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US Media Campaign to Discredit Iranian Election
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US Media Campaign to Discredit Iranian Election

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the Iranian election a fraud? That’s what our great western media sources want us to believe. While scanning through the coverage, I could not find one mainstream news article which covered the election results in an objective, unbiased manner. Either prominently displayed in the title or first paragraph, each of the articles suggest the election was a fraud. The obvious question arises - If their electoral system can’t be trusted, why were they watching the results so “closely” in the first place? I’d probably find better things to do then obsess over the results of a rigged game, but hey that’s just me.

It’s worth noting that Iran, unlike the US, does not use electronic voting machines which are easily tampered with. They actually have paper ballots. It’s also important to point out the health of their electoral process. They had an 85% turnout! We, “the champions of democracy” turnout only a fraction of that percentage for our presidential elections. In fact 2 out of 3 American citizens find something better to do during election day.

Reuters Iran’s election result staggers analysts
Hard-liner Mahmoud Ahmadinejad defeated moderate challenger Mirhossein Mousavi by a surprisingly wide margin in Iran’s presidential election, official results showed on Saturday. Mousavi derided the tally as a “dangerous charade.’

Fox News: U.S. Monitoring Iran’s Election Results
U.S. officials are casting doubt over the results of Iran’s election, in which the government declared President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad the winner Saturday…U.S. analysts find it “not credible [Notice the usual UN-NAMED "US Officials and Analysts]

MSNBC: Violence flares as Ahmadinejad wins Iran vote
Riot police battled with protesters Saturday as officials announced that President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad had won a landslide election victory. His opponent denounced the results as ‘treason’….Ahmadinejad had the apparent backing of the ruling theocracy.

CNN: Ahmadinejad wins landslide in disputed election
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has been declared the big winner in the country’s election, but his chief rival and supporters in the Tehran streets are crying foul.

NY Times: Ahmadinejad Is Declared Victor in Iran

The Iranian government declared an outright election victory for President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on Saturday morning, and riot police officers fought with supporters of the opposition candidate, Mir Hussein Moussavi, who insisted that the election had been stolen.

Time Magazine: Protests Greet Ahmadinejad Win in Iran: ‘It’s Not Possible!
Iran’s Interior Minister announced Saturday that incumbent president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad had won 63.29% of the vote in the nation’s closely watched presidential poll. The announcement, greeted with widespread skepticism by Iranian opposition supporters and by foreign analysts, has brought thousands of people onto the streets where they have encountered a strong police presence and the threat of violence.

Was the election stolen? According to the Iranian Interior Minister Sadeq Mahsouli, there has been no ‘written complaint’ about voter fraud. He declared that the presidential elections were conducted in a manner that ruled out the possibility of voter fraud. “No violations that may have influenced the vote have been reported, and we have received no written complaint,” he said in response to a question posed by an Italian reporter.

It’s also worth mentioning that contrary to what our media would have us believe, Ahmadinejad doesn’t have much power in Iran. The President is not the most powerful person in the country. He is not the commander in chief and does not control the army and the intelligence and security services. He does not have the power to go to war. Those powers are reserved for the supreme leader of Iran Ayatollah Khomeini.
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Serikali ya Marekani siku zote haioni dhambi zake inaona za wngine. Siku zote hutaka nchi zingine zifuate mfumo wake(kisa cha "Cold War"). Unajua Marekani kupitia CIA huwa wanafanya uchochezi? Kama kura ziliibwa au la hiyo kazi wawaachie wenyewe Iran. Iran ina kiongozi wa kidini ambae ni Ayatollah na huwa ana maamuzi ya mwisho katika kila kitu na yeye kashaa muunga mkono Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Vyombo vya magharibi viseme vinavyo taka ila jamaa ndiyo wanae tena.
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Serikali ya Marekani siku zote haioni dhambi zake inaona za wngine. Siku zote hutaka nchi zingine zifuate mfumo wake(kisa cha "Cold War"). Unajua Marekani kupitia CIA huwa wanafanya uchochezi? Kama kura ziliibwa au la hiyo kazi wawaachie wenyewe Iran. Iran ina kiongozi wa kidini ambae ni Ayatollah na huwa ana maamuzi ya mwisho katika kila kitu na yeye kashaa muunga mkono Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Vyombo vya magharibi viseme vinavyo taka ila jamaa ndiyo wanae tena.
Inaonekana hata hao viongozi wa Kidini wa Iran, Ayatollah na majlis yake wananzimikia jamaa.
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Inaonekana hata hao viongozi wa Kidini wa Iran, Ayatollah na majlis yake wananzimikia jamaa.
Iran Ayatollah ana nguvu zote. Je una fahamu kwamba kabla mtu hauja gombea uraisi ni lazima upate baraka za Ayatollah? Iran raisi si kitu na wala si muendeshaji mkuu wa maswala ya taifa ni Ayatollah. Kama kweli watu wana tatizo na matokeo pamoja na hao Wamarekani wakumfuata ni Ayatollah ambae ana nguvu za kukubali au kukataa matokeo. Wananchi wa kawaida hawawezi kuinua sauti kumsema Ayatollah na Marekani wanajua madhara ya kumsema Ayatollah. Ayatollah atakua na sababu zake za kumtaka Ahmadinejad aongoze na kama asingemtaka sasa hivi Ahmadinejad angejiandaa tu kuachia ngazi. IN IRAN THE ALL POWERFUL IS THE AYATOLLAH......WHAT AYATOLLAH SAYS IS LAW.
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Unafiki tu,

Hivi wanasahau Bush alivyoiba kura kule Frorida 2000??
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Unafiki tu,

Hivi wanasau Bush alivyoiba kura kule Frorida 2004??
Mkuu ilikuwa 2000 dhidi ya Al Gore na siyo 2004.
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Iran Ayatollah ana nguvu zote. Je una fahamu kwamba kabla mtu hauja gombea uraisi ni lazima upate baraka za Ayatollah? Iran raisi si kitu na wala si muendeshaji mkuu wa maswala ya taifa ni Ayatollah. Kama kweli watu wana tatizo na matokeo pamoja na hao Wamarekani wakumfuata ni Ayatollah ambae ana nguvu za kukubali au kukataa matokeo. Wananchi wa kawaida hawawezi kuinua sauti kumsema Ayatollah na Marekani wanajua madhara ya kumsema Ayatollah. Ayatollah atakua na sababu zake za kumtaka Ahmadinejad aongoze na kama asingemtaka sasa hivi Ahmadinejad angejiandaa tu kuachia ngazi. IN IRAN THE ALL POWERFUL IS THE AYATOLLAH......WHAT AYATOLLAH SAYS IS LAW.
kweli...lakini nadhani the real power iko ndani ya Assembly of Experts. Hawa wanaweza kumtoa Ayatollah. System yao iko very interesting...Sijui sasa kama ni bora zaidi katika kuzuia corruption na unang'anizi wa madaraka kuliko system ya direct representation? What do u think?
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kweli...lakini nadhani the real power iko ndani ya Assembly of Experts. Hawa wanaweza kumtoa Ayatollah. System yao iko very interesting...Sijui sasa kama ni bora zaidi katika kuzuia corruption na unang'anizi wa madaraka kuliko system ya direct representation? What do u think?
You know this system ina uzuri wake na ubaya wake. Uzuri ni kwamba kwenye system kama hiyo mambo yanaenda haraka na hamna haja ya kukaa muda mrefu bila maamuzi. Kukuwa na important decision Ayatollah ana amua imetoka. Ni kama kwenye nyumba baba ata shauriana na mama but at the end of the day, when it comes down to it baba can end the argument na mambo yana kwisha. Tatizo ni kwamba if all powers rest in one man basi akiwa corrupted there is nothing you can do about it. So i think this only works when the man with power is a great leader la sivyo umuweke JK kuwa Ayatollah mumekwisha. I think in a situation like Iran it comes down to who is the Ayatollah, if he is a wise man than this system works perfectly if not.....
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You know this system ina uzuri wake na ubaya wake. Uzuri ni kwamba kwenye system kama hiyo mambo yanaenda haraka na hamna haja ya kukaa muda mrefu bila maamuzi. Kukuwa na important decision Ayatollah ana amua imetoka. Ni kama kwenye nyumba baba ata shauriana na mama but at the end of the day, when it comes down to it baba can end the argument na mambo yana kwisha. Tatizo ni kwamba if all powers rest in one man basi akiwa corrupted there is nothing you can do about it. So i think this only works when the man with power is a great leader la sivyo umuweke JK kuwa Ayatollah mumekwisha. I think in a situation like Iran it comes down to who is the Ayatollah, if he is a wise man than this system works perfectly if not.....
Umejibu kama politician...Now, you personally, would you like such a system? Do you trust humans not to abuse power?
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Umejibu kama politician...Now, you personally, would you like such a system? Do you trust humans not to abuse power?
We already have such a system sema it's not official and the power is not vested in one man per say but in one party. Serikali ni ya CCM, bunge 80% in CCM. Raisi tayari ana nguvu nchi which can not be challenged. Mahakama ambacho kingekua chombo cha kutetea haki za wananchi bila kuogopa viongozi nayo ina influence ya CCM. CCM has all the power in the country and whoever controls CCM is the Ayatollah of Tanzania. Nchi isipo kuwa na checks and balances jua kuna mtu mmoja au kikundi kimoja chenye all the say. Personally nataka system ya checks and balances Tanzania because history has proven us time and time again that we can't trust one man to have all the power in Tanzania.
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