Anti-Obama Tax Payers Tea Parties.

Nimeonelea nianzishe thread hii kwani ni muhimu...Kumekuwa na vuguvugu linaloendelea hapa USA kutoka kwa matajiri wenye kisasi na Obama ana ambao wameiteka theme nzima ya Boston Tea parties ambazo zilikuwa legit kutokana na mambo serikali iliyokuwa ikiyafanya kipindi hicho,historia ya tea bag parties ilikuwa ni ya ma colonist ambapo walikuwa wakidai kuwa seriali haina popular representation....Na manazi hao wanalink issue hiyo na whats going on na hata ku diriki kusema kuwa kwasababu Obama alinyimwa kura na watu milioni 58 na kupewa kura na watu milioni a little more than 60,then wana justify kuwa uongozi wake siyo popular, na pia kwamba wanakuwa taxed bila mpango,na wakati ukweli ni kwamba hata hizo tea party pia zilikuwa miaka ya nyuma pale ambapo matajiri walilipa kodi pale tu wanapojisikia kufanya hivyo ilhali masikini ilikuwa ni lazima alipe kodi... The question remains....

What, exactly, are the protesters protesting? The marginal tax rate rising 3% for millionaires? Down here is Marc Coopers article

By Marc Cooper
April 15, 2009
The Web is buzzing with information about how to throw an anti-Obama Taxpayer Tea Party, something organizers hope will be held today from Santa Monica to South Carolina. But no need to burn up your bandwidth reading complicated instructions. Here's a simpler recipe:

Go to a hobby store. Buy a scale model of a U.N. One-World-Government Black Helicopter and a tube of glue. Toss the model kit. Sniff the entire tube of glue. You're all set for the party.

I can recall only a few outbreaks of such collective insanity as these tea parties in recent years. There was that time in the mid-1990s when a $19.95 video proving Bill Clinton was some sort of serial killer went viral. And then, a few years back, there was that chilling, televised midnight seance from the floor of the U.S. Congress aimed at reviving the long-brain-dead Terri Schiavo.

And now this. Whip out your Lipton and don your tinfoil hat and join the protest against ... against ... against what exactly?
The original Boston Tea Party was caffeinated by a very simple injustice: American Colonists refused to be taxed by a government that lacked any popular representation. That was remedied a few years later in a heroic struggle that stretched from Concord to Yorktown.

So, if you'll excuse the mixed metaphor, what's the beef behind today's protests? The Obama administration is cutting taxes for all except the very richest of Americans. Reduced withholding is already showing up in millions of paychecks.

Then again, this rash of tea parties is being organized not only by the pseudo-journalists at Fox News (with Glenn Beck, Neil Cavuto and Sean Hannity actively stoking the flames) but also by FreedomWorks, a conservative lobbying outfit headed by former House Majority Leader Dick Armey. I suppose it was Armey's constitutional if morally dubious privilege to have built an entire political career out of defending the wealthy.

But are common folks actually going to dump Earl Grey into Santa Monica Bay because they are outraged, simply infuriated, by the marginal tax rate rising 3% for millionaires?

Or maybe they'll do it for some other reason. The FreedomWorks site says the Tea Party movement began in reaction to President Obama's corporate bailouts and ensuing yawning budget deficits. These same conservatives, however, were mum when George W. Bush erased our budget surplus and put us deep in the red by drunken spending on a pointless war in Iraq and by, yes, granting massive tax rollbacks for the loaded country clubbers who fund the GOP (and Armey's FreedomWorks). Another bothersome detail: The bailouts were also initiated by Bush.

Nobody I know is very pleased with the billions ladled out to teetering banks and corporations. Yet a clear majority of Americans are sophisticated enough to know that these bailouts are a necessary evil and are intended -- unlike the lollipop Bush tax cuts -- not for personal profit but rather as a radical, emergency measure to help Americans keep their jobs, their homes and their retirement.

And while way too many otherwise sane Republicans are actively pandering to the tea-bag battalions, some old-fashioned conservatives are calling out the Teabaggers for their silliness. Writing in Fortune magazine, conservative policy analyst Bruce Bartlett, who has a long anti-tax history, says: "The irony of these protests is that federal revenues as a share of the gross domestic product will be lower this year than any year since 1950. ... The truth is that the U.S. is a relatively low-tax country no matter how you slice the data."

The Tea Party movement, more than anything else, is a rather garish display of a Republican right that seems to have lost not only the national elections but also any semblance of political bearings. Staying on this course, the GOP risks -- in the words of one pundit -- becoming "the Talk Radio Republican Party."

Better put that kettle on, Marge. It's going to be a long and bizarre four years.

Marc Cooper is director of Annenberg Digital News at the Annenberg School for Communication at USC.

[Rodelite]

	Quote:	jmushi1
	Rodelite, right wing nuts wameigeuza platform ya tea parties na kuifanya hate parties,sijui hamfuatilii hizi news ama hamjawaona na kuwasikia baadhi ya hao protesters..Wamekuwa more motivated with hate na si cause ambayo ilianza miaka 200 iliyopita.

Mkuu...You're right on the money....Fox news wamegeuza maana ya hii TEA party na kuifanya "Anti-Obama...No Taxation movement" na hiyo siyo maana yake.
Infact the main organizer of this whole movement made it very clear yesterday that this was not a protest for Tax but more or less "large Govt spending" which in turn impacts tax payers. He also complained about FOX news for having diverted the whole meaning of the TEA party.

[jmushi1]

	Quote:	Rodelite
	Mkuu...You're right on the money....Fox news wamegeuza maana ya hii TEA party na kuifanya "Anti-Obama...No Taxation movement" na hiyo siyo maana yake. Infact the main organizer of this whole movement made it very clear yesterday that this was not a protest for Tax but more or less "large Govt spending" which in turn impacts tax payers. He also complained about FOX news for having diverted the whole meaning of the TEA party.

Haters walitafutia mahali pa kutokea na bado wataendelea kufanya hivyo,wanadai eti ni movement itakayopeleka revolution...Sasa naweza kuona ni kwanini kuna yule mh alitabiri kuwa USA inaweza kugawanyika...Mkuu,this is just the beggining,the way i see it kuna wamarekani ambao hawajui whats going on other than hate politics,this time a bro in the highest office,doesn't set well in the minds of many nuts.

[Brutus]

Brother jmushi, tax sio federal tax tu inayokatwa kwenye paycheck!
Tax code ya mheshimiwa Obama haijatulia, sells tax, capital gain tax, death tax etc zinapanda. Just imagine 1900% Beer Tax Increase in oregon alone, achilia mbali cigarete tax. Kwa hali ya uchumi wa sasa, hii haijatulia!

Huu mpango wa ku-spend spend spend and print the money una-sound kama Zimbabwe. Let's be fair hapa, hizi bailouts zinawanufaisha nani?
Hao 95% anaowazungumzia Pres Obama hawanufaiki hapa, so watu wakiandamana don't call them haters wala teabaggers!
Walipoandamana kupinga vita waliitwa good citizens, wakiandamana kupinga Big Govt, Big spending and tax hikes wanaitwa teabaggers.. come on guys!

[Hofstede]

	Quote:	Brutus
	Brother jmushi, tax sio federal tax tu inayokatwa kwenye paycheck! Tax code ya mheshimiwa Obama haijatulia, sells tax, capital gain tax, death tax etc zinapanda. Just imagine 1900% Beer Tax Increase in oregon alone, achilia mbali cigarete tax. Kwa hali ya uchumi wa sasa, hii haijatulia! Huu mpango wa ku-spend spend spend and print the money una-sound kama Zimbabwe. Let's be fair hapa, hizi bailouts zinawanufaisha nani? Hao 95% anaowazungumzia Pres Obama hawanufaiki hapa, so watu wakiandamana don't call them haters wala teabaggers! Walipoandamana kupinga vita waliitwa good citizens, wakiandamana kupinga Big Govt, Big spending and tax hikes wanaitwa teabaggers.. come on guys!

Tatizo la hawa haters wengi wana uelewa finyu wa tax kama huu nilioonesha hapo kwenye bold. Wanasikiliza kina Rush, Hannity ambao ni real haters, kwa nini wanapinga kitu ambacho Obama ndiyo kwanza ameagiza timu kudraft the code? Huu ni wendawazimu wa kibaguzi wa rangi. Obama anarudisha rates zilizo kuwa wakati wa Bill Clinton, sasa mbona kipindi kile hizi TEA parties, right wing rethugs extremists, hatred gatherings hazikufanyika?. Anything proposed by Obama for them is a problem and they've said that they don't want him to succeed why?, because black people will be proud of him, and there's a possibility for him to have 8 years which they cant afford to be under black presidence

[Brutus]

	Quote:	Hofstede
	Tatizo la hawa haters wengi wana uelewa finyu wa tax kama huu nilioonesha hapo kwenye bold. Wanasikiliza kina Rush, Hannity ambao ni real haters, kwa nini wanapinga kitu ambacho Obama ndiyo kwanza ameagiza timu kudraft the code? Huu ni wendawazimu wa kibaguzi wa rangi. Obama anarudisha rates zilizo kuwa wakati wa Bill Clinton, sasa mbona kipindi kile hizi TEA parties, right wing rethugs extremists, hatred gatherings hazikufanyika?. Anything proposed by Obama for them is a problem and they've said that they don't want him to succeed why?, because black people will be proud of him, and there's a possibility for him to have 8 years which they cant afford to be under black presidence

Kwa nini mtu anayetofautiana ideas na liberals anaitwa hater?

[jmushi1]

House Democrat Leaders: Tea Partiers Are Racist, Nazi, Gun Nuts


If the Obama administration has taken flak for suggesting that conservative groups might be home to domestic terrorists, it looks like some House Democrat leaders are willing to go even further:

But in an interview on Fox TV in San Francisco, Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) chalked up the GOP grass-roots effort as “AstroTurf.”

“This initiative is funded by the high end; we call it AstroTurf, it's not really a grass-roots movement. It's AstroTurf by some of the wealthiest people in America to keep the focus on tax cuts for the rich instead of for the great middle class,” Pelosi said.
Other House Democratic leaders took a different tack: One senior aide has been circulating a document to the media that debunks the effort as one driven by corporate lobbyists and attended by neo-Nazis...

In addition, the tea parties are “not really all about average citizens,” the document continues, saying neo-Nazis, militias, secessionists and racists are attending them. The tea parties are also not peaceful, since reporters in Cincinnati had to seek “police protection” during one of the events, it states.

The suggestions that these tea parties are driven by DC-based groups is laughable; Liz Mair takes a critical look and concludes the charge is baseless. Besides the points that Mair makes, it's worth noting that while there have been dozens of tea parties, few have featured conservative candidates or representatives of DC think tanks and lobbying groups.

As far as the charge that these rallies are composed of Nazis and terrorists, that's hard to reconcile with the pictures of participants. There are too many young children and grandparents. Further, even a strong Obama supporter like Susan Roesgen didn't turn up any violent types at the Chicago Tea Party, despite her best attempt to provoke a strong reaction.

There probably aren't many Democrats who genuinely believe the charges levied by their leadership. Nate Silver guesstimates that about 250,000 people have attended the tea parties - so far. Do Ms. Pelosi and other Democrat leaders think they're all neo-nazis?
If this is a conversation they want to have, however, perhaps Ms. Pelosi can explain the role of Marxists and North Korean sympathizers in the U.S. anti-war movement, or discuss how George Soros bought such influence in the Democratic party. It's not a debate that would help Democrats, since it's relatively easy to show the role of fringe extremists in the Democratic grassroots.

'Senior Democrats' ought to have the courage to publicly assert what they're whispering to the media. But if they're afraid to admit that they're slandering hundreds of thousands of grassroots organizers and activists, is it too much to hope that some reporter will share a copy of these secret talking points?

Source;www.communistcountdown.com

[jmushi1]

	Quote:	Brutus
	Kwa nini mtu anayetofautiana ideas na liberals anaitwa hater?

Brutus,wanachozungumza hao maprotesters ni tofauti sana na unachozungumza hapa kwenye forum,na pia jaribu kufuatilia news. Ukweli ni kwamba right extremist wanaitumia opportunity ya wale haters na kuwa manipulate,wengi wao ni red necks,na sasa wamepata nafasi hiyo ya kuimba wimbo ambao ni kawaida kwa repubs kuimba kuhusu democrats...Kwamba ni big government hence more spending,kilio hicho kimezidi zaidi kwasababu ya matatizo ya kiuchumi ambayo hayakusababishwa na Obama....Narudia mkuu,fuatilia....Kodi zimerudishwa the same rate zilivyokuwa wakati wa Clinton,lakini ulishakia kelele kuhusu hilo zaidi ya kumwinda na hadi karibia kumwangusha kuhusiana na Monica Lewinski? uCHUMI UPO HAPA ULIPO KUTOKANA NA IDEAS HIZO HIZO ZA MTAJIRI WALIKO NYUMA YA TEA PARTIES..Na kwajinsi inavyoonekana,watu wa Bush na wao walishajipanga kivyao na sasa matokeo tunaanza kuyaona..Sasa matatizo ya Bush yote wanamwangushia yeye responsibility,hilo Obama alishaweka wazi kuwa haogopi,lakini cha msingi ni mpango wake wa kufufua uchumi upewe nafasi na ushirikiano,tatizo ambalo bado lipo ni la kisiasa na mchezo umeanza....Mkuu tusubiri tuone kwani ni wazi haya mambo hayataisha soon.

Kwani leo hii tena zile memos za CIA zimetolewa,zile zenye kuonyesha kuhusu torture,lakini baadhi zimekuwa scanned for security reaosons,however,Obama anasema hataki washitakiwe kwasababu wao walikuwa wakitekeleza maelekezo ambayo yalikuwa halali mara baada ya kuwekewa sheria na serikali ya Bush.
Tusubiri tuone.

[Brutus]

You are missing the big picture bro! Fox news wanaweza kuwa wamedandia the whole theme of TEA Parties, but the movement is way far from republicans or democratic point of views. Bailouts and big government vimeanza term ya pili ya G W Bush, na the current president ame-take over na ku-push stimulus bill. Matokeo yake leo unakuta most of State and local governments ziko broke, na njia pekee ya ku-cover costs ni kupandisha kodi. Hii ndio issue inayowakera wengi. Check out California, Oregon, Delaware, Michigan and Wisconsin jinsi sales taxes zinavyopanda ghafla?

Hapa haijalishi anaongea Rush, Sean Hannity or Chris Matthews. it is a matter of common sense. Hawa watu walioandamana jana hawako kwenye database yoyote kama ACCORN or anything like that, and it is unlikely anyone from either party anaweza kuwakusanya tena kwa idadi ile kwenye almost states zote za Union!

[The Truth]

There was outrage, very big one when Bush bailed out the banks. The liberal media forgets that. People realize America is broke and here comes B. Hussein in less than 4 months has spent more money than all presidents from George Washington to G. W. Bush combined. You can't expect Americans to take that lying down.

[Kahinda]

	Quote:	jmushi1
	Nimeonelea nianzishe thread hii kwani ni muhimu...Kumekuwa na vuguvugu linaloendelea hapa USA kutoka kwa matajiri wenye kisasi na Obama ana ambao wameiteka theme nzima ya Boston Tea parties ambazo zilikuwa legit kutokana na mambo serikali iliyokuwa ikiyafanya kipindi hicho,historia ya tea bag parties ilikuwa ni ya ma colonist ambapo walikuwa wakidai kuwa seriali haina popular representation....Na manazi hao wanalink issue hiyo na whats going on na hata ku diriki kusema kuwa kwasababu Obama alinyimwa kura na watu milioni 58 na kupewa kura na watu milioni a little more than 60,then wana justify kuwa uongozi wake siyo popular, na pia kwamba wanakuwa taxed bila mpango,na wakati ukweli ni kwamba hata hizo tea party pia zilikuwa miaka ya nyuma pale ambapo matajiri walilipa kodi pale tu wanapojisikia kufanya hivyo ilhali masikini ilikuwa ni lazima alipe kodi... The question remains.... What, exactly, are the protesters protesting? The marginal tax rate rising 3% for millionaires? Down here is Marc Coopers article By Marc Cooper April 15, 2009 The Web is buzzing with information about how to throw an anti-Obama Taxpayer Tea Party, something organizers hope will be held today from Santa Monica to South Carolina. But no need to burn up your bandwidth reading complicated instructions. Here's a simpler recipe: Go to a hobby store. Buy a scale model of a U.N. One-World-Government Black Helicopter and a tube of glue. Toss the model kit. Sniff the entire tube of glue. You're all set for the party. I can recall only a few outbreaks of such collective insanity as these tea parties in recent years. There was that time in the mid-1990s when a $19.95 video proving Bill Clinton was some sort of serial killer went viral. And then, a few years back, there was that chilling, televised midnight seance from the floor of the U.S. Congress aimed at reviving the long-brain-dead Terri Schiavo. And now this. Whip out your Lipton and don your tinfoil hat and join the protest against ... against ... against what exactly? The original Boston Tea Party was caffeinated by a very simple injustice: American Colonists refused to be taxed by a government that lacked any popular representation. That was remedied a few years later in a heroic struggle that stretched from Concord to Yorktown. So, if you'll excuse the mixed metaphor, what's the beef behind today's protests? The Obama administration is cutting taxes for all except the very richest of Americans. Reduced withholding is already showing up in millions of paychecks. Then again, this rash of tea parties is being organized not only by the pseudo-journalists at Fox News (with Glenn Beck, Neil Cavuto and Sean Hannity actively stoking the flames) but also by FreedomWorks, a conservative lobbying outfit headed by former House Majority Leader Dick Armey. I suppose it was Armey's constitutional if morally dubious privilege to have built an entire political career out of defending the wealthy. But are common folks actually going to dump Earl Grey into Santa Monica Bay because they are outraged, simply infuriated, by the marginal tax rate rising 3% for millionaires? Or maybe they'll do it for some other reason. The FreedomWorks site says the Tea Party movement began in reaction to President Obama's corporate bailouts and ensuing yawning budget deficits. These same conservatives, however, were mum when George W. Bush erased our budget surplus and put us deep in the red by drunken spending on a pointless war in Iraq and by, yes, granting massive tax rollbacks for the loaded country clubbers who fund the GOP (and Armey's FreedomWorks). Another bothersome detail: The bailouts were also initiated by Bush. Nobody I know is very pleased with the billions ladled out to teetering banks and corporations. Yet a clear majority of Americans are sophisticated enough to know that these bailouts are a necessary evil and are intended -- unlike the lollipop Bush tax cuts -- not for personal profit but rather as a radical, emergency measure to help Americans keep their jobs, their homes and their retirement. And while way too many otherwise sane Republicans are actively pandering to the tea-bag battalions, some old-fashioned conservatives are calling out the Teabaggers for their silliness. Writing in Fortune magazine, conservative policy analyst Bruce Bartlett, who has a long anti-tax history, says: "The irony of these protests is that federal revenues as a share of the gross domestic product will be lower this year than any year since 1950. ... The truth is that the U.S. is a relatively low-tax country no matter how you slice the data." The Tea Party movement, more than anything else, is a rather garish display of a Republican right that seems to have lost not only the national elections but also any semblance of political bearings. Staying on this course, the GOP risks -- in the words of one pundit -- becoming "the Talk Radio Republican Party." Better put that kettle on, Marge. It's going to be a long and bizarre four years. Marc Cooper is director of Annenberg Digital News at the Annenberg School for Communication at USC.

Je George Bush alikuwa na kura ngapi wakati wa Al gore "wataalamu wanasema Common sense is not common in "marekani".