Obama's - Post Election Thread

[Susuviri]

Leo taarifa hii imesambaa katika international media:

Al-Qaeda No. 2 Ayman al-Zawahri is criticizing Barack Obama in a new message, calling him a demeaning racial term implying that the president-elect is a black American who does the bidding of whites.

Al-Zawahri says in an audio message, which appeared on militant Web sites Wednesday, that Obama is "the direct opposite of honorable black Americans" like Malcolm X. He calls Obama a "house negro."

The audio plays over still pictures of al-Zawahri, Malcolm X praying, and Obama with Jewish leaders.

In the first public al-Qaeda comment about Obama's electoral victory, al-Zawahri adds that Obama's plan to shift troops to Afghanistan is doomed to failure, because Afghans will resist.

Binafsi nadhani kuwa AlQaeda wanataka kutafuta angle ambayo wanaweza kuendeleza radicalism yao dhidi ya Marekani lakini wamegundua kuwa ni ngumu as Barack Hussein Obama ni rais na favorability yake iko juu duniani hata miongoni mwa Waislamu. Recruitment itazidi kuwa ngumu kwa hiyo wamejaribu kutafuta angle nyingine ya kumponda ili waje kumwita na yeye the Great Evil or whatever.
Wamejaribu kumfananisha Malcolm X na Obama, kitu ambacho ni very weak and poorly argued. Wametumia ile quotation ya Malcolm X aliyosema kuhusu House negoroes and field negroes, ni kutoka speech zake za zamani. Hata hivyo Malcolm X baada ya Hijja alikuwa reformed and distanced himself from these radical stance and that is what led to his death vis-a-vis the Nation of Islam.
Obama is not a Muslim radical and has never been a Muslim, and he has successfully shown that he is mainstream American something that despite Al Qaeda's efforts is actually a good thing in the eyes of the majority of people. but also Obama's experience and knowledge about different countries as far as Indonesia is very important in shaping his view of the world.
Katika statment hii ya Al Qaeda I can only conclude that this terrorist organization is worried about its future role and trying to get attention but soon they will be irrelevant!

[Ukweliii]

Kwa kumuita Obama "house negro." wamewatukana waafrika wote duniani bila kujali imani zao.!!!!!!!

[Ibrah]

Nawashangaa hawa Alqaeda, yaani walidhani kuwa Obama angechukua msimamo tofauti na huo! Obama ni Mmarekani na Mmarekani yeyote anajua uchungu wa Ugaidi wa Sept 11. Yaani walitegemea Obama angeanzisha mazungumzo nao au angechukua msimamo laini dhidi yao. Walikuwa wanaota!

[mugerezi]

these guy are stupid, i think when they see blood shed they become happy...Ni kweli wanajaribu kuvuta attention from another angle.

[lole gwakisa]

Hawa jamaa ubongo wao una matatizo ya kimsingi.Katika dunia hii wanajiona wao kuwa na jibu la kila kitu.Wanaposhindwa na kutandikwa wanaona kama wanaonewa.Hawa Alkaeda are critical about anything but themselves.Watengeneze binadamu wao basi ili waweze kuwaendesha kama gurudumu , pengine itazipendeza imani zao.
Nilikuwa Ground Zero about 10 days ago na naweza kuelewa frustration ya watu wengine juu ya imani hii isiyo na mbele wala nyuma.Watanzania vilevile tukumbuke kuwa hawa jamaa waliua waTanzania mwaka 1998 na hatujalipa kisasi kwa hili. Kumtusi Barack Obama si tu anatusi waAfrika bali vilevile kutudhalilisha. Tutambue ubaguzi wa kiArabu na wasijifiche nyuma ya pazia la dini ya Kiislamu, dini ambayo inaheshimika.

[Susuviri]

Lakini pia ni vyema tukikumbuka kwamba enzi za W. Bush na Guantanamo and other issues, AQ walionekana as if they are starting to make sense esp to many Muslims in Third World countries. Lakini Obama amebadili mtazamo wa dunia. and actually naona hata ma-experts wamekuwa na msimamo kama wa kwetu kuhusu AQ na Obama:

Experts agree that the release of a new tape by Al Qaeda's second in command Ayman al-Zawahri indicates that Al Qaeda feels threatened and is on its heels after Obama's resounding victory. President-elect Obama's diverse background, along with his pledge to reverse many of the policies and approaches of the Bush administration on issues such as detentions at Guantanamo, torture and the war in Iraq has served to dramatically improve America's image, especially in the Muslim world.

Counter-terrorism expert Richard Clarke explained, "Most of all, by returning to American values the world admires, Obama sets al Qaeda back enormously in the battle of ideas, the ideological struggle which determines whether al Qaeda will continue to have significant support in the Islamic world." Having thrived on the decline in America's world image, the impact of Obama's victory provides a direct challenge to Al Qaeda's negative depiction of the United States. Additionally, Obama's emphasis on shifting US attention from Iraq to Afghanistan represents a direct physical threat to Al Qaeda's leadership. America's improved global image and the new administration's focus on Afghanistan threatens Al Qaeda and has led to what experts see as a confused, racist, and off-kilter response reflective of an organization on the defensive.

Actually naungana na Ukwelii na Lole Kwagisa, hawa warabu wametutukana wote. Yaani wanaona kama vile sisi waafrika hatuna uwezo wa kuwa huru kifikra, either we agree with them, or we are "House Negroes! Malcolm X wanayemtukuza ni wa zamani yule Malcolm X kabla ya kifo chake alikuwa tofauti kabisa na hata wao wngemwita "house negro"

[The Truth]

Originally Posted by Susuviri

Al-Qaeda No. 2 Ayman al-Zawahri is criticizing Barack Obama in a new message, calling him a demeaning racial term implying that the president-elect is a black American who does the bidding of whites.

Al-Zawahri says in an audio message, which appeared on militant Web sites Wednesday, that Obama is "the direct opposite of honorable black Americans" like Malcolm X. He calls Obama a "house negro."

The audio plays over still pictures of al-Zawahri, Malcolm X praying, and Obama with Jewish leaders.

In the first public al-Qaeda comment about Obama's electoral victory, al-Zawahri adds that Obama's plan to shift troops to Afghanistan is doomed to failure, because Afghans will resist.

LOL... how exactly do you say "House Negro" in Arabic?

[Koba]

Originally Posted by The Truth

LOL... how exactly do you say "House Negro" in Arabic?

...hellow deluded wannabe truth the plumber,who is the president of United States of America?

[X-PASTER]

Al-Qaeda has warned Barack Obama, the US president-elect, against sending more troops to Afghanistan and vowed to continue attacks against "criminal" America.

In an internet audio message released on Wednesday, Ayman al-Zawahiri, al-Qaeda's second-in-command, said Obama would fail if he followed the policies of George Bush, the current US president.

"What you have announced before ... that you will withdraw [US] troops from Iraq [and send them] to Afghanistan is a policy that is doomed to failure," al-Zawahiri said in the message made available by the SITE Institute, a US organisation that monitors Islamic groups.

"If you still want to be stubborn about America's failure in Afghanistan, then remember the fate of Bush and [Pakistan's former president] Pervez Musharraf, and the fate of the Soviets and British before them," he added.

Al-Zawahiri also referred to Obama and other African-Americans who have served in US government in as "house negroes", an insult that comes from the time of slavery in the US, and used to describe a black person who does the bidding of white masters.

Obama's transition team has declined to comment on the tape, while Sean McCormack, spokesman for the US state department, dismissed the tape as just "more despicable comments from a terrorist".

"If anybody needed ... more of a contrast between what ... the West and the United States stand for, in terms of democracy and what these terrorists stand for, I don't think you need to go any further than those comments," he said.


'Harm America'

In a major interview aired on Sunday, Obama reiterated his campaign promise to begin pulling troops out of Iraq and switch the military focus to Afghanistan.

Al Jazeera's Rob Reynolds in Washington DC said that if many people in the Arab and Muslim world were hoping for big changes in the US approach to dealing with al-Qaeda then they were likely to be disappointed.

Al-Zawahiri's message appeared chiefly aimed at convincing Muslims and Arabs that Obama does not represent a change in US policies.

Al-Zawahri said that Obama is "the direct opposite of honourable black Americans" such as Malcolm X, the 1960's African-American activist.

"America, the criminal, trespassing crusader, continues to be the same as ever, so we must continue to harm it, in order for it to come to its senses," al-Zawahri said.

In his speech, al-Zawahri refers to a November 5 US air raid in Afghanistan, meaning the video was made after that date.

Al-Zawahri said Obama's election has not changed American policies, which he said are aimed at oppressing Muslims and others.

LOL... how exactly do you say "House Negro" in Arabic?

(Abeed A-beit,") = House slave = Mtumishi wa Ndani a.k.a Beki tatu au (Mtumwaa wa ndani ya nyumba).

"house Negro" ni maneno aliyowahi kuyatamka Malcom X, akiwapiga vijembe waafrika wa kimarekani kwa kuwasapoti weupe. Baadae aliwaomba radhi baada ya kutoka hajj.

[The Truth]

Originally Posted by X-PASTER

(Abeed A-beit,") = House slave = Mtumishi wa Ndani a.k.a Beki tatu au (Mtumwaa wa ndani ya nyumba).

"house Negro" ni maneno aliyowahi kuyatamka Malcom X, akiwapiga vijembe waafrika wa kimarekani kwa kuwasapoti weupe. Baadae aliwaomba radhi baada ya kutoka hajj.

So where did the media get the term "Negro"? Or is slave = negro in Arabic? Is the media trying to antagonize Bantus against Arabs or what?