US Media Campaign to Discredit Iranian Election

US Media Campaign to Discredit Iranian Election

By Charting StockSee also:-Lights turned off on media after elections: The AFP news agency reported that Iran’s wireless telephone network was shut down at 5:30pm GMT (10:00pm in Tehran), just as incumbent president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was making a television appearance to congratulate himself on a "great victory".
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June 13, 2009 "Charting Stocks" -- -Was the Iranian election a fraud? That’s what our great western media sources want us to believe. While scanning through the coverage, I could not find one mainstream news article which covered the election results in an objective, unbiased manner. Either prominently displayed in the title or first paragraph, each of the articles suggest the election was a fraud. The obvious question arises - If their electoral system can’t be trusted, why were they watching the results so “closely” in the first place? I’d probably find better things to do then obsess over the results of a rigged game, but hey that’s just me.
It’s worth noting that Iran, unlike the US, does not use electronic voting machines which are easily tampered with. They actually have paper ballots. It’s also important to point out the health of their electoral process. They had an 85% turnout! We, “the champions of democracy” turnout only a fraction of that percentage for our presidential elections. In fact 2 out of 3 American citizens find something better to do during election day.

Reuters Iran’s election result staggers analysts
Hard-liner Mahmoud Ahmadinejad defeated moderate challenger Mirhossein Mousavi by a surprisingly wide margin in Iran’s presidential election, official results showed on Saturday. Mousavi derided the tally as a “dangerous charade.’

Fox News: U.S. Monitoring Iran’s Election Results
U.S. officials are casting doubt over the results of Iran’s election, in which the government declared President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad the winner Saturday…U.S. analysts find it “not credible [Notice the usual UN-NAMED "US Officials and Analysts]

MSNBC: Violence flares as Ahmadinejad wins Iran vote
Riot police battled with protesters Saturday as officials announced that President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad had won a landslide election victory. His opponent denounced the results as ‘treason’….Ahmadinejad had the apparent backing of the ruling theocracy.

CNN: Ahmadinejad wins landslide in disputed election
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has been declared the big winner in the country’s election, but his chief rival and supporters in the Tehran streets are crying foul.

NY Times: Ahmadinejad Is Declared Victor in Iran

The Iranian government declared an outright election victory for President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on Saturday morning, and riot police officers fought with supporters of the opposition candidate, Mir Hussein Moussavi, who insisted that the election had been stolen.

Time Magazine: Protests Greet Ahmadinejad Win in Iran: ‘It’s Not Possible!
Iran’s Interior Minister announced Saturday that incumbent president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad had won 63.29% of the vote in the nation’s closely watched presidential poll. The announcement, greeted with widespread skepticism by Iranian opposition supporters and by foreign analysts, has brought thousands of people onto the streets where they have encountered a strong police presence and the threat of violence.

Was the election stolen? According to the Iranian Interior Minister Sadeq Mahsouli, there has been no ‘written complaint’ about voter fraud. He declared that the presidential elections were conducted in a manner that ruled out the possibility of voter fraud. “No violations that may have influenced the vote have been reported, and we have received no written complaint,” he said in response to a question posed by an Italian reporter.

It’s also worth mentioning that contrary to what our media would have us believe, Ahmadinejad doesn’t have much power in Iran. The President is not the most powerful person in the country. He is not the commander in chief and does not control the army and the intelligence and security services. He does not have the power to go to war. Those powers are reserved for the supreme leader of Iran Ayatollah Khomeini.

[MwanaFalsafa1]

	Quote:	Mtoto
	let me get this straight. Kwanza umeniambia niseme what i would do kusaidia Tanzania. Nikakwambia nitaweza hizo aggressive measures za term goals. Sasa wewe ukasema ni kitu kilicho obvious na kinachotumika. Sawa. Sasa unataka nikutajie nchi ambazo hazitumii targets whether short term or long term? Mimi sioni kwa nini nitaje maana mimi sijasema hakuna nchi isiyokuwa nazo. Wewe unayesema ni kilicho obvious katika muongozo wa nchi, unaweza kunitajia short term na long term goals za Tanzania?

Hatuelekei kuwa na clear short term and long term goals ndiyo maana maendeleo yetu niya taratibu sana.

[MwanaFalsafa1]

	Quote:	Mzalendohalisi
	1. Mtoto & Mwanafalsafa hii discusion hapo juu imeenda shule! Poa! 2. Sasa..why Mwal. failed?? Sii alijaribu kuwaweka watu ktk vijiji vya Ujamaa?? Au alikuwa mpole mno?? Au hawakuwa tayari bado kubadilika?? Je Watz sasa wapo tayari kubadilika??

Mfumo wa ujamaa haufanyi kazi. USSR waliutumia mwishoni wakautupa. China nao wana anza kuwa more open towards a capitalist market. Communism is simply a failed ideology na kwa mawazo yangu hata tunge fanya nini tusinge fanikiwa.

[Mtoto]

	Quote:	Mzalendohalisi
	1. Mtoto & Mwanafalsafa hii discusion hapo juu imeenda shule! Poa! 2. Sasa..why Mwal. failed?? Sii alijaribu kuwaweka watu ktk vijiji vya Ujamaa?? Au alikuwa mpole mno?? Au hawakuwa tayari bado kubadilika?? Je Watz sasa wapo tayari kubadilika??

1. Asante mkuu. Watu wengine mnaruhusiwa kuchangia mada. Ndo maana ya kujiunga na JF.

2. Siasi ya ujamaa haiwezi kufanya kazi katika wanadamu. On paper inaonekana na moja ya siasa bora, lakini kwa sababu sisi binadamu ni viumbe wenye ubinafsi, uwezo wa kufikiri na tofauti za mawazo, ndio maana haiwezi kufanya kazi. Kama Mwanafalsafa alivyosema, imejaribiwa na nchi nyingi, USSR, China na hata sasa ivi Cuba bado wanapambana nayo. Lakini zote zimeshindwa. Ukiangalia katika nchi zote zenye mfumo wa kijamaa, au zilizojaribu ujamaa, wananchi wake walikuwa oppressed sana. Hii ni sababu, binadamu tunatofautiana sana katika kufanya maamuzi yetu. Kitu utakachodhani ni bora, mwingine anaweza kuona ni uupuzi. Sasa kwa kusudi la kuweza kuwaweka wote muwe na sera moja, ni lazima kwanza kupinga mawazo mbadala. Na hili lilitokea hadi Tanzania chini ya Nyerere...kina Oscar Kambona, nk walikimbia nchini kabisa.
Nyerere alifail kutokana na upole wake, (kitu ambacho tushukuru), na kukosa support ya kutosha kutoka kwa wajamaa wenzake (China na USSR). Ukumbuke katika kipindi cha miaka ya 70, kulitokea zile oil shocks mbili. Hizi zilivuruga kabisa mambo na huku ukichangia vita vya Uganda, basi uchumi wetu ulidorora mbaya. Nchi ilikuwa haina chakula ya kutosha, nk. Nyerere alikuwa hana ujanja bali kurudi kwa nchi za magharibi kwa misaada. Na hapo ndipo ilipombidi atoke madarakani na kuachia mfumo wa soko huru.

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	Hatuelekei kuwa na clear short term and long term goals ndiyo maana maendeleo yetu niya taratibu sana.

Ungependa hizo short term goals na long term goals ziwe zipi?

[Mtoto]

ohh...Mwanafalsafa kwako wewe unadhani maendeleo ni nini hasa? Yani what is your definition ya kuwa developed?

[Emma M.]

Useless

[MwanaFalsafa1]

	Quote:	Mtoto
	ohh...Mwanafalsafa kwako wewe unadhani maendeleo ni nini hasa? Yani what is your definition ya kuwa developed?

Sorry for the delay in response. Maendeleo ni kusonga mbele. Kwangu mimi maendeleo ni kama ifuatavyo:

1.Badget kuji tegemea. Serikali iweze kujitegemea kwenye bajeti kwa 100%.
2.Kila anaye weza kusoma asome to the highest level they can reach
3.Sekta ya afya iweze kuhudumia wananchi wake kwa maana mtu asife kwa ajili hamna wahudumu au vifaa.
4.Tuji tosheleze kwenye chakula
5.Miundombinu ya kisasa
6.Tuwe na viwanda vinavyo kidhi mahitaji yetu
9.Tuwe na industry inayo husika na science and technology
10.Basic needs ziwepo kwa kila mwananchi na kwa bei ambayo mwananchi wa kawaida ata mudu.

Hii ni outline tu ya haraka haraka nikitulia nitaipangilia vizuri zaidi. Je wewe definition yako ya maendeleo ni nini?

[MwanaFalsafa1]

	Quote:	Emma M.
	Useless

But you still found the time to read and comment? People a such attention seekers.

[Mtoto]

	Quote:	MwanaFalsafa1
	Sorry for the delay in response. Maendeleo ni kusonga mbele. Kwangu mimi maendeleo ni kama ifuatavyo: 1.Badget kuji tegemea. Serikali iweze kujitegemea kwenye bajeti kwa 100%. 2.Kila anaye weza kusoma asome to the highest level they can reach 3.Sekta ya afya iweze kuhudumia wananchi wake kwa maana mtu asife kwa ajili hamna wahudumu au vifaa. 4.Tuji tosheleze kwenye chakula 5.Miundombinu ya kisasa 6.Tuwe na viwanda vinavyo kidhi mahitaji yetu 9.Tuwe na industry inayo husika na science and technology 10.Basic needs ziwepo kwa kila mwananchi na kwa bei ambayo mwananchi wa kawaida ata mudu. Hii ni outline tu ya haraka haraka nikitulia nitaipangilia vizuri zaidi. Je wewe definition yako ya maendeleo ni nini?

Those are good. For me, maendeleo ni upatikanaji wa basic goods, na haki. From there, nchi itaweza kujijenga yenyewe. And i firmly believe hii ndo inatakiwa iwe kazi ya serikali. Sema serikali yetu imedoro. By basic goods i mean; elimu, afya na infastructure. Sio kazi ya serikali kulisha wananchi, bali kuwapa uwezo wa kujilisha. Na kwa kuwapatia infastructure nzuri, elimu na afya, wananchi wataweza kutumia uwezo wao kujimudu wenyewe, labda wawe mananga tu. Pia sheria za kulinda wananchi ni kitu cha lazima. Bongo watu wengi wanadhani maendeleo ni kuwa na majengo kama NY...hahahaha! nadhani those are more of the results of maendeleo.
Infastructure = umeme, maji, barabara (communication routes) including simu, mtandao, na vitu kama FIRE STATIONs (kumbuka BAGAMOYO hapo majuzi tu), nk

[Mtoto]

	Quote:	Emma M.
	Useless

tukusaidiaje?

[Juma Contena]

Mtoto
Ukumbuke katika kipindi cha miaka ya 70, kulitokea zile oil shocks mbili. Hizi zilivuruga kabisa mambo na huku ukichangia vita vya Uganda, basi uchumi wetu ulidorora mbaya. Nchi ilikuwa haina chakula ya kutosha, nk. Nyerere alikuwa hana ujanja bali kurudi kwa nchi za magharibi kwa misaada. Na hapo ndipo ilipombidi atoke madarakani na kuachia mfumo wa soko huru.

nadhani hapo ndipo ukweli wenyewe ulipo tatizo sio the system (ujamaa) tatizo ni hao western europeans. kwanza ni mfumo ambao hawa usaport sio kwamba aufai no bali kwa sababu hau wa-suit wao na mwenendo wao especially umention nchi kama UK ambao wana mfumo wao wa class, na exploitation of the lower classes. off course america was bound to follow the british social structure as it owned the colony and americans today are descendants of the english. ume mention the importance of exploiting people's minds and the cement used to constuct the way of thinking i think its this line of thinking that mzungu always uses if u analyze his approzch of things and how they run their society.
kwanza kabisa hawa jamaa ujifunza wameshaona what triggered other revolutions in their continet and others, once people begin to look in terms inequality and equality it can trigger a movement after all they had lost america as a colony by underestimating the power of people, kwa wenyewe imebidi wa ruhusu Unions so that poor people can have a voice therefore they knew if socialism was to succeed it might trigger a movement in their lands as people would have another angle of comparison after all Karl Max had warned of all this.
sasa ukiwacha ujamaa ushamiri uoni watu wao itakuja siku kuchungulia pembeni na kuona kwa nini wao waonewe na wachache, na ndio maana ni kitu ambacho walikipiga vita na awafanyi biashara na nchi yeyote inayo support that form of system kwa sababu wao wananyingine. sasa iwapo ni nchi chache ndio zina enda na ujamaa utafanya kitu gani na nani zaidi ya ku-exploit what u can only do inside na nchi yenyewe tanznania. umeme mention the fact inorder to move forward u need alot of educated people haya kulikuwa na wangapi enzi za nyerere it was bound to fail.