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Old 10th November 2008, 06:52 PM   #1
Tsivangarai akataa mapendekezo ya SADC.
JokaKuu JokaKuu is offline 10th November 2008, 06:52 PM

..hivi kwanini hawampi Tsivangarai hiyo wizara na Zimbabwe ikasonga mbele?

..au kwanini Tsivangarai anakataa hata mapendekezo ya ku-share hiyo wizara ili wazimbabwe wasipate matatizo zaidi?

..baada ya kuwagomea viongozi wote wa SADC ni nani atakuwa na muda wa kusikiliza matatizo ya Zimbabwe??

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MDC rejects Zimbabwe cabinet plan

Mr Tsvangirai says he is 'shocked' by the SADC proposals
Zimbabwean opposition leader Morgan Tsvangirai has rejected a compromise plan aimed at breaking the country's political deadlock.

A summit of southern African leaders had told Zimbabwe's rival parties they should share control of the disputed home affairs ministry.

The call came at the end of a day of talks in Johannesburg by the 15-nation Southern African Development Community.

The summit also said it could send peacekeeping forces into the DR Congo.

'Lacking courage'

Mr Tsvangirai told reporters: "This issue of co-sharing does not work. We have said so ourselves, we have rejected it, and that's the position.

"There is no agreement to co-sharing, to rotation, to swapping of ministries." The SADC was asked to rule and SADC took a decision and that's the position of SADC Tomaz Salomao SADC Executive Secretary

He said his dispute with President Robert Mugabe was about more than who controls the home affairs ministry, which has the police force under its command.

"It is about giving the responsibility to the party that won an election and has compromised its position to share a government with a party that lost," he said.

He argued that since Mr Mugabe's Zanu-PF party had control of the ministries of defence and state security, his Movement for Democratic Change (MDC) should control the police.

Mr Tsvangirai said he remained committed to power-sharing but was "shocked and saddened" by the outcome of the talks.

He told the SADC leaders they lacked the courage to tell Mr Mugabe that his position was wrong.

Mr Mugabe and Mr Tsvangirai signed a power-sharing deal eight weeks ago that would see the MDC leader becoming prime minister, but they have failed to reach an agreement on the formation of a cabinet.

'Good as its gets'

South African President Kgalema Motlanthe, who chaired the summit, said an agreement on power-sharing "remains the only vehicle to help extricate Zimbabwe from her socio-economic challenges".

Zimbabwe is suffering from severe food shortages and rampant inflation.

MINISTRY DIVISION

Zanu-PF: 15 ministries including:
Defence
Foreign affairs
Justice
Local government
Media
Main MDC: 13 ministries including:
Constitutional and parliamentary affairs
Economic planning and investment promotion
Labour
Sport
Arts and culture
Science and technology development
MDC (Mutambara): Three including:
Education
Industry and commerce
Source: Government gazette

Mr Tsvangirai has warned that a million Zimbabweans could starve to death in a year if the political deadlock continues.

Tomaz Salomao, executive secretary of the SADC, said the compromise would mean there would have to be two home ministers, "one appointed by Zanu-PF, one by the MDC".

Mr Salomao told reporters that "the SADC was asked to rule and SADC took a decision and that's the position of SADC".

"Now it's up to the parties to implement," he said.

The BBC's Jonah Fisher, at the summit, says the call effectively backs Mr Mugabe.

Arthur Mutambara, head of an MDC breakaway party which is also involved in the agreement, said the offer was "as good as it gets".

"If we can do the following - national healing, a new constitution, economic recovery, resolve the humanitarian crisis - just doing those four things, we'll create conditions... to have a proper election in which the opposition can win," he said.

"[MDC-Tsvangirai] want more deaths, a few more weeks of deaths, a few more weeks of violation of our rights and then eventually we are going to agree."

In the proposed division of ministries, Zanu-PF also has key posts such as justice and foreign affairs, while Mr Mugabe has reportedly agreed that the MDC could have finance.

But after the MDC accused the security forces of involvement in a campaign of violence against its supporters during this year's election campaign, it insists that it has a share in running them.

Our correspondent says Mr Mugabe has accepted the deal but that Mr Tsvangirai will now hope the matter is taken from SADC and given to other bodies like the UN.

The summit also backed an immediate ceasefire in the DR Congo, where rebel fighting has displaced tens of thousands of people.

"The security situation in DRC is affecting peace and stability in the SADC and Great Lakes region," the group said, adding that it had agreed to send peacekeeping troops into the Congo if necessary.

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Default Re: Tsivangarai akataa mapendekezo ya SADC.

Jokaa kuu

SADC ni kichekesho!

Hivi kweli hata ungekuwa ni wewe ungekubali?

Wewe angalia hiyo distribution ya wizara hapo juu. Do you think kuna lolote hapo? Mimi nimefuatilia kikao cha SADC nimegundua hata SADC wanamuogopa Mugabe kabisa! Its just pathetic.

All in all I advise Morgan to pull out. Mugabe anafikiri yeye ndo mwenye haki ya kuiongoza Zimbabwe as a private company!

Hivi waafrika tulirogwa? Morgan alipata kura kama Mugabe..lakini huyu mzee yeye anaona ndo mwenye haki ya kila kitu.

I say Morgan shoul resist this..inhuman and sadistic move by Mugabe and his henchmen.....
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Masanja,

..wewe ungependekeza wagawane vipi hizo wizara?

..kwa jinsi nilivyoangalia MDC-T wamepewa wizara ambazo kwa kweli zitawapa nafasi ya kushughulikia matatizo ya wananchi wa Zimbabwe.

..hata wizara nyeti kama Finance wamepewa.

..halafu MDC-T wameonekana kuridhika na mgawanyo huo, na kilichobakia kilikuwa hiyo wizara ya mambo ya ndani.
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SADC needs to grow a pair and do whats right, tell Mugabe whats whats, you cant treat dictators with kid gloves.
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I still think it was a mistake for Morgan not to take part in the election, he could have taken part or called for the election to be postponed until an adequate level of oversight was administered.

My comfort level with Morgan stepped down significantly after that, revolutionaries do not fear bloodshed, the few who do, do not give up that easily.

Mugabe won the big jackpot and now we have this unnecessary stallmate.

If only Morgan was not such a coward.
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muhimu kwa bw. morgan. anataka mambo ya
ya ndani ili nae awe na "kajeshi" kake. na wala sio
suala la kuwafikia wananchi na kuwaletea maendeleo.

wananchi wamefungwa goli na wanasiasa.
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Tsivangarai yuko right kwenye hili. Hizo wizara alizopewa ni za kutafutiwa lawama. Hazina haina hela na uchumi umekufa. Chochote atakachofanya ili kujaribu kuufufua atawaudhi wananchi. Na wakati wote Robert ameshika rungu akimkoromea. Morgan alikosea kukubali kushirikiana na huyu dikteta. Yeye angejikalia pembeni amwache afurukute. Sasa amempa loophole ya kutokea.

Hao SADC nao wanazidi kujiaibisha. Heri wangenyamaza tu.
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Kwenye institutions nyingine ni useless. Credibility ya SADC inaendelea kuporomoka kwa kufanya mambo ambayo hayana maana. Sijui wananufaika vipi kwa kumlinda Mugabe, sijui SADC inapata heshima gani kwa kumlinda Mugabe. Au ndio inaaza kuwa kama OAU, klabu ya madikteta?
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George Soros kupitia taasisi zake za The Open Society Initiative for Southern Africa na The Open Society Institute ndiye anayeleta fujo kwenye nchi zinazoendelea kwa kumwaga fedha bila kuingiliwa. Matokeo yake akina Morgan Tsvangirai, Odinga and the alikes (Zanzibar wakiiga)hawakubali kushindwa. Kuna haja gani ya kufanya chaguzi za kidemokrasia kama vyama havikubali kushindwa then wanadai serikali ya mseto.. si watunge sheria ya kupokezana tu tujue moja?

Mbona hawapeleki idea zao za "mshindwa" kupewa umakamu wa rais, uwaziri mkuu au kugawana wizara kwenye nchi zilizoendelea?

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Default Re: Tsivangarai akataa mapendekezo ya SADC.

SADC for yet another time has shown its true colors. A cabal for African leaders in this area to guard their interest and meal and invite only the few they chose to and not otherwise. But a day of reckoning is not far. May be Tsivangarai can show the way!
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