Narrow Minded Kenyans

THIS THREAD IS INSPIRED FROM THREAD YA WAKENYA WAMKEJELI JK

On personal level i am alaways cautious when it comes to blind Patriotism which in times i view it as state funded Propaganda lakini naona nimeshindwa kujizuia maana huhitaji kuwa NASA scientist kujua kuwa sasa hao WAPUMBAVU juu hawataki Heshima na dawa yao ni ni kujibu hoja ambazo kwa iih-sani ya poster (JEI KEI ) alipost na link na naona it will be better to respond kwa namna amabavyo MBONGO yoyote anaweza kwani ndio as much JK anakasoro zake lakini he is still OURS

By the way hii QOUTE toka kwenye link aliyo post JEI-KEI -NOTE yeye naye aliipata sehemu

http://kumekucha.blogspot.com/2006/09/bush-discusses-instability-in-kenya.html[/url]

na kaamua kuleta attention kwetu tu hapa JAMBO FORUM
sijui watu wataijibuje? LAKINI NITAWAJIBU KAMA IFUATAVYO:

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	On a more serious note consider the following facts; • [B][I]At the moment there is much more instability in Tanzania with a crippling 12 hour power rationing regime (on a daily basis). Many businesses have closed down and hyper inflation is setting in. The power rationing going on in that country is unprecedented in East and Central Africa.

-WRONG

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	• The serious economic crisis developing in Tanzania is a threat to the economic stability of the East African Community.

-WRONG & partly true kama umeme usipofanyiwa solution ya haraka

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	• In a basket of major foreign currencies traded in Tanzania that includes the dollar, euros, pound sterling, yen etc. the Kenya Shilling is second only to the dollar in terms of daily volumes traded. (Serious Kenyan dealers have no idea what the Tanzanian shilling looks like). Kenya is also the foreign investor that has created the highest number of jobs in Tanzania…

-WRONG kwa sababu biggest Foreign investor in TZ ni WHITE SOUTH AFRICANS na pili serious business pple wouldnt have a problem of knowing a currency they are trading with..typical Kenyans! always arrogant na kujitia ujuaji tu

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	• …And yet there is currently a deliberate (but quiet) policy by President Kikwete’s government to frustrate Kenyan investors and businesspersons operating in the country. Not to mention Tanzania’s stalling tactics at the East African community that is costing tax payers in all 3 East African countries a fortune…

-WRONG but the fact remains WATZ wengi hatujali sana hili suala la ONE SIDED east African community so Kenyans should get a grip na namuunga mkono JK kwa hizi jitihada za kuwabana wakenya na hili lisiishie kwa wakenya tu nadhani ingekuwa nzuri likaendelea kwa SA ili kulinda informal Secrtor TZ amabyo inakua katika SLOW pace after all not everything is for sale and Adam Smith would have agreed with me

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	• There is plenty of evidence to suggest that many investors in Tanzania are dumping the rapidly depreciating Tanzanian shilling in favor of the more stable Kenyan shilling. So which country is more stable, Mr Bush?

-WRONG-With one of the highest levels of corruption in a country like Kenya even an idiot like Bush knows mchele ni upi na PUMBA ni zipi how about Kenyans sorting their problems with WHITE SETTELERS in RIFT VALLEY kabla hawajaanza kuingialia mambo ya watu? how about reading Human rights records toka AMNESTY na HUMAN RIGHTS WATCH?

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	• Experts estimate that Tanzania is about 20 years behind Kenya in terms of development. Those who have visited the country and seen the lazy-yet-know-it-all attitude of the people put the real figure at closer to half a century-with no hope of catching up (especially with the attitude being displayed currently at the EAC).

-WRONG..i am deeply offended with "LAZY YET KNOW IT ALL ATTITUDE" if thats the case why cant Kenyans go to invest in Somalia why do they still invest in TZ? pili sijui report hiyo wameitoa wapi lakini according to UNDP-Human Index Report Tanzanian's are overall better than Kenyans..kwa nini hawajiulizi US haikuwaingiza kwenye AGOA? NA wajiulize kwanini UK imewakatia misaada..simple BAD GOVERNANCE .

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	President Bush must have gotten his geography and facts a little mixed up. Poor guy, it’s been a very taxing 6 years as President of the most powerful nation in the world, especially with Osama breathing down his neck.

WRONG-Another simplistic analysis....well Bush won 4 elections in a row sasa iweje asijue Geography,Dude might looks stupid but surely being a a YALE grad says it all...

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	P.S. To add insult to injury Bush has promised to visit Tanzania soon. My advice to the Bush Presidential party. Do not forget two very important items. Namely plenty of generators to generate your own electricity and an interprator who understands Kiswahili, broken English and proper English.

WHAT AN ASS! Bush can go anywhere and last time he went to Pakistan he never cared about their English after all language is a non -issue in 2006 ...typical Kenyan SLAVE Mentality

Kwa leo ni hayo lakini natumai kuwa wengine wanaweza kuvent humu ndani on these stupid KENYANS

-GT

[Ben]

Ninarudia Tena,wakenya hawana haki ya kumkejeli na au kuidharau Tanzania.

Kwanza bado nampa big up waziri wetu wa EAC aliyekataa kuhusiana land ownership na ID zitakazotumika.

Pili wakenya wakae fresh,maanake tunasahihishja makosa.Kwenye utalii,madini na Ardhi tutawafunika very soon.wacha turekebishe makosa ya kisiasa na kiuchumi kwanza.

Si vizuri kuongea vibaya juu ya sisi wenyewe kwa wenyeww waafrika au brothers kama Kenya na TZ,but inabidi.Kenya wakiendelea hivi tutachoka.Government ijenge viwanda vya ndani sasa halafu tuone bidhaa za wakenya watanunua akina nani.

Najua kuna wakenya wajanja na wene akili hata bongo suala liko hivyo hivyo.Sio wakenya wote but most of them have the same attitude towards Tanzania.

Waachane na JK ,ni rais wetu.Tanzania is a sovereign state na kamwe hatuwezi kusalimisha haki na uhuru wetu kwa taifa au mtu yeyote.Nitaipigania hadi tone langu la mwisho.Wakenya wanadai kikwete hakukutana na member wa EAC walipokua Arusha.Kwani wanataka akutane nao ili iweje? The man is serious in Business.He's for Tanzanians not for Kenyans.Tangu lini chakula cha mtoto akapewa Mbwa?

[Bulesi]

Kama hawa Nyang'au wangekuwa bora kuliko sisi kwa vigezo vyote muhimu vya maendeleo, mbona sisi katika nchi zote za EAST AFRICA have qualified kupata fedha za MILLENIUM CHALLENGE ACCOUNT na wao hawakufuzu!! Hawana sababu yeyote ya kumdhihaki Jakaya kama ana mapungufu yake hayo yanatuhusu sisi tuliyemchagua. Wao watatue matatizo yao ya kuchinjana kwanza; wanakimbilia huku kwa sababu we are stable.

[Mshiiri]

I read a lot of posts at You Missed This: Bush Discusses Instability In Kenya With Kikwete and they are all inferences of WHO ARE REALLY KENYANS. I will elaborate. If Kikuyu hates Luo it is not an exception that each tribe individually, generally and specifically to hate Tanzanians. Huu muungano ufe tu hauna haja wanataka haraka ikiwa kuna kitu wanakihitaji haraka. Sisi watanzania hatukioni!!! Kwanza wafanye shirikisho la Kikuyu na Luo kisha waje au mnasemaje Watanzania?

[Mpita Njia]

Kama mshiiri anavyosema, mimi wala sishangazwi ya wakenya kuwachukia watanzania kwa sababu wao wenyew kwa wenyew wanaonana maadui, sembuse watanzania! Hawa ni watu wa kuwaangalia kwa makini sana, watatumaliza kma wanavyomalizana wenyewe tusipokuwa makini

[HellFire20]

Narrow minded Kenyans? I dont think so.What is it with you people everything that a Kenyan does is evil, that is despite the fact Kenyans tend to do things and some how seem to suceed.
Need i give you examples:
SPORTS: Football your national Team the so called Taifa Star is no where despite you people going all the way to football capital of the world(Brazil) to get a coach and all the hullabalo about your qualifications you didnt go far.Kenya a local coach, local players, some not so smooth adminstrative issues but we made it.At least there is going to be a nations cup appaerance for us in Angola in 2010 a real nations cup that is.Do you have any other sports you participate in any one there remind me.is it wrestling? no i dont think so.Cricket that too?. Lets go to our narrow minded Northern neighbours as some of you have put it.
Athletics best of the best, rugby7s 6 Ranked nation in the world(IRB) Standings.Women Volleyball 13th in the world 1st in Africa.Cricket let me not finish.
REGIONAL INTEGRATION:Your politicians have brainwashed you to believe once EAC comes into being Ugandans and Kenyans and the rest will come to your treasured nation and grab you most cherished pieces of real estate.Thats the most pathetic piece of excuse i have ever come across why simply because you dont have the capicity to develop that land you lack the know how, technology or even quality animals and crops. Kenyans and Ugandans will help with that but to you it would better you sat pretty doing and gaining nothing from that land rather than other people coming and developing it.
KILIMANJARO: I have gone through this forum and seen how you fellows keep saying that we kenyans market Kilimanjaro as being in Kenya.my question is where did that happen? when did it happen?.Kilimanjaro is in TZ will always be in TZ and there has never been a time that it was in Kenya.
In a nut shell you people have your work cut out there is alot to proof and please ooh please dont allow your self doubts and inferiority complex stop achieving you goals i know you peple can.

[Bulesi]

We Tanzanians are not in a hurry with this Regional Intergration thing because we want to give time to our partner states to sort out their mess first. You kenyans sort your land issues that have precipitated ethnic cleansing in your country; ugandans should also come to terms with Konny in the north. We don't want you guys to bring to us your baggage through this union!!

[DMussa]

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	Narrow minded Kenyans? I dont think so.What is it with you people everything that a Kenyan does is evil, that is despite the fact Kenyans tend to do things and some how seem to suceed. Need i give you examples: SPORTS: Football your national Team the so called Taifa Star is no where despite you people going all the way to football capital of the world(Brazil) to get a coach and all the hullabalo about your qualifications you didnt go far.Kenya a local coach, local players, some not so smooth adminstrative issues but we made it.At least there is going to be a nations cup appaerance for us in Angola in 2010 a real nations cup that is.Do you have any other sports you participate in any one there remind me.is it wrestling? no i dont think so.Cricket that too?. Lets go to our narrow minded Northern neighbours as some of you have put it. Athletics best of the best, rugby7s 6 Ranked nation in the world(IRB) Standings.Women Volleyball 13th in the world 1st in Africa.Cricket let me not finish. REGIONAL INTEGRATION:Your politicians have brainwashed you to believe once EAC comes into being Ugandans and Kenyans and the rest will come to your treasured nation and grab you most cherished pieces of real estate.Thats the most pathetic piece of excuse i have ever come across why simply because you dont have the capicity to develop that land you lack the know how, technology or even quality animals and crops. Kenyans and Ugandans will help with that but to you it would better you sat pretty doing and gaining nothing from that land rather than other people coming and developing it. KILIMANJARO: I have gone through this forum and seen how you fellows keep saying that we kenyans market Kilimanjaro as being in Kenya.my question is where did that happen? when did it happen?.Kilimanjaro is in TZ will always be in TZ and there has never been a time that it was in Kenya. In a nut shell you people have your work cut out there is alot to proof and please ooh please dont allow your self doubts and inferiority complex stop achieving you goals i know you peple can.

I might as well group you in the narrow minded Kenyan's category. Have you ever thought of anything big in your life? why are you nagging us to come join you while you are not even in good terms with yourselves??
Much has been said about Tanzania i think you Kenyan's should stop and find your own issues to discuss and not going around bragging about our leaders!

Lets respect one another....

[Mshiiri]

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	Narrow minded Kenyans? I dont think so.What is it with you people everything that a Kenyan does is evil, that is despite the fact Kenyans tend to do things and some how seem to suceed. Need i give you examples: SPORTS: Football your national Team the so called Taifa Star is no where despite you people going all the way to football capital of the world(Brazil) to get a coach and all the hullabalo about your qualifications you didnt go far.Kenya a local coach, local players, some not so smooth adminstrative issues but we made it.At least there is going to be a nations cup appaerance for us in Angola in 2010 a real nations cup that is.Do you have any other sports you participate in any one there remind me.is it wrestling? no i dont think so.Cricket that too?. Lets go to our narrow minded Northern neighbours as some of you have put it. Athletics best of the best, rugby7s 6 Ranked nation in the world(IRB) Standings.Women Volleyball 13th in the world 1st in Africa.Cricket let me not finish. REGIONAL INTEGRATION:Your politicians have brainwashed you to believe once EAC comes into being Ugandans and Kenyans and the rest will come to your treasured nation and grab you most cherished pieces of real estate.Thats the most pathetic piece of excuse i have ever come across why simply because you dont have the capicity to develop that land you lack the know how, technology or even quality animals and crops. Kenyans and Ugandans will help with that but to you it would better you sat pretty doing and gaining nothing from that land rather than other people coming and developing it. KILIMANJARO: I have gone through this forum and seen how you fellows keep saying that we kenyans market Kilimanjaro as being in Kenya.my question is where did that happen? when did it happen?.Kilimanjaro is in TZ will always be in TZ and there has never been a time that it was in Kenya. In a nut shell you people have your work cut out there is alot to proof and please ooh please dont allow your self doubts and inferiority complex stop achieving you goals i know you peple can.

I suspect this is stupid if not non sense! Why do not you develop Kenya have peace and harmony one another; kikuyu and luo etc.. KANU and ODM etc.. solve poverty in the kibera slums, and the rest out of Nairobi city leave alone street kids in Nairobi; find better places to house and feed them.

By the way what is your national language? I suspect you are just a slave if you do not have a national language. And one who does not have a national language is idiot and can be manipulated like nothing else.

Stay in Kenya. We Tanzanians are used to listen to our hearts for we are full of love; imagine more than 170 tribes living in peace and harmony and just two bloody f*cken tribes in Kenya fighting and killing each other like hell.

I suggest along as well that you form a Kikuyu and Luo cooperation first before coming to a larger scale. I think it is wisest.

[HellFire20]

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	I suspect this is stupid if not non sense! Why do not you develop Kenya have peace and harmony one another; kikuyu and luo etc.. KANU and ODM etc.. solve poverty in the kibera slums, and the rest out of Nairobi city leave alone street kids in Nairobi; find better places to house and feed them. By the way what is your national language? I suspect you are just a slave if you do not have a national language. And one who does not have a national language is idiot and can be manipulated like nothing else. Stay in Kenya. We Tanzanians are used to listen to our hearts for we are full of love; imagine more than 170 tribes living in peace and harmony and just two bloody f*cken tribes in Kenya fighting and killing each other like hell. I suggest along as well that you form a Kikuyu and Luo cooperation first before coming to a larger scale. I think it is wisest.

Hey hey stop boiling before you even know why you are being cooked for in the first place. This discussion is about harnessing the potential that EAC neighboring countries have in order for them to move forward.Now if you cant see it that way my friend even God cant help you its that easy.I am a Kenyan and i am proud at that.We have our issues and are not homogeneous as a society and it would be unrealistic to expect all of us to agree on everything.
On the issue of Kibera its just a small portion of Nairobi.just 3% of Nairobi that is the rest we go Dar e salaam only 58% of your population have access to drinking water 1% in the entire nation have access to inconsistent thermal fed electricity.Schools in certain parts of Tz don't have English teachers why in a nation of 40+ million none of you can teach English.I know some of you will say its a foreign language but whether you like it or not and bury your heads in the sand everyone uses it even the Chinese with over a billion Mandarin speakers have come to realize it albeit the hard way its the global language.(and for your info I was taught Swahili as a second language in School i use it and its my national language)

Its a shame you cant see the need for integration and you keep running to your boyfriends (South Africa) yet they don't benefit you case in point the fiber Optic cable from the UAE that was to connect the East coast of Africa you decided to go with SA what happened that project has never even started.Kenya Uganda and Rwanda decided to go their way the results by the end 1st quarter 0f 2009 the project will have been completed what that means the internet connectivity and the speed of doing business for the three countries you on the other hand will be mark timing as usual.

I happened to have once attended a military exercise called 'March and shoot" it comprised your military Uganda and Kenya.During that performance i was surprised to see the lack of know how of some very basic military tactics your peoples performance was below par compared to Uganda they the competitive edge and their desire to learn was exemplary.(they are whiney)

Again i am not trying to belittle and patronize you i am just stating facts no matter how painful they are too you someone just have to say them. Peace.

[DMussa]

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	Hey hey stop boiling before you even know why you are being cooked for in the first place. This discussion is about harnessing the potential that EAC neighboring countries have in order for them to move forward.Now if you cant see it that way my friend even God cant help you its that easy.I am a Kenyan and i am proud at that.We have our issues and are not homogeneous as a society and it would be unrealistic to expect all of us to agree on everything. On the issue of Kibera its just a small portion of Nairobi.just 3% of Nairobi that is the rest we go Dar e salaam only 58% of your population have access to drinking water 1% in the entire nation have access to inconsistent thermal fed electricity.Schools in certain parts of Tz don't have English teachers why in a nation of 40+ million none of you can teach English.I know some of you will say its a foreign language but whether you like it or not and bury your heads in the sand everyone uses it even the Chinese with over a billion Mandarin speakers have come to realize it albeit the hard way its the global language.(and for your info I was taught Swahili as a second language in School i use it and its my national language) Its a shame you cant see the need for integration and you keep running to your boyfriends (South Africa) yet they don't benefit you case in point the fiber Optic cable from the UAE that was to connect the East coast of Africa you decided to go with SA what happened that project has never even started.Kenya Uganda and Rwanda decided to go their way the results by the end 1st quarter 0f 2009 the project will have been completed what that means the internet connectivity and the speed of doing business for the three countries you on the other hand will be mark timing as usual. I happened to have once attended a military exercise called 'March and shoot" it comprised your military Uganda and Kenya.During that performance i was surprised to see the lack of know how of some very basic military tactics your peoples performance was below par compared to Uganda they the competitive edge and their desire to learn was exemplary.(they are whiney) Again i am not trying to belittle and patronize you i am just stating facts no matter how painful they are too you someone just have to say them. Peace.

mumbled crap!!!
Go ahead and join Uganda, Burundi & Rwanda i think those countries match your Kenyan personality and vision!!! "March to shoot" !

How many pple in kenya have access to drinking water? Food? Shelter? How many pple are there in Nairobi and 3% of the pple being in Kibera only doesnt seem to be an issue to you!!?

You have so many ethnic groups going around killing one another just 4days ago i saw it in the news Mungiki & likes but this isn't an issue to you? The problem with you kenyans is that you talk alot.....make noise but dont touch/help on your own issues?? How can we join you? So that we also have a Mungiki group in Tz to kill our lovely brothers & sisters? men this is just too much you are asking!!!!

Hellfire go back to your Kibaki and sit down solve your issues before 2012 as i can see you have a long way to go...dont be surprised if 2012 turns to be like Rwanda's genocide 1990's!!!