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      Default Real Problem Between Kagame and Kikwete is Snitching

      As funny as it sounds, that a simple advice from Kikwete could trigger such a big rift, not quite. That's not the issue. The real issue is that, Kikwete has been lobbying the west to indict Kagame at ICC for destabilizing DRC. Many leaders in Nairobi calls Kikwete a snitch !

      Reliable sources in Both Kigali and Nairobi, have hinted at a possible indictment of Kagame at the ICC for supporting M23 which has been orchestrated by Kikwete

      Outburst out of Kikwete's mere advise is just a scapegoat; ICC is the real issue and Kagame henchmen claims that before Kagame is indicted, Kikwete personally, and not Tanzanians must pay a price
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      Isn't it strange that recently Bashir killed our soldiers in Darfur and Kikwete is cosying up to him as if nothing happened. Kagame has not and will never be a threat to Tanzania.

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      If you are innocent then why should you afraid of ICC?

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      From "KAGAME VS FRANCE" to "KAGAME VS TANZANIA"

      ONE ISSUE IS COMMON HERE....!
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      Hizi ni nyepesi-nyepesi za mtaani na unahitaji kua kichaa kuziamini.
      ..."I've got the liquor, the condoms & the broccoli"...

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      Kwahiyo sababu hasa hapa ni JK kwenda kumchongea mwenzie ICC ili ashtakiwe?Hata mimi nilihisi kitu maana nilijiuliza sana inakuwaje Kagame achukie hivi kwasababu ya ushauri tu?Kumbe kulikuwa jambo kubwa zaidi ya hili la ADVICE?
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      I can't image the discussion, I m out.
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      I only offer an opinion someone don't f**k with me . It's important to be a good listener, and that means you shut your mouth and let other jf member talk.

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      Masnitch wangese nyie.....

      ...Kagame must go to ICC like Uhuru & Ruto...
      ... birds of same feathers fly together...

      ..they meet in Nairobi wtf...haituhusuuu....coz they are all victims of ICC....

      ...by the way UHURU b4 election came in Dar es Salaam kuomba support ya JK..leo anatia kiburi & indoors supporting Kagame....HATUJALI NA HATUTISHIKI.....

      ...NA KWA TAARIFA YENU KAGAME TUTAMSHIKISHA ADABU...Kagame muuaji mkubwa sana

      ..Kagame kamuua Hybriamana..

      ..Kagame kamuua Prof. Mwakyusa aliyekuwa mtetezi wa Washtakiwa wa mauaji ya kimbari ya Rwanda ...

      ...Kagame ameua wengi ... leo anatutisha Watz wote... nasema KAGAME WILL SUPRISE...

      ....TUTAMPIGA TUMEANZA NA M23...SOON TUTAMFIKIA. .WAIT...

      ...NA MASNITCH NI NYIE...nyambaf...


      Quote By Nairobian View Post
      As funny as it sounds, that a simple advice from Kikwete could trigger such a big rift, not quite. That's not the issue. The real issue is that, Kikwete has been lobbying the west to indict Kagame at ICC for destabilizing DRC. Many leaders in Nairobi calls Kikwete a snitch !

      Reliable sources in Both Kigali and Nairobi, have hinted at a possible indictment of Kagame at the ICC for supporting M23 which has been orchestrated by Kikwete

      Outburst out of Kikwete's mere advise is just a scapegoat; ICC is the real issue and Kagame henchmen claims that before Kagame is indicted, Kikwete personally, and not Tanzanians must pay a price
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      Ndiyo maana niliuweka uzalendo wangu m.a.t.a.k.o.n.i mwangu maana mimi si mtu wa kukurupuka ni mtu mdadisi mno jambo haliwezi kunipita kulifanyia uchambuzi makini ndio maana hili la Jk na PK niliwaachia akina Saanane na wengineo waonyeshe uzalendo wao mimi nawajua hawa Viongozi walivyo ndio maana nilisita kuungana nao haraka kwenye huu mgogoro.

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      Kagame hana tofauti na iddi amin tumchape tu nia tunayo sababu zipo nyingi

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      Quote By TECH WIZ View Post
      Kwahiyo sababu hasa hapa ni JK kwenda kumchongea mwenzie ICC ili ashtakiwe?Hata mimi nilihisi kitu maana nilijiuliza sana inakuwaje Kagame achukie hivi kwasababu ya ushauri tu?Kumbe kulikuwa jambo kubwa zaidi ya hili la ADVICE?
      Jukwaa hili lianawarundi na warwanda wengi pamoja na wakenya na wao kwa kutunga uongo kumcover rais wao kagame ndiyo kazi yao kwa hiyo hii post ni sehemu ya mango yao hatuogopi wala hatutishiki,

      kagame kama ni msafi anahofia nini kupelekwa icc aache ujinga wake.
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      How do we know for certain the recent attack on our soldiers in Sudan was from the Sudanese militia, there are some who believe the attack was planned by Kagame and his closest ally President Museveni, by implanting their own militia posing as Janjaweed.

      Rumour has it the recent assault on M23 in Congo was a retaliation from the Tanzanian government on what happened in Sudan. In other words it was a clear message we know who done our soldiers in Sudan and if we chose to; we could remove M23 in Congo ourselves.
      JK has no gain in trying to influencing matters that are already on international discussion and awaiting the course of action. There are scores of documentaries already aired by BBC to its audience prior to JK asking for dialogue between the differing perspectives in Rwanda, showing all what is wrong and Kigali’s participation.

      Many of the western governments have now withdrawn their development funds which were aimed for Rwanda, who know what is going on behind the scenes may be JK is being used as an instigator of what is to come from the west.

      The naive in all this is the Kenyan president by picking the wrong side of the feud. However somehow you can understand where he is coming from considering he is also a man of interest in the international court. Even with that on the back of his mind surely President Kenyatta can not support the two dictators bearing in mind Kenya’s ambitions of attaining democratic values of their own and improving the integration of EAC blocks.

      But then Kenyans are known for their opportunism and the current situation favours them economically in the short term by siding with Uganda and Kigali whilst Tanzania is still loitering with the idea of land, whilst Uganda offers less land complications.
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      Another deviating story from the reality. Inavyoonekana Kagame anakamtandao east africa kanakoweza kumtoa yeyote, lakini wabongo nadhani tulishajua mchezo mchafu wa hawa majirani zetu, so we will see who win the game!
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      Nyerere angekua rais, mazungumzo yasingekua marefu hivi/
      ..."I've got the liquor, the condoms & the broccoli"...

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      naomba kujua je? Nikweli unachukua/export meno ya Tembo?
      Hivo viroba vya asubuhi asubuhi ndio vimekutuma uandike hivo?
      ..."I've got the liquor, the condoms & the broccoli"...

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      Mimi nakuwa upande wa kikete,tukutane basi kongo!

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      Masnitch wangese nyie.....

      ...Kagame must go to ICC like Uhuru & Ruto...
      ... birds of same feathers fly together...

      ..they meet in Nairobi wtf...haituhusuuu....coz they are all victims of ICC....

      ...by the way UHURU b4 election came in Dar es Salaam kuomba support ya JK..leo anatia kiburi & indoors supporting Kagame....HATUJALI NA HATUTISHIKI.....

      ...NA KWA TAARIFA YENU KAGAME TUTAMSHIKISHA ADABU...Kagame muuaji mkubwa sana

      ..Kagame kamuua Hybriamana..

      ..Kagame kamuua Prof. Mwakyusa aliyekuwa mtetezi wa Washtakiwa wa mauaji ya kimbari ya Rwanda ...

      ...Kagame ameua wengi ... leo anatutisha Watz wote... nasema KAGAME WILL SUPRISE...

      ....TUTAMPIGA TUMEANZA NA M23...SOON TUTAMFIKIA. .WAIT...

      ...NA MASNITCH NI NYIE...nyambaf...
      We we taratibu?unasemaga prof mwakyusa,this man is dangerous

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      Quote By Nairobian View Post
      As funny as it sounds, that a simple advice from Kikwete could trigger such a big rift, not quite. That's not the issue. The real issue is that, Kikwete has been lobbying the west to indict Kagame at ICC for destabilizing DRC. Many leaders in Nairobi calls Kikwete a snitch !

      Reliable sources in Both Kigali and Nairobi, have hinted at a possible indictment of Kagame at the ICC for supporting M23 which has been orchestrated by Kikwete

      Outburst out of Kikwete's mere advise is just a scapegoat; ICC is the real issue and Kagame henchmen claims that before Kagame is indicted, Kikwete personally, and not Tanzanians must pay a price
      Hata Kikwete ICC inamuhusu sana kwa Mauaji ya Mwangosi, Ally Zona, waandamanaji wa Chadema Arusha, bomu katika mkutano wa Chadema Soweto na mauaji mengi yenye sura ya kisiasa bila kusahau utekaji nyara na utesaji watu. Funny enough Kikwete hajawahi hata kutoa pole kwa mjane wa Mwangosi.

      Kikwete kwa sasa ni kipenzi cha wazungu kwa kuwa Ana rasilimali na hivyo kuwa snitch wenzie, lakini hajui undumilakuwili wa wazungu watakaomgeuka madini na gesi vikiisha
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      Isn't it strange that recently Bashir killed our soldiers in Darfur and Kikwete is cosying up to him as if nothing happened. Kagame has not and will never be a threat to Tanzania.
      Mkuu Jasusi
      I completely agree with you Kagame has not and will never be a threat to Tanzania

      it is Kikwete who plays around with Tanzanians heads to revitalize his personality

      on international forums through undermining Kagame and other nearby head of states and is not acceptable
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      President Kikwete has nothing to do with ICC, remember y Kibaki visited Tanzania 2 wks before Kenya election! Kagame is killer he killed Professor Mwaikusa, and theTutsi they think that they were born to rule others.
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