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Old 9th June 2009, 08:40 AM  
Neno "shikamoo"
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Kwa nilivyo sikia mimi neno shikamoo maana yake ni "niko chini ya miguu yako. Pia nime sikia hilo neno ni la kitumwa na lilikuwa lina tumiwa na watumwa kuwaonyesha heshima wakuu wao. Kuna baadhi ya watu nawajua hawa pendi kupewa shikamoo na hata wakipewa hawa jibu marahaba. Je kama hili neno ni la kitumwa kwa nini sisi tuendelee kuli tumia kama neno linalo ashiria heshima? Kama lili tumika kuwa kandamiza mababu zetu kwa nini na sisi tulipe nafasi? Au tuna litumia kama wenzetu Wamarekani weusi wanavyo tumia neno "nigga" ambalo lili tumika kudharau mababu zao na kuli fanya la kwetu sasa?
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kila kitu ulichoandika hapo juu umepatia.ni neno la kitumwa kweli lakini ndio hivyo mababu zetu kwa kupenda umwinyi wakaliendeleza tu.mara nyingi mimi huwa nalikuwepa neno hilo kwa kutumia "asalam aleykum" .
Mzee Wenger vipi bwana? hata hiyo pia siyo asilia tumekopi mahali!
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Nazinginezo... zinasidia sana kuikwepa shikamoo, upo?
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Ndio maana linatumika kumsalimia mtu aliyekuzidi umri, kwa ajili ya heshima uliyonayo kwake.......
Hili neno hata mimi huwa linanipa maswali nikifikiria historia.Kwani TUK - Taasis ya Uchunguzi wa Kiswahili katika tafiti zao mbalimbali hawajaweza kupata neno lingine kutoka makabila yaliyopo Tanzania kama mbadala wake? Kwenye kabila langu kwa mfano hakuna neno linalofanana na shikamoo! Zipo salamu za kila wakati zenye kuonyesha heshima kwa waliokuzidi umri.Naamini hata makabila mengine wanayo.

Ila inavyoonekana SHIKAMOO IS HERE TO STAY!
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Mimi huwa inanikera kumsalimia shiakamoo mtu ninayemzidi umri at. kwa sababu ni shemeji yako Mkubwa yaani dada mkubwa wa mke au mama mdogo wa mke amabye labda unamzidi miaka 10. mambo ya uswahilini utakuta wanaidai kabisa. Kwangu shikamoo siyo salaam mbaya kwa anayekuzidi umri zaidi ya miaka 5
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Bado ukweli uko pale pale kwamba hili neno lilikuepo kukandamizwa watumwa(haswa sisi weusi), iweje tuli chukue na kulifanya letu? Kama WoS alivyo sema kwani hamna neno mbadala? Iweje kumuambia mtu nipo chini ya miguu yako iwe heshima? Kwani lazima tuige kila kitu? Au sasa ni sisi tunaendeleza utumwa wa kimawazo bila pingu na kengele? Nawashukuru wachangiaji wote hata wale ambao tuna mawazo tofauti.
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Ni kweli shikamoo lina asili ya utumwa, lakini kama walivyotanabaisha wachangiaji wengine lugha hukua na sehemu moja wapo ya ukuaji wa lugha ni kama haya mabadiliko tunayoyaona kwenye neno shikamoo. Na sio neno hili pekee ambalo limekuwa "adopted" katika kiswahili kwa maana nzuri tu japo mwanzo yalikuwa na asili fulani ya uduni hivi, mfano neno 'rabeka' ni neno ambalo lilitumika na mwanamke kumuitikia mume wake, na lina asili ya kiarabu pia, na kwa jinsi ilivyokuwa wanawake kwa waarabu walikuwa hawathamini sana, lakini sasa linatumika kama heshima ya mwanamke kumuitikia mumewe hasa katika ukanda wa pwani, neno jingine ni ' naam' ni neno lilikuwa linatumika kukubali kitu au jambo, lakini kwa sasa kwenye kiswahili linatumika kama kiitikio cha heshima kwa mtoto wa kiume aitwapo. Yapo maneno mengi tu kama mem sahib, sasa linatumika kama mamsapu nk
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Shikamoo mwanafalsafa!
Dah huu uchokozi kaka mkubwa hahaha.
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Ok inajulikana kuwa shikamoo ni salaam unayompa mtu aliyekujizi umri (sifahamu kama kuna age limit) Ila Kuna wababa wengine especially binti wa kike akimwambia shikamoo humjibu "salama tuu binti hujambo".And why is that?.
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Ok inajulikana kuwa shikamoo ni salaam unayompa mtu aliyekujizi umri (sifahamu kama kuna age limit) Ila Kuna wababa wengine especially binti wa kike akimwambia shikamoo humjibu "salama tuu binti hujambo".And why is that?.
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Bado ukweli uko pale pale kwamba hili neno lilikuepo kukandamizwa watumwa(haswa sisi weusi), iweje tuli chukue na kulifanya letu? Kama WoS alivyo sema kwani hamna neno mbadala? Iweje kumuambia mtu nipo chini ya miguu yako iwe heshima? Kwani lazima tuige kila kitu? Au sasa ni sisi tunaendeleza utumwa wa kimawazo bila pingu na kengele? Nawashukuru wachangiaji wote hata wale ambao tuna mawazo tofauti.
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