prayer, enjoin what is just, and forbid what is wrong; and bear with patient constancy whatever betide thee; for this is firmness (of purpose) in (the conduct of) affairs” (31:17). Let us pray that Allah will help us to stand for what is right and leave what is evil and to promote healthy marriages and peaceful family environments. Let us work together to prevent domestic violence and abuse and especially, violence against women.
     
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    Why did he behead his wife? Is beheading islamically or Muhammadically act?
     
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    No fool is him his act,he is crazy. think twice

    SAHIBA.
     
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    That guy is guilty of murder.

    The teachings of Islam should be taken from the correct sources – the Qur’ân and the Sunnah.

    There are false practices to be found in some Muslim societies are only but these are alien to the Islamic legal injunctions. Such practices cannot in any way be attributed to Islam. You should know that the Muslim scholars’ objective is to remove these unsavory regional customs and steer Muslim societies towards the true teachings of Islam.

    The mistakes of Muslim people should not be attributed to Islam. You know from history that the massacres of the Native Americans and the slavery of Africans should not be attributed to Christianity, even though these atrocities were carried out by beople who called themselves Christians.

    The events you have mentioned are unlawful and the one who commits such crimes is a criminal for illegally killing someone.

    Forget not: Rwanda massacres,Kibwetere and others
     
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    Unauliza jawabu hivi hapa Tz watu hawachinjani ,huko marekani hawapigani risasi ,Tatizo mnachanganya mambo hamjui mlitendalo.

    "If any one comes to me and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be my disciple." (Lu 14:26) Je wewe unayatekeleza hayo huyo ndie Jesus alieninginizwa kwenye mti,mkiambiwa yule sie Jesus ,jesus hakuwekwa msalabani mnaleta vya kuleta sasa hayo hapo ndio maneno ya yule mnaemfuata ambae sie ,hivi mnajua yule alietundikwa msalabani anaitwa nani ?Jina lipo ,ila nalihifazi ili nione kama yupo kati yenu anaelijua ,maana ndie mnaemfuata ndio maana yake.

    I.e., Christians even are below animals because most of them love their offspring. In contrast with Christians, i.e. those who address and worship Satan as "god", respectively, "god's son", the most marsupials and mammals are able to love their parents. Hating even their parents turn Christians morally out to be below most animals. Without the love of the parents to their offspring, life would perish. Christianity is the attempt at destroying human's social existence that is based on good faith, whereas Christianity is based on the reverse: on perfidy. Christian dastards want to replace good faith by perfidy and foul play. Hereby Christianity turns out as warfare on human's social existence.

    "But bring here those enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, and slay them before me" (Lu 19.27).

    This is what would had happened if the born loser and king of the loser would had won on the Eve before Passover, i.e. if he would had acceded to the throne of Israel and would had become "King of Israel" (Joh 12:13) in place of acceding to the gibbet or cross... I.e. ruthless lust for powers and unscrupulous delusion of grandeur is carried out below the curtain or behind the mask of "love", "humbleness" and "modesty"...

    That is how he fancies his regency when this wretched and very, very bad loser would have won the trial of strength of becoming "King of Israel", on Palm-Sunday. However, instead of acceding to the throne of Israel, the impostor was doomed to accede to the gallows or cross. Christian sect is his inveterate revenge on humankind for his defeat on Palm Sunday: instead of turning out as "king of Israel" and hereby as the predicted "Messiah" (Greek: "Christos") he turned out as death penalty convict and as accursed one of god (see: De 21:23). That is Satan's, his (Jesus) Christ's and all their Christians' "martyrdom" (in delirium)...!

    Behind the mask that shall trap the prey (thieves' cant: "sheep") Christian criminals want to make their crimes unassailable (perfect). Instigation of Christianity is Jesus revenge on humankind for his defeat on the Eve of Passover when he wretchedly failed to turn out as predicted Messiah (Greek: Christos), i.e. as "King of Israel" (Joh 12:13) and disgracefully became condemned death penalty. "Vicarious suffering" and "vicarious atonement" shall cant the utmost disgrace of an impostor and death penalty convict wanting to pose as "son of god"... This is Satan and his Anointed One (Greek: Christos') "martyrdom" (in delirium)... There is no criminality like Christianity!

    "But as for these enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them-bring them here and slaughter them in my presence.'" (Lu 19:27).



    If heaven is a place where Christians are going to, I prefer to go to hell.
     
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    CHUKI ikimzidia mwanadamu huwa mbaya sana, kuna watu wakiona jambo baya limemgusa muislam ama Uislam na wakati mwingine hata asiekuwa muislam lakini jina lake likawa ni la kiislam basi watapiga kalele nyingi za chuki na kashfa za matusi. hebu ondosheni hizo chuki zenu dhidi ya Uislam.

    Siwezi kupata picha ni jinsi gani kashfa zingetolewa kama Yule aliyekutwa na viungo vya Albino angekuwa na jina la kiislam achilia mbali kuwa muislam ama kiongozi wa kiislam. ila kwa kuwa ni ASKOFU ah kelele hamna watu naongea kama vile mhusika hana dini wala hahusiani na Ukristo kabisa.
     
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    Tatizo la hawa ni kuwa jambo akifanya Muislamu basi hulihusisha na Dini ya Kiislamu kuwa ndio mafundisho yake ,wanashindwa kuelewa kabisa juu ya inviduals habits.Na haitoshi wanenda moja kwa moja hadi kwa Mtume Muhammad SAW na kuvuka mipaka kabisa hadi kwa ALLAH ,baadhi ya watu hawa hawajui kuheshimu.

    Ila usiwastaajbie sana kwani dini yao inaongozwa na shetani si unawaona wamejipachikia Miungu mitatu. Halafu pale mwisho nimeweka uthibitisho wa pale Shetani alipomkabidhi Yesu makaburasha ni vituko vitupu.

    Lu 24:25 AV

    25 Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken…



    Lu 4:6 RSV
    6. and (Satan) said to him (Jesus), "To you I will give all this authority and their glory; for it has been delivered to me, and I give it to which I will.

    Mt 11:27 RSV

    27. All things have been delivered to me by my Father (god); and no one knows the Son (Jesus) except the Father (god), and no one knows the Father except the Son and any one to whom the Son chooses to reveal him

    Joh 3: 35 RSV
    35. the Father loves the Son, and has given all things into his hand.

    Sasa hapo mkiambiwa mnamfuata shetani mnapiga makelele ,unaona huo mtiririko hapo juu ,Shetani amemkabidhi makaburasha jamaa ambae nae anawahutubia watu .vile alivyopewa.

    (Christian jargon: Jesus "Christ" ) gives himself the color of "god" as Satan does. Here, we have the same what Jesus purports:

    Firstly: The authority is delivered to him.

    Secondly: He can pass it on to whom he likes to do so without god's consent.

    Thirdly: Satan is making worshipers in the same way (Satan name: Jesus "Christ" ) does, namely, by promising authority, he allegedly is keeping.

    These facts make Christian sect a kind of Satanism au uwongo jamani ?
     
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    Mt 10, 34 – 36 RSV 34 "Do not think that I have come to bring peace on earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a sword.

    35. For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law;

    36. and a man's foes will be those of his own household.

    Could Satan ever better declare war on god and the world? However Satan would proceed in order to accomplish that program? At first, he would worm his way into his victims’ confidence that everything he wants to achieve allegedly is about “brotherly love”, “truths”, “charities”, “commitment to martyrdom” and “self-sacrifice” etc. Because according to the views of his own, Satan does suffer because of the malice of his but because of god’s “malice” and his “self-sacrifice” for others…

    Therefore, Satan would work out some publicity campaign providing sham-evidence to his colors. However, there is one matter Satan would never do but the Christian foul mouths are convinced he would do whatever happens: I am Satan, the most deceiver, please quickly join my sect… The Christian foul mouths conspicuously pretend being convinced that much that Satan is used to doing so that they even murder and getting murdered for that view (of Satan)… What else Satan ever would vomit out of his jaw?

    ´The answer: That he is associate of the god, the real god allegedly has retired and he is god in chief – and everybody who wants to apply to the god only can apply through him etc… In this manner, Satan would put himself in place of god and make all individuals submit to his will, while the latter are fooling themselves serving the god…

    That is what Satan would do according to (Christian jargon: Jesus "Christ" ) and the Christian foul mouths’ doctrines, respectively according to the consequences of their doctrines.

    Tusidanganyane hakuna mungu kwenye ukiristo. Maana ukiangalia mfumo wao unaanzia kwa pope mijivyeo kibao inashuka mpaka kufikia huko vijijini mfumo ambao haujulikani umetokea wapi.Na watueleze hapa mfumo huu wameupata wapi .

    Jesus’ or Satan’s deceits work like a snowball system, as most deceits do. That depravity means that each Christian frog or rouge in frock can make himself under slaves by passing on brainwashing or programming on human robots (“believers”) that hereby become subservient to him, at first. E.g., each little spiteful devil, Pardon, schmuck of priest in the tiniest village is reputed as “reverend” and thus star, even disparaged by the superior slaveholder of the Mafia’s hierarchy….If that creeps n’ crook or fool full of spoof would be undisguised they usually would not succeed in getting touched by women even not by means of pincers, now all of a sudden are “reverend”, “holy father” etc. · Those are the reason for feeling called to do the job of a Christian Mafioso.
     
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    To think beheading a wife is islamic or muhammadan is both archaic way of thinking, and those who harbour those sentiments needs special prayers. Human weaknesses in the part of the husband is to blame for this cruelty same way as christian priest in Tanzania who was found in possession of human remains(albino body-parts). Thats neither nor christianity nor muslim unless someone has a hidden sentiment and frustrations he want to relieve off.
     
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    There is a need to distinguish a true, sane and pyschologically sound person from mad people. Whoever kills his wife, or wife killing her husband gets no justification from whatever religious motivations. It must be remembered that there are lots of disturbed people walking streets everyday, everywhere. Connecting actions of mad people to any religion is simply wrong and misguiding.
     
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    I wish nigekuwa na quran ya kikwetu ningeielewa niwatwishe mawe wanaoipinga
     
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