Topic: Kenyan Security Minister George Saitoti Reported Killed

Minister Saitoti and Ass Minister Orwa Ojode Feared Dead in Helicopter Crash







Internal Security assistant minister Orwa Ojode

NAIROBI, Kenya: Four people have been killed after a police helicopter crashed at Kibiku forest within Ngong.Witnesses at the scene said the chopper caught fire on impact.

Unconfirmed reports said top government officials may have been on board the police chopper.

The police helicopters are usually used by government officials.

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Capital News » 4 dead in Kenya police helicopter crash



By NATION REPORTER
Posted Sunday, June 10 2012 at 10:03

Kenya's Internal Security ministerProf George Saitoti, his deputy Orwa Ojode and five others are feared dead when a Police chopper crashed in Kibiku area in Ngong forest at 9am on Sunday, according to police sources.

The two were heading to Orwa Ojode's Ndhiwa Constituency for a fundraising.

Other passengers on board were the ministers' bodyguards and two pilots

It's exactly four years when a chopper carrying MPs Kipkalya Kones and Lorna Laboso crashed in Narok.

According to an eye witness, the helicopter was seen diving from the sky and full of smoke before crushing and exploding into flames.

"The Chopper was filled with smoke before it crashed. I heard two explosions as it went up in flames," said Rose Kwamboka.

http://www.nation.co.ke/News/Ministe...z/-/index.html

1. Captain Nancy Gituanja

2. Captain Luke Oyugi

3. Inspector Joshua Tonkei

4. Sergeant Thomas Murimi

5. Orwa Ojode

6. George Saitoti

Comments za bwana/bib tume ya katiba imenifanya nielewe kwanini waislam wanaichukia sana sheria ya Ugaidi!

By tume ya katiba

"sitalala hadi nihakikishe nimewasambaratisha alshabab wote"- prof. Saitoti

kumbe hajui mungu muumba amepanga nini, kachomeka na moto wa ndege kuliko ndafu, hata fuvu halijapatikana! Na bado huu ni just moto wa duniani bado moto wa muumba wa mbingu!

Tume ya katiba sorry to say this! But your comment shows how silly you are! I know u can be better than this, try harder!

By Bulesi

Hawa jamaa wapiganaji wa kisomali walishasema kuwa watawaliza waKenya siku za hivi karibuni; if their threat is to be believed worse is to come soon!!!

AS ni kundi linalodidimia.....walianza vita ambavyo hawakuweza kuhimidi hadi mwisho na kuaanza kulilia diaspora na vyombo vya habari kama aljazera wawape coverage ili wabaki na usemi.

By FJM

Delta4, with due respect, ungeweza kumuelewesha aliyeuliza kuhusu that large sum of money bila kuegemea ukuta wa TZ/Kenya. Africa nzima including Kenya na Tanzania tuna tatizo la hela nyingi kuwa 'outside the official channel' in the sense that Taxation is out of the equation. Iwe church or whatever fundraising lazima tukubali kuna mambo hatujayafanyia kazi when it comes to handling money.

About speculation za vifo, I guantee you sio tu wa-tz hapa JF wanao-speculate, hii iko Tanzania kama ambavyo iko Kenya. Plus it happens everywhere especially when it is an accident involvig a publc figure. Iko duniani kote, Princess Diana bado watu wana-speculate, JFK etc. Na hata uchunguzi wa polisi ukikamilika bado certain individuals wanaweza kuendelea na speculation. Ndiyo ukweli wa mwanadamu.

FJM bwana..FJM, kuwa realistic kiasi tu....theres nothing controversial in this incident. Bwana...ah...hii ilikuwa nakala chafu, hehe. Seriously speaking what has befallen Kenya is sad and outside JF non is speculating assasinations, the public mood is so calm and people in mourning. Kiasi respect during this period and let us burry our own. Not much to ask and tell your countrymen to hold there horses in this matter. You see Its not a purely tanzanian forum but by next week it will be if the current trend ensues.lol. Patience jirani, siku saba tu:-D

By Tume ya katiba

Utanielewa tu mkuu wangu,

Kimsingi hawa viongozi wanapokuwa madarakani hufikili wao ndio kila kitu, hujisahau kabisa kuwa maisha ya ulimwengu ni kama safari tu, Binafsi nimependezwa na jinsi alivyochomeka kwa kuwa ndivyo yanayotokea kule somalia, wanawake, watoto na watu wasio na hatia wanauwawa kila kukicha kwa kisingizio cha alshabab kumbe wana sababu zao za kimaslah.

Hivi Al Shabaab ni chama cha siasa, ni jeshi au?

Lengo lao ni lipi?

Hivi mkakati wao wa kufikia lengo lao ni upi?

Mkakati huo una uhalali upi, au unapata uhalali wake kutoka wapi?

Maeneo ambayo wana uhalali wa kufanya harakati zao ni maeneo gani? Nchi yoyote? Kenya inaingiaje?

By cacico

Tume ya katiba sorry to say this! But your comment shows how silly you are! I know u can be better than this, try harder!

Mkuu wangu cacico, tatizo lenu kubwa mnategemea bbc au idhaa ya ujerumani kupata taarifa ya yanayoendelea Somalia, wengi wenu hamuyajui yanayotokea, hawa wanajeshi wanafanya vitendo vya udhalilishaji wa hali ya juu kwa kisingizio cha kutafuta hao alshabab.

Ukweli ni kwamba somalia ni nchi imekaa vyema sana kivita pia inasemekana wana kiwango kikubwa sana cha mafuta, kinachoendelea kule hakisemwi kabisa kutokana na vyanzo vingi vya habari tunavyovi=tegemea kuwa ndio hao wenye maslah. PressTV - Kenyan airstrikes kill 11 civilians in Somalia

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/africa...954819445.html

Kila la kheri mkuu wangu.

he did a good job against them,

That is why I have a BIG reservation with Muslim GOD aka ALLAH!

Hivi Hata angekuwa JK God forbid angewaacha Al Shabab wawa terrorise Watanzania? I'm praying Kenyans will come out strong and smoke Al Shabab wherever they are. Then Al Shabab and they cronies will learn that Kafir they are powerful than "Allah"

By Tume ya katiba

Utanielewa tu mkuu wangu,

Kimsingi hawa viongozi wanapokuwa madarakani hufikili wao ndio kila kitu, hujisahau kabisa kuwa maisha ya ulimwengu ni kama safari tu, Binafsi nimependezwa na jinsi alivyochomeka kwa kuwa ndivyo yanayotokea kule somalia, wanawake, watoto na watu wasio na hatia wanauwawa kila kukicha kwa kisingizio cha alshabab kumbe wana sababu zao za kimaslah.

Okay, kidogo nikuelewe vibaya, ila kuhusu swala la Kenya kuwa somalia nadhani wako kule sababu ya maslahi ya kiusalama ya wakenya ambayo yamewekwa mashakani na alshababu. au kunamaslahi tofauti?

By FJM

Delta4, with due respect, ungeweza kumuelewesha aliyeuliza kuhusu that large sum of money bila kuegemea ukuta wa TZ/Kenya. Africa nzima including Kenya na Tanzania tuna tatizo la hela nyingi kuwa 'outside the official channel' in the sense that Taxation is out of the equation. Iwe church or whatever fundraising lazima tukubali kuna mambo hatujayafanyia kazi when it comes to handling money.

About speculation za vifo, I guantee you sio tu wa-tz hapa JF wanao-speculate, hii iko Tanzania kama ambavyo iko Kenya. Plus it happens everywhere especially when it is an accident involvig a publc figure. Iko duniani kote, Princess Diana bado watu wana-speculate, JFK etc. Na hata uchunguzi wa polisi ukikamilika bado certain individuals wanaweza kuendelea na speculation. Ndiyo ukweli wa mwanadamu.

Aliyekuwa mwanzilishi wa taifa la Kenya, Mzee Jomo Kenyatta alikuja na mwito wa "HARAMBEE" ambao haukuwa na maana nyingine ila watu kuja pamoja kuvuta pamoja rasilimali (sio fulusi pekee) na nguvu kujenga taifa. Siku hizi ndio mwito HARAMBEE/mchango wa fedha umeegemea sana upande wa fulusi kuliko msaada wa umoja. Viongozi walikua njiani kuenda kuchangisha pesa katika kanisa moja hapo Ndhiwa. Ni kitu ambacho kimefanywa nchini kwa muda mrefu na viongozi wa serikalini katika ngazi za juu, makanisa, na makundi binafsi.
Itakuwa vigumu kufanya upambanuzi kuhusu channel za hundi kama hizo zilizounguzwa. Siku hizi ni kama kawaida watu kupatikana na hundi.

By Tume ya katiba

Utanielewa tu mkuu wangu,

Kimsingi hawa viongozi wanapokuwa madarakani hufikili wao ndio kila kitu, hujisahau kabisa kuwa maisha ya ulimwengu ni kama safari tu, Binafsi nimependezwa na jinsi alivyochomeka kwa kuwa ndivyo yanayotokea kule somalia, wanawake, watoto na watu wasio na hatia wanauwawa kila kukicha kwa kisingizio cha alshabab kumbe wana sababu zao za kimaslah.

Sijakupata kabisa nimesoma between the line ila naona natoka kapa

By Tume ya katiba

"Sitalala hadi nihakikishe nimewasambaratisha alshabab wote"- Prof. Saitoti

Kumbe hajui mungu muumba amepanga nini, kachomeka na moto wa ndege kuliko ndafu, hata fuvu halijapatikana! na bado huu ni just moto wa duniani bado moto wa muumba wa mbingu!

Kwa iyo kumbe kuna uhusiano kati ya alshaabab na uislam??nimeamini kuwa U AMSHO ni tawi la alshaabab kwa mlolongo wa visa na matukio.

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By FJM

Delta4, with due respect, ungeweza kumuelewesha aliyeuliza kuhusu that large sum of money bila kuegemea ukuta wa TZ/Kenya. Africa nzima including Kenya na Tanzania tuna tatizo la hela nyingi kuwa 'outside the official channel' in the sense that Taxation is out of the equation. Iwe church or whatever fundraising lazima tukubali kuna mambo hatujayafanyia kazi when it comes to handling money.

About speculation za vifo, I guantee you sio tu wa-tz hapa JF wanao-speculate, hii iko Tanzania kama ambavyo iko Kenya. Plus it happens everywhere especially when it is an accident involvig a publc figure. Iko duniani kote, Princess Diana bado watu wana-speculate, JFK etc. Na hata uchunguzi wa polisi ukikamilika bado certain individuals wanaweza kuendelea na speculation. Ndiyo ukweli wa mwanadamu.

FJM - my apologies Kaka. And you are right. But there is a style of debate here that just gets the goat up. While any normal adult and well-balanced person knows there is a season for all things.

In Kenya, there is a huge shock at the death of these two political leaders, and not because of their popularity, tribe nor even achievements. It would seem the Nation is under siege, and there is real possibility of public despondence growing critical mass if we allow it - not because any of the many indicators of National Growth are persistently pessimistic. If our National Leadership does not re-group and show a Unity of National Purpose at this time, public despondency is real possibility - people will start jumping at shadows, and get paranoid around each other. So that we hold on to this public show of shared national grief, of our leadership holding together even if just this once, of our re-focussed attention to our Nationhood and our Patriotism. We can do very well without the sanctimonious expressions made here by some wtz such as Askari Kanzu that lack balance and rationality. That is all really.

Give Kenyans right and space to properly mourn this National Loss, as we shall when you wtz will face your time of national grief (which surely will come some time); and then after that lets return to our usual juvenile sparring in this and other cross-national foras.

Ndo hayo tuu!

By Kabaridi

Aliyekuwa mwanzilishi wa taifa la Kenya, Mzee Jomo Kenyatta alikuja na mwito wa "HARAMBEE" ambao haukuwa na maana nyingine ila watu kuja pamoja kuvuta pamoja rasilimali (sio fulusi pekee) na nguvu kujenga taifa. Siku hizi ndio mwito HARAMBEE/mchango wa fedha umeegemea sana upande wa fulusi kuliko msaada wa umoja. Viongozi walikua njiani kuenda kuchangisha pesa katika kanisa moja hapo Ndhiwa. Ni kitu ambacho kimefanywa nchini kwa muda mrefu na viongozi wa serikalini katika ngazi za juu, makanisa, na makundi binafsi.
Itakuwa vigumu kufanya upambanuzi kuhusu channel za hundi kama hizo zilizounguzwa. Siku hizi ni kama kawaida watu kupatikana na hundi.

Huu mtindo wa kuchangisha umekuwepo Tanzania lakini zaidi kwenye mambo ya harusi. But in the last 2 years tumeanza kuona harambee - Kenyan Style ambapo wanasiasa wanatoa michango sana makanisani, tena hela nyingi sana! There is a bit of un-easiness about it especially from those who do not want to mix politics na siasa. Lakini Kenya imeshakuwa normal.

TUME YA KATIBA, nategemea Usalama wa Taifa wakishirikiana na FBI/CIA wataanza kukutunza kwenye kumbukumbu zao hiyo IP number yako.

Kama si Wasomali kuanza kufanya utekaji watalii huko KENYA, basi sidhani kama Kenya wangeliingia kwenye vita nao. Wamepigana wenyewe kwa wenyewe miaka mingi sana na Kenya ilikuwa kimya.

Najua hata kama wakivamia Sudan leo, Sudan pamoja na Uislaam wao, wataamua kuzipiga.

Kwani IRAN vs IRAQ si wote walikuwa Waislaam? Wanavyouawa Afghanistan kabla ya Bush hajavamia huko, si walikuwa Waislaam kwa Waislaam?

Vita ni mbaya sana na ni kuomba isianze. Ikishaanza basi kumbuka kuwa HAINA MACHO hiyo vita.

Mmh, Al Shabaab jamani, Kenya wanadeal nao haswa, ndio maana kila siku wanazidi kuwachukia

By Delta4

FJM - my apologies Kaka. And you are right. But there is a style of debate here that just gets the goat up. While any normal adult and well-balanced person knows there is a season for all things.

In Kenya, there is a huge shock at the death of these two political leaders, and not because of their popularity, tribe nor even achievements. It would seem the Nation is under siege, and there is real possibility of public despondence growing critical mass if we allow it - not because any of the many indicators of National Growth are persistently pessimistic. If our National Leadership does not re-group and show a Unity of National Purpose at this time, public despondency is real possibility - people will start jumping at shadows, and get paranoid around each other. So that we hold on to this public show of shared national grief, of our leadership holding together even if just this once, of our re-focussed attention to our Nationhood and our Patriotism. We can do very well without the sanctimonious expressions made here by some wtz such as Askari Kanzu that lack balance and rationality. That is all really.

Give Kenyans right and space to properly mourn this National Loss, as we shall when you wtz will face your time of national grief (which surely will come some time); and then after that lets return to our usual juvenile sparring in this and other cross-national foras.

Ndo hayo tuu!

No worries mate. Poleni sana na msiba. Just curious what do you think politicians will do next year 10th June? Watatumia punda kusafiri maana that date will forever remain in the minds of many.

By Tume ya katiba

"Sitalala hadi nihakikishe nimewasambaratisha alshabab wote"- Prof. Saitoti

Kumbe hajui mungu muumba amepanga nini, kachomeka na moto wa ndege kuliko ndafu, hata fuvu halijapatikana! na bado huu ni just moto wa duniani bado moto wa muumba wa mbingu!

Aliyepanga ni Muumba au Al -Shabaab?

Bora niitwe kafir kuliko kumwabudu mungu anayependa ugaidi, mauaji ya kinyama, visasi,kukata viungo vya watu na ujinga

By sikonge

tume ya katiba, nategemea usalama wa taifa wakishirikiana na fbi/cia wataanza kukutunza kwenye kumbukumbu zao hiyo ip number yako.

Kama si wasomali kuanza kufanya utekaji watalii huko kenya, basi sidhani kama kenya wangeliingia kwenye vita nao. Wamepigana wenyewe kwa wenyewe miaka mingi sana na kenya ilikuwa kimya.

Najua hata kama wakivamia sudan leo, sudan pamoja na uislaam wao, wataamua kuzipiga.

Kwani iran vs iraq si wote walikuwa waislaam? Wanavyouawa afghanistan kabla ya bush hajavamia huko, si walikuwa waislaam kwa waislaam?

Vita ni mbaya sana na ni kuomba isianze. Ikishaanza basi kumbuka kuwa haina macho hiyo vita.

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