Narrow Minded Kenyans

THIS THREAD IS INSPIRED FROM THREAD YA WAKENYA WAMKEJELI JK

On personal level i am alaways cautious when it comes to blind Patriotism which in times i view it as state funded Propaganda lakini naona nimeshindwa kujizuia maana huhitaji kuwa NASA scientist kujua kuwa sasa hao WAPUMBAVU juu hawataki Heshima na dawa yao ni ni kujibu hoja ambazo kwa iih-sani ya poster (JEI KEI ) alipost na link na naona it will be better to respond kwa namna amabavyo MBONGO yoyote anaweza kwani ndio as much JK anakasoro zake lakini he is still OURS

By the way hii QOUTE toka kwenye link aliyo post JEI-KEI -NOTE yeye naye aliipata sehemu

http://kumekucha.blogspot.com/2006/09/bush-discusses-instability-in-kenya.html[/url]

na kaamua kuleta attention kwetu tu hapa JAMBO FORUM
sijui watu wataijibuje? LAKINI NITAWAJIBU KAMA IFUATAVYO:

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	On a more serious note consider the following facts; • [B][I]At the moment there is much more instability in Tanzania with a crippling 12 hour power rationing regime (on a daily basis). Many businesses have closed down and hyper inflation is setting in. The power rationing going on in that country is unprecedented in East and Central Africa.

-WRONG

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	• The serious economic crisis developing in Tanzania is a threat to the economic stability of the East African Community.

-WRONG & partly true kama umeme usipofanyiwa solution ya haraka

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	• In a basket of major foreign currencies traded in Tanzania that includes the dollar, euros, pound sterling, yen etc. the Kenya Shilling is second only to the dollar in terms of daily volumes traded. (Serious Kenyan dealers have no idea what the Tanzanian shilling looks like). Kenya is also the foreign investor that has created the highest number of jobs in Tanzania…

-WRONG kwa sababu biggest Foreign investor in TZ ni WHITE SOUTH AFRICANS na pili serious business pple wouldnt have a problem of knowing a currency they are trading with..typical Kenyans! always arrogant na kujitia ujuaji tu

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	• …And yet there is currently a deliberate (but quiet) policy by President Kikwete’s government to frustrate Kenyan investors and businesspersons operating in the country. Not to mention Tanzania’s stalling tactics at the East African community that is costing tax payers in all 3 East African countries a fortune…

-WRONG but the fact remains WATZ wengi hatujali sana hili suala la ONE SIDED east African community so Kenyans should get a grip na namuunga mkono JK kwa hizi jitihada za kuwabana wakenya na hili lisiishie kwa wakenya tu nadhani ingekuwa nzuri likaendelea kwa SA ili kulinda informal Secrtor TZ amabyo inakua katika SLOW pace after all not everything is for sale and Adam Smith would have agreed with me

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	• There is plenty of evidence to suggest that many investors in Tanzania are dumping the rapidly depreciating Tanzanian shilling in favor of the more stable Kenyan shilling. So which country is more stable, Mr Bush?

-WRONG-With one of the highest levels of corruption in a country like Kenya even an idiot like Bush knows mchele ni upi na PUMBA ni zipi how about Kenyans sorting their problems with WHITE SETTELERS in RIFT VALLEY kabla hawajaanza kuingialia mambo ya watu? how about reading Human rights records toka AMNESTY na HUMAN RIGHTS WATCH?

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	• Experts estimate that Tanzania is about 20 years behind Kenya in terms of development. Those who have visited the country and seen the lazy-yet-know-it-all attitude of the people put the real figure at closer to half a century-with no hope of catching up (especially with the attitude being displayed currently at the EAC).

-WRONG..i am deeply offended with "LAZY YET KNOW IT ALL ATTITUDE" if thats the case why cant Kenyans go to invest in Somalia why do they still invest in TZ? pili sijui report hiyo wameitoa wapi lakini according to UNDP-Human Index Report Tanzanian's are overall better than Kenyans..kwa nini hawajiulizi US haikuwaingiza kwenye AGOA? NA wajiulize kwanini UK imewakatia misaada..simple BAD GOVERNANCE .

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	President Bush must have gotten his geography and facts a little mixed up. Poor guy, it’s been a very taxing 6 years as President of the most powerful nation in the world, especially with Osama breathing down his neck.

WRONG-Another simplistic analysis....well Bush won 4 elections in a row sasa iweje asijue Geography,Dude might looks stupid but surely being a a YALE grad says it all...

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	P.S. To add insult to injury Bush has promised to visit Tanzania soon. My advice to the Bush Presidential party. Do not forget two very important items. Namely plenty of generators to generate your own electricity and an interprator who understands Kiswahili, broken English and proper English.

WHAT AN ASS! Bush can go anywhere and last time he went to Pakistan he never cared about their English after all language is a non -issue in 2006 ...typical Kenyan SLAVE Mentality

Kwa leo ni hayo lakini natumai kuwa wengine wanaweza kuvent humu ndani on these stupid KENYANS

-GT

[Mzalendohalisi]

Wandugu wa TZ na Kenya,
Hii hate debate haitusaidii lolote... Watz especially hatujazoea hate debate. Nashauri tuwe na debate ya kukuza upendo, mshkamano na kuheshimiana!

Tu ndugu moja.. wa damu moja.

[Mwan mpambanaji]

Naona la msingi ni sisi watz kujipanga,na kuacha kulalamika.Mambo hayaendi kwa kulalamika,bali kwa mipango endelevu

[DMussa]

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	Naona la msingi ni sisi watz kujipanga,na kuacha kulalamika.Mambo hayaendi kwa kulalamika,bali kwa mipango endelevu

Mkuu,
Watz hatujalalamika ila tumetoa ajenda zetu kama ambavyo umesoma/kuskia ktk habari n.k...in return Wakenya wameanza kututupia maneno ya kejeli na matusi!! Kisa hatukubaliani na mambo flani katika hii inayoitwa fast tracking the EAC integration.

Kwa nini na wao wasikubali wachukue muda kutafakari issues hizi na kuona uwezekano wa kuwa na makubaliano kati ya hizi nchi 5??

Otherwise sisi tumesema we still need time NO RUSH!

[MtuKwao]

Hii thread niliiona miaka miliwili iliyopita kwenye blog ya mpuuzi mmoja mkenya, nafikiri ilikuwa Kumekucha: Naona bado inaendlea...

Kwamba Wakenya ni arrogant ni kwa sababu ya jinsi walivyolelewa. Kila kitu kwao wanakipima kwa jinsi wanavyoweza kujirundikia sifa, na mali, kwa ushindani ...tunajua of-course kwamba uchumi siyo wa wakenya bali wa wawekezaji ambao siyo hata wakenya. Ukitaka kujua jinsi walivyo watumwa, jaribu kwenda hotelini na mtu mweupe, hata kama umetangulia wewe, uone nani atahudumiwa kwanza, pamoja na kwamba wote mnalipa...

Watanzania hatujazoea hayo. Binadamu wote ni sawa....

Nakumbuka nilianfdika kwenye hiyo blog kwamba Tanzania ni taifa kubwa, imefanya makubwa, kuliko nyingi zenye utajiri mkubwa zaidi yake.

Wakati tanzania inasaidia ukombozi kusini mwa afrika, wakenya kama kawaida yao walikuwa wanaendelea kuganga njaa zao. Kwao hakuna cha muhimu zaidi ya pesa... Sawa, lakini sisi hatuli kwao, na pesa ni zao ... Wakitaka kuja ku-invest Tanzania ni kwa sababu ya njaa zao siyo kwa sababu wanataka kutusaidia.

Niliwaambia then na sasa nawaandikia tena, kwamba kama kweli Kenya wanataka wajulikane kama taifa maarufu, inabidi waende Darfu (Western Sudan) wakalete amani pale kama sisi tulivyofanya Kusini kote.

Hata hivyo Tanzania tuna matatizo yetu, na la maana ni kutambua kwamba kama tuliweza kusaidia na kufanikisha ukombozi Kusini mwa Afrika, haya ya Wakenya kwamba wao ni taifa kubwa halitachukua muda kuonekana kwamba ni sauti ya debe tupu!

Tuanze sasa.

[Nyaralego]

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	I suspect this is stupid if not non sense! Why do not you develop Kenya have peace and harmony one another; kikuyu and luo etc.. KANU and ODM etc.. solve poverty in the kibera slums, and the rest out of Nairobi city leave alone street kids in Nairobi; find better places to house and feed them. By the way what is your national language? I suspect you are just a slave if you do not have a national language. And one who does not have a national language is idiot and can be manipulated like nothing else. Stay in Kenya. We Tanzanians are used to listen to our hearts for we are full of love; imagine more than 170 tribes living in peace and harmony and just two bloody f*cken tribes in Kenya fighting and killing each other like hell. With all due respect Kenya has 42 tribes. I suggest along as well that you form a Kikuyu and Luo cooperation first before coming to a larger scale. I think it is wisest.

I am soooo sitting on the fence on this one. I have alot to say but I'm pleading the fifth!!
So much vitriol...
We can hem and haw and froth in the mouth but dialogue is the way to go.

[mwanzilishi]

Jambo la muhimu ni kwa Tanzania kuwafukuza Wakenya wote walioko Tanzania kuonyesha kukasirishwa na vitendo vyao vya kumkashifu raisi wenu. Huwezi kuwabembeleza wakati kila siku wanakutukana. Mwalimu alifunga mpaka hadi pale Sokoine alipoweza kuja na formula ya kufungua mpaka. Nyang'au hawezi kubadilika bin Vuu na kuwa muungwana.

Tatizo ni pale uhamiaji wakipewa vijisenti basi wanawaruhusu kama foleni ya ng'ombe.

[Ab-Titchaz]

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	Jambo la muhimu ni kwa Tanzania kuwafukuza Wakenya wote walioko Tanzania kuonyesha kukasirishwa na vitendo vyao vya kumkashifu raisi wenu. Huwezi kuwabembeleza wakati kila siku wanakutukana. Mwalimu alifunga mpaka hadi pale Sokoine alipoweza kuja na formula ya kufungua mpaka. Nyang'au hawezi kubadilika bin Vuu na kuwa muungwana. Tatizo ni pale uhamiaji wakipewa vijisenti basi wanawaruhusu kama foleni ya ng'ombe.

Mwanzilishi,

kwa mujibu wa matamshi yako nadhani hii thread ishafikia kufungwa.
Hamna haja ya kukashifiiana na kutoa vitisho kama hivyo vya
'kuwafukuza watu'.

JF ni ukumbi mkubwa na kuna kila aina ya watu humu ndani and they
can take an inflamatory statement and run with it....not knowing what
will result out of it.

Tuendeleza mijadala ya maana kuliko ya chuki tafadhali.

Regards.