Topic: Invitation to all JF members: Debate!

This serves to invite all JF members to a debate. herewith the proceedings:

1. Hii thread inawaalika JF members wote jukwaa la siasa tarehe 24, saa saba East African Time kwenye debate kati ya zomba na Matola (July 24, 2012, at 13:00 EAT);

2. Debate itahusu utawala wa Rais Kikwete toka mwaka 2005 hadi 2012;

3. Debate itaongozwa na Mwali katika lugha mbili: Kiswahili na Kiingereza;

4. Mwali ataanda na kupost masuali kumi (10) yatakao jadiliwa na waalikwa kwenye thread hiyo, suali la kumi na moja na la kumi na mbili (11 na 12) zikiwa masuali toka kwa waalikwa wenyewe, la kumi na tatu, kumi na nne na kumi na tano (13, 14 na 15) ni suali toka kwa members;

5. Siku ya debate Mwali atauliza suali moja mmoja na kuwapa waalika, each at his own time , nafasi ya kujibu suali hilo. Waalikwa watapewa not more than 20 min kujibu masuali;

6. Baada ya waalikwa kujibu suali toka kwa Mwali (au baada ya muda wa dakika 20 kupita), waalikwa wataruhusiwa kuulizana suali la ufafanuzi wa majibu (suali moja kila upande);

7. Baada ya jibu la ufafanuzi Mwali ataleta suali lenye kufata, na kuendelea na debate. waalikwa pekee ndio watakao jibu masuali, majibu mengine yote yatafutwa;

8. Masuali yote 15 yakisha jibiwa, debate itafungwa ila members wengine wataalikwa kuchambua na kuwahoji waalikwa ambao watakua huru kujibu au kutojibu masuali;

9. thread itakua stuck kwa muda wa mwezi mmoja ili members mbali mbali watoe majibu yako kwa masuali ya debate;

10. Masharti ya JF kuzingatiwa kila wakati.


Kama kuna maoni yoyote naomba myafikishe kwa kupitia thread hii, kabla ya saa sita mchana tarehe 23 July 2012.

Asanteni wote na karibuni.


Update:

By zomba

Swaafi sana, nigeomba saa saba isogezwe kidogo iwe saa 8, kwani kama InshaAllah hiyo itakuwa ni wakati wa swalaat dhuhr na sisi Waislaam tutakuwa katika mwezi wa kufunga na kuomba maghfira.

Unaweza anzisha mjadala wakati huo lakini tukiwa hai na majaaliwa sitoweza kuwepo on line kabla ya saa saba na nusu, nna uhakika saa 8 kamili itakuwa muafaka kwa wote.

Debate itaanza saa nane kamili (14:00, EAT) as per Zomba's request (post #5)

By Matola

Roulette this is acknowledgement receipt of conformation that i will participate the debate.

Link ya mjadala:http://www.jamiiforums.com/great-thinkers/297111-mjadala-tathmini-ya-utawala-wa-rais-kikwete-2005-2012

Link ya members wengine kuchangia: http://www.jamiiforums.com/great-thi...ml#post4302632

Waalikwa wanaalikwa na nani? Mimi naomba mwaliko mapema.

By only83

Waalikwa wanaalikwa na nani? Mimi naomba mwaliko mapema.

You must be joking, na kama uko serious basi utakuwa na zaidi ya tatizo.
Mambo yote ni hapa hapa JF, na hapa kwenye thread hii ndo umeshaalikwa na thread itakuwa Sticky.

By Kimbunga

Huyu hana ban kweli manake siku nyingi sijamuona hapa. Mkuu Ritz nadhani atakuwa meza kuu na wenzake akina Rejao Mchuzi wa bata nk

By TUMBIRI

Huyo @Ribosome ni mtu wa ajabu sana. Kwenye thread za kawaida huwezi muona ila subiri uone TUNTEMEKE alete thread! Yeye ndiye anadominate thread nzima. Kwa kifupi siku hizi ni Pro-CCM / Ant-CDM!

Nimeligundua Ribosome = Zomba

Nimeona kabadilisha Nick Kimya Kimya Siku ya Debate Atajitambilisha vizuri

By TUMBIRI

Kamanda Matola nakuona upo online! Tunaomba neno moja tu kutoka kwako kuhusu huu mdahalo! Tunaamini kambi ya Pro-Matola itaangusha kambi ya Pro-Zomba

Najua siku hiyo itakuwa kama ule mpambano wa Mike Tyson na Evander Holyfield watu wote walikuwa upande wa Tyson lakini alipaanza kuchezea makonde akakimbilia kutafuna siko....Mkuu Kimbunga kama unavyojua zomba akianza kutiririka na data za JK...

Tatizo ni pale mtu atapokuja na issue zinazohusu barabara hapo zomba mtamkoma, good idea Roulette tutajitahidi mida hiyo tuwepo

By Ritz

Najua siku hiyo itakuwa kama ule mpambano wa Mike Tyson na Evander Holyfield watu wote walikuwa upande wa Tyson lakini alipaanza kuchezea makonde akakimbilia kutafuna siko. Mkuu Kimbunga kama unavyojua zomba akianza kutiririka na data za JK...

Kumbuka hapa hakuna Usalama wa Taifa wala yule Jaji aliyehukumu kesi ya Lema kwamba watakuja kuwasaidia. Tutawashindilia hoja hadi mkimbie JF kama ndugu yenu Rejao na Mwita25! Zomba kwa Matola ni sawa na empty heard! Subiri uone!

TUMBIRI (PhD, University of Hull, UK),
[email protected]

Bado nakumbuka ahadi 69 za Kikwete...sijui katekeleza ngapi mpaka sasa?

By The Boss

nimeona kuna mtu katoa maana ya debate kwa kiswahili
mimi najua ilikuwa ni MDAHALO
sasa hili jina la MNAKASHA ndo nasiika leo
so ningependa pia walimu wa kiswahili watusaidie pia.

Ha haaa, Lugha itakayotumika iwe fasaha, na si ya kutohoa na kukosea! sahihisho, mleta thread, Si Suali ni swali!

By The Boss

nimeona kuna mtu katoa maana ya debate kwa kiswahili
mimi najua ilikuwa ni MDAHALO
sasa hili jina la MNAKASHA ndo nasiika leo
so ningependa pia walimu wa kiswahili watusaidie pia.

Hili neno kwa mara ya kwanza kama sijakosea,alilitaja Mohammed Said,kwenye ile thread yake inayohusu "wazee wa gerezani ni mashujaa wa uhuru",nakumbuka alisema "hatojiingiza kwenye mnakasha" usiokuwa wa kistaarabu,yani usiokuwa na matusi.I stand to be corrected kama kuna mwenye different memories.

By Roulette

This serves to invite all JF members to a debate. herewith the proceedings:

1. Hii thread inawaalika JF members wote jukwaa la siasa tarehe 24, saa saba EAT kwenye debate kati ya zomba na Matola (July 24, 2012, at 13:00 EAT);

2. Debate itahusu utawala wa Rais Kikwete toka mwaka 2005 hadi 2012;

3. Debate itaongozwa na Mwali katika lugha mbili: Kiswahili na Kiingereza;

4. Mwali ataanda na kupost masuali kumi (10) yatakao jadiliwa na waalikwa kwenye thread hiyo, suali la kumi na moja na la kumi na mbili (11 na 12) zikiwa masuali toka kwa waalikwa wenyewe, la kumi na tatu, kumi na nne na kumi na tano (13, 14 na 15) ni suali toka kwa members;

5. Siku ya debate Mwali atauliza suali moja mmoja na kuwapa waalika, each at his own time , nafasi ya kujibu suali hilo. Waalikwa watapewa not more than 20 min kujibu masuali;

6. Baada ya waalikwa kujibu suali toka kwa Mwali (au baada ya muda wa dakika 20 kupita), waalikwa wataruhusiwa kuulizana suali la ufafanuzi wa majibu (suali moja kila upande);

7. Baada ya jibu la ufafanuzi Mwali ataleta suali lenye kufata, na kuendelea na debate. waalikwa pekee ndio watakao jibu masuali, majibu mengine yote yatafutwa;

8. Masuali yote 15 yakisha jibiwa, debate itafungwa ila members wengine wataalikwa kuchambua na kuwahoji waalikwa ambao watakua huru kujibu au kutojibu masuali;

9. thread itakua stuck kwa muda wa mwezi mmoja ili members mbali mbali watoe majibu yako kwa masuali ya debate;

10. Masharti ya JF kuzingatiwa kila wakati.


Kama kuna maoni yoyote naomba myafikishe kwa kupitia thread hii, kabla ya saa sita mchana tarehe 23 July 2012.

Asanteni wote na karibuni.


Update:

Debate itaanza saa nane kamili (14:00, EAT) as per Zomba's request (post #5)

Ahsanteni kwa hilo. InshaAllah tutakuwa wote siku na saa hiyo.

Nawatakia wana JF wote Ramadhan Njema, yenye salama, amani na utulivu. Nawapa pole sana walioondokewa na ndugu, jamaa na marafiki zao kwenye ajali ya meli. Nawapa pole na Watanzania wote kwa msiba huu. Tuko pamoja.

Nachukuwa fursa hii pia kuwaomba msamaha wote tunaokoseana humu jamvini, amma kwa kujibizana kihasira na kejeli na istihizai za hapa na pale. Yote hii ni katika kufunguwana na kupanuana mawazo.

Nachukuwa fursa hii pia kuwaomba wanajamii wote, JF isiwe ndio chachu ya kuleteana chuki za kudumu iwe za kidini, kisiasa, kijamii, kimtazamo, tukumbuke kuwa sisi sote ni binaadam na kwa dini zote chanzo chetu ni kimoja Adam na Hawa (Eve) na kwa wale wenzetu wasioamini katika vitabu vya dini basi hata "scientifically" kuna genes ambazo zinatufanya tuwe watu na si viatu na sina shaka kuwa hizo genes tunazo sote haijalishi ni wa kabila, taifa, au dini ipi. Kwa hilo, tudumishe amani na tudumishe kuelimishana zaidi ya kulumbana bila ya kuwa na faida japo kidogo katika mabishani yetu. Tukhitilafiane lakini katika kujiendeleza na si kujirudisha nyuma. JF iwe ni chachu na kitovu cha kuelimishana na kuelewana na kufahamiana na iwe ni chachu ya kila mmoja kuheshimu muono wa mwenzake ulio tofauti na wake.

Tupendane kwa ari zaidi, nguvu zaidi na kasi zaidi.

By zomba

Ahsanteni kwa hilo. InshaAllah tutakuwa wote siku na saa hiyo.

Nawatakia wana JF wote Ramadhan Njema, yenye salama, amani na utulivu. Nawapa pole sana walioondokewa na ndugu, jamaa na marafiki zao kwenye ajali ya meli. Nawapa pole na Watanzania wote kwa msiba huu. Tuko pamoja.

Nachukuwa fursa hii pia kuwaomba msamaha wote tunaokoseana humu jamvini, amma kwa kujibizana kihasira na kejeli na istihizai za hapa na pale. Yote hii ni katika kufunguwana na kupanuana mawazo....

Mkuu zomba kama sio udini na siasa za kumtetea JK hata kwa mapungufu ya wazi, wewe ni kichwa.!

By Ritz

Hujambo mtoto mzuri?

Hiyo sura yako? Umezaliwa hivyo? Hivi kweli utamuoa dada wa nani na sura hiyo.?????

By mzee wa njaa

Hiyo sura yako? Umezaliwa hivyo? Hivi kweli utamuoa dada wa nani na sura hiyo.?????

Mkuu kwanza si unaona ni "golden member",nenda katizame hiyo status huwa inakuwa achieved kivipi,behind huo msura wa avatar there's something "dada" anaweza ingia mkenge lol!Kuna moja aliingia nayo mwanzo ya uchi lol!JF raha tupu sometimes...As unakutana na watu wa tofauati ambao katika maisha ya bila mtandao tusingekaa tuweze kukutana na kuwasikia,pia kuwasoma...

By jmushi1

Mkuu kwanza si unaona ni "golden member",nenda katizame hiyo status huwa inakuwa achieved kivipi,behind huo msura wa avatar there's something "dada" anaweza ingia mkenge lol!Kuna moja aliingia nayo mwanzo ya uchi lol!JF raha tupu sometimes...As unakutana na watu wa tofauati ambao katika maisha ya bila mtandao tusingekaa tuweze kukutana na kuwasikia,pia kuwasoma...

Mkuu umenikumbusha unajuwa nimesahau sijatuma mzigo bado, nakukumbusha na wewe tutume mzigo JF.

By Matola

Mkuu umenikumbusha unajuwa nimesahau sijatuma mzigo bado, nakukumbusha na wewe tutume mzigo JF.

Tru mkuu,ndo nimemaliza shule,so niko kwenye process ya kupata shughuli niliyoisomea mkuu wangu,so hopefully very soon.Uwezo wa kifedha si uwezo wa kihoja and vice versa,however JF is in my heart and it always be...I promise I will do the same bruh.Pia inabidi uwe role model wetu kwa kuanza kama hauko kwenye situation kama yangu,nadhani hata kama sitakuwa na uwezo wa diamond,gold or platinum,nitajitahidi kuchangia chochote na nitaprefer kubakia na status yangu ya Senior expert member.

By Mag3

Did you mean Hypocrites Hypothesis? ha ha haaa!...ever heard of one who approaches greatness on his belly?...it is so that he doent have to be commanded to turn to be kicked!

Nope. I didn't mean "Hypothesis", I meant "hyperthesis" to the dot. I knew, you are of a different caliber and you'd swallow bait, hook, sinker and line. "Hyperthesis" is a bit too high a target for you.

I urge you to go read the "hyperthesis philosophy" you might have a hint of what I meant, please do not confuse hyperthesis philosophy with hyperthetic philosophy let alone hypothesis science. If you only know what I mean.

By zomba

Nope. I didn't mean "Hypothesis", I meant "hyperthesis" to the dot. I knew, you are of a different caliber and you'd swallow bait, hook, sinker and line. "Hyperthesis" is a bit too high a target for you.

I urge you to go read the "hyperthesis philosophy" you might have a hint of what I meant, please do not confuse hyperthesis philosophy with hyperthetic philosophy let alone hypothesis science. If you only know what I mean.

duh!mdahalo ushaanza?kaazi kweli kweli,Mag3 najuwa mtaenda pound for pound,jaribu kutumia fursa hii kujinoa mkuu.Jamaa naye yuko fit sana tu kwa mjadla,kuna watu ningependelea pia kama ungejaribu kujifua nao kwa mijadala ya constructive,watu kama Nguruvi3,FJM,na Unstoppable na wengine,mwenzio Ritz1 amefaidika sana na hilo.JF change people's lives in many ways...BTW hivi hii status ya taifa letu utaiteteaje mkuu?

By zomba

Nope. I didn't mean "Hypothesis", I meant "hyperthesis" to the dot. I knew, you are of a different caliber and you'd swallow bait, hook, sinker and line. "Hyperthesis" is a bit too high a target for you.

I urge you to go read the "hyperthesis philosophy" you might have a hint of what I meant, please do not confuse hyperthesis philosophy with hyperthetic philosophy let alone hypothesis science. If you only know what I mean.

Duh!

Thanks Roulette for inviting every member to engage in to discuss politics especially as one member said, its about status quo against the mess we are in. Well, its all about finding answers on how to clean up the mess were in.

With full anticipation I will be there to contribute. This is not about politicking whereby someone is trying to achieve one's goal.

Its about enlignment or reasoning to scrutinize something which nas not been right.

By jmushi1

duh!mdahalo ushaanza?kaazi kweli kweli,Mag3 najuwa mtaenda pound for pound,jaribu kutumia fursa hii kujinoa mkuu.Jamaa naye yuko fit sana tu kwa mjadla,kuna watu ningependele pia kama ungejaribu kujifua nao kwa mijadala ya constructive,watu kama Nguruvi3,FJM,na Unstoppable.Hivi hii status ya taifa letu utaiteteaje mkuu?

Wanambeep Kiranga hao.