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      Default Nia Yangu ya Kumfungulia Mashtaka Pius Msekwa hapa Nebraska

      Mimi kama mmoja wa wanachama waandamizi wa Jamii Forums ambapo nimekuwa mwanchama kwa karibu miaka mitano sasa tangu ikiwa Jambo Forums kabla ya kubadili jina na kuwa Jamiiforums nimekerwa sana na matamshi ya Makamu Mwenyekiti wa CCM kuwa forums hii ni ya vijana wa CHADEMA. Naona kuwa amenivunjia sana heshima yangu mbele ya wenzangu kwa kunipa image ya kuwa mimi ni mpiga propaganda wa CHADEMA.

      Baada ya kutafakari kwa kina matamshi ya Pius Msekwa na jinsi yalivyoathiri image yangu kama mwanachama wa JamiiForums, nimeamua kumfungulia mashtaka ya defamation kwenye mahakama ya Douglas County hapa Omaha Nebraska nchini Marekani. Nimejadiliana na mwanasheria wangu ambaye amenipatia kifungu cha sheria kinachoniruhusu kumshitaki raia wa nchi ya nje kwenye mahakama hii, iwapo marekani ina uhusiano wa kibalozi na nchi ya mshitakiwa. Sasa hivi tuko katika hatua za mwisho mwisho za kukusanya ushahidi imara.

      Nimeshapata nakala za magazeti ya kiswahili na kiingereza ila nimekuwa natafuta video clip yenye kumwonyesha Msekwa akiwa anasema maneno hayo. Vile vile bado tunashauriana kiwango cha malipo ya Punitive Damages na Compensatory Damages; mwanasheria anashauri kuwa viwango hivyo vipimiwe zaidi kwa kuangalia jinsi gani Msekwa binafsi na chama chake walivyofaidika au watakavyofaidika kutokana na matamshi yake hayo, na kwa kiasi kidogo jinsi gani yalivyoathiri image yangu binafsi kama mwanachama mwanadamizi ambaye hujitambulisha kwa wenzagu wote kuwa mimi ni Premium Member wa JamiiForums.

      Tukikamailisha taratibu zote, nitawaarifuni au mtasikia kwenye vyombo vya habari Msekwa akiwa subpoenaed kwenye kesi hii ambayo pamoja na mambo mengine ninataka kuwadhibiti wanasiasa wasiwe wanaropoka mambo bila kuwa na uhakika nayo.
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      Mweh!!!!
      Miafrika Ndivyo Tulivyo.

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      Quote By Nyani Ngabu View Post
      Mweh!!!!
      ............... vipi; mbona kama unashangaa vile. Unataka nimsamehe!!
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      ............... vipi; mbona kama unashangaa vile. Unataka nimsamehe!!
      Nashangaa tu! Una imani na huyo mwanasheria wako na huo ushauri aliokupa?
      Miafrika Ndivyo Tulivyo.

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      Nashangaa tu! Una imani na huyo mwanasheria wako na huo ushauri aliokupa?
      Nimeuangalia ushauri huo kwa makini sana na kupata mifano ya kesi za nyuma ambazo zinafanana na hii.
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      Nimeuangalia ushauri huo kwa makini sana na kupata mifano ya kesi za nyuma ambazo zinafanana na hii.
      Na hivyo umepata imani kuwa una kesi nzuri ambayo una uwezekano mkubwa wa kushinda?
      Miafrika Ndivyo Tulivyo.

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      Quote By Nyani Ngabu View Post
      Na hivyo umepata imani kuwa una kesi nzuri ambayo una uwezekano mkubwa wa kushinda?
      Itetegemea na ushahidi nitakaofikisha mahakamani; ndiyo maana nimesema kuwa tunakusanya ushahidi imara. Bila ya kuwa ushahid imara siwezi kupoteza muda wangu.
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      Na hivyo umepata imani kuwa una kesi nzuri ambayo una uwezekano mkubwa wa kushinda?
      Nyani,
      Hata kama hatashinda ujumbe utakuwa umepelekwa kwa Msekwa na wanasiasa aina yake kuwa wasiwe wanaropokaropoka ovyo bila ushahidi.

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      Safi sana nchi hii ina hitaji watu kama wewe. Tatizo la watanzania tunadhani jambo zuri linafanywa na kikundi cha watuhapana mtu mmoja mwenye akili na ujasiri

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      Hongera kwa ujasiri mkuu, endelea na maandalizi ya kesi. Ukiwa kiongozi unatakiwa kuwajibika na kauli zako.
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      Mzee tuwasiliane...
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      huyu mzee alikurupuka tu ...mimi naona umdai jero tu
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      Mkuu ni vema ukafile case hiyo ili Msekwa ajifunze kuwa makini. Ila sijapenda uliposema ...mpiga propaganda wa chadema ni kukuvunjia heshima, kwani kuwa mtetezi wa cdm ni nongwa? Ningependa kila mtanzania aitwe mwanacdm ili mafisadi wamwogope kila raia na hapo wangeacha ujangiri wao dhidi ya umma. Ikumbukwe kuwa aliko mwanacdm fisadi anapakimbia!

      Mkuu, ukimaliza kesi hiyo file pia ya mafisadi wanaoua kikazi cha leo na kijacho kwa kuwaondolea raslimali muhimu! All the best!
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      Tekeleza kwanza kabla ya kupiga porojo, mikwala miiiingi
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      Mkuu ni vema ukafile case iyo ili Msekwa ajifunze kuwa makini. Ila sijapenda uliposema ...mpiga propaganda wa chadema ni kukuvunjia heshima,kwani kuwa mtetezi wa cdm ni nongwa? Ningependa kila mtanzania aitwe mwanacdm ili mafisadi wamwogope kila raia na hapo wangeacha ujangiri wao dhidi ya umma. Ikumbukwe kuwa aliko mwanacdm fisadi anapakimbia! Mkuu,ukimaliza kesi iyo file pia ya mafisadi wanaoua kikazi cha leo na kijacho kwa kuwaondolea raslimali muhimu! All the best!
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      hapo kwenye red kuna propaganda pia .... mimi nimemsoma
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      una kadi ya uanachama? jina lako halisi ni Kichuguu? wewe ni mwanachama au mwanzilishi, na kama sio mwanzilishi una uhakika haikuanzishwa na vijana wa cdm? unamshtaki msekwa au ccm, kama ni mskwa kwa nini uangalie manufaa watakayopata ccm? ......... ngoja niamke nikachinje kambuzi kangu nipate kisusio.
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      Wenye video clip ya hayo maneno mpeni kichuguu ili kuongeza ushahidi na kama state ya Nebraska itaweza kum-subpoena hata kama hatatii hiyo amri lakini italeta heshima jamiiforums kwasababu waropokaji wengine wataanza kuogopa kutoa maneno yasiyokuwa na mbele wala nyuma. Legal Damaging ya kesi kama hizi huwa kubwa sana.

      Ieleweke kuwa kichuguu anahaki ya kulalamika (kama mwanachama wa JF) kwasababu jamiiforums iko registered godaddy.com (US company) na vilevile iko-hosted kwenye server za Chicago (US). Kutokana na federal laws sites zozote zilizokuwa registered/hosted US zinalindwa na sheria za Marekani. Kama mtu yoyote atafanya attack (cyber/damaging yoyote kama false claims) kwenye website hizo basi anaweza ku-sued.

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      una kadi ya uanachama? jina lako halisi ni Kichuguu? wewe ni mwanachama au mwanzilishi, na kama sio mwanzilishi una uhakika haikuanzishwa na vijana wa cdm? unamshtaki msekwa au ccm, kama ni mskwa kwa nini uangalie manufaa watakayopata ccm? ......... ngoja niamke nikachinje kambuzi kangu nipate kisusio.
      Ukishamaliza kuchinja mbuzi jiandae kumsindikiza Msekwa tukutane hapo Omaha mahakamani. Wewe umejiunga mwaka 2010 tu, hujui njia ambayo wengine tulipitia kuipa uhai jamii forumas hadi wewe ukaikuta miaka minne baadaye na kuamua kujiunga nayo.
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      Ngabu, let Miafrika dare for once... ain't it good trying to be on top of the 'ndivyo tulivyo' syndrome?!
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      Kaka nadhani watambua vyema fitiza zifanyazo na chama chake pamoja na serikali ya chama chake. Nadhani angalia wasije kukutibulia mambo yako huko, isije ikawa ya ze utamu! Hili jukumu ni vyema km ingefanywa na sisi huku tz. Kifupi ni wazo zuri, na imeonyesha ni kwa kiasi gani umekereka, realy ur thinker and patriot. Tupo pamoja!

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      mh movie itakuwa tamu kiliko hata ya magamba, fanya fasta kichuguu
      mbona sioni umeme, maji wala barabara, 30% PAYE na Kodi nyingine katika bidhaa, zinaenda wapi?

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      Wanasiasa huwa hawaogopi kumeza maneno/kauli zao, lakini kwa hili la Msekwa ni jambo baya lisilofaa kuachwa lipite hivi hivi. Pamoja mkuu

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      mimi nadhani bro endelea na mchakato huo,nadhani kama hyo kesi ikishika atamu zake wanasiasa weng wa bongo especially wa ccmwanarookaropoka saaaanaaa,lazima kuwe na fundisho yahloo tatizo la kukurupukaa?>>>>>>>>>>>
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      kuwa makini na maamuzi yako kaka, nawasi wasi fitina na siasa za Bongo zaweza kukudhuru huko mkubwa, take my advice!

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      aah wapi! Hakuna cha fitina wala nini. Bwana mkubwa endelea na kesi, tutakupa sapoti yetu kadri itakavyowezekana
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      kuwa makini na maamuzi yako kaka, nawasi wasi fitina na siasa za Bongo zaweza kukudhuru huko mkubwa, take my advice!

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      Wenye nia hutenda hawasemi.

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      we kichuguu una mikwara hata kumshinda Gaddaf.........lol
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      mods, kitufe cha like au thank kipo wapi?

      nimeipenda hiyo kichuguu!! tupo pamoja hata kwa moral support

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      Quote By Gagurito View Post
      kuwa makini na maamuzi yako kaka, nawasi wasi fitina na siasa za Bongo zaweza kukudhuru huko mkubwa, take my advice!
      acha mikwara we mtoto, MSEKWA ndio awe makini na uzushi wake
      mbona sioni umeme, maji wala barabara, 30% PAYE na Kodi nyingine katika bidhaa, zinaenda wapi?

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      ... Baada ya kutafakari kwa kina matamshi ya Pius Msekwa na jinsi yalivyoathiri image yangu kama mwanachama wa JamiiForums, nimeamua kumfungulia mashtaka ya defamation kwenye mahakama ya Douglas County hapa Omaha Nebraska nchini Marekani. Nimejadiliana na mwanasheria wangu ambaye amenipatia kifungu cha sheria kinachoniruhusu kumshitaki raia wa nchi ya nje kwenye mahakama hii, iwapo marekani ina uhusiano wa kibalozi na nchi ya mshitakiwa. Sasa hivi tuko katika hatua za mwisho mwisho za kukusanya ushahidi imara. Nimeshapata nakala za magazeti ya kiswahili na kiingereza ila nimekuwa natafuta video clip yenye kumwonyesha Msekwa akiwa anasema maneno hayo. ...
      Tena kaka harakisha hilo suala; si unaona hata mzee mwenyewe alivyochoka kiumri. Hayo mambo alitakiwa awaachie vijana lakini Mzee mzima bado yupo.

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