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      Exclamation Why Bagamoyo International Airport will be a white elephant?

      As things seem, His Excellency is determined to build a state of the Art International Airport in Bagamoyo (his hometown)and surprisingly none of our so called Technical experts at the TCAA is daring to tell him of the prospect of that Airport to be null and void. The project that is anticipated to source funds from the Eurobond of $500 million that the country is eyeing by the mid of next year, will be an ill advised allocation of resources if none of us will stand FIRM and OPPOSE H.E. from executing his overly ambitious dreams that offer us NEITHER RELIEF NOR MERCY on our economy that NEEDS BADLY credible INFRASTRUCTURE!

      Probably we should ask ourselves (tax payers) whether, a town of 30,000 inhabitants, 70 km and 56.9 km from Dar es salaam and Zanzibar (an average radius of less than 60 km) respectively; needs an Airport of that size. As far as i know, the town has no social and economic activities that can absorb such a massive investment (revenue-wise). Moreover, the proximity of Bagamoyo to either Dar es salaam or Zanzibar makes it impossible for those huge international jets to incorporate the airport in the Dar and Zanzibar routes since it is uneconomical (as taking off and landing requires burning of a lot of fuel for that distance to make any sense). This leads me to ask one thing, has there been a feasibility study on that project? A cost benefit analysis (CBA)? if yes, who did that? Are our President and Minister in-charged advised wisely?


      I know people inhere are going to respond negatively towards my suggestion but we need to know when and where we inject money into a project, it has to be prudently gained back through tax and revenues collected from using the respective facility. Therefore things like location, area population, and economic and social activities of the recipient area have to be looked in details. It is obviously that Tanzania that is so big; needs infrastructure but it will make more sense if the infrastructure built is put in a manner that serves the mass and can repay the cost of investment (tax payers' money) in time. If at all we want to develop promptly, individual ambitions should be avoided on matters that aim to serve our infrastructural woos.


      No one disagrees that infrastructure is of a paramount importance on improving our daily lives, business environment and to our general competitiveness to the outside World; especially when it comes to attracting investments and enhancing international trade are concerned, but that can only be REALISTIC if we don't take for granted our existing problems on solving the situation on the ground by following our self instincts and forget to face the GENUINE BARRIERS out there. It is obvious true that in Tanzania, there are areas that are completely isolated regardless of being endowed with a lot of untapped potentials e.g. the Western part of Tanzania.


      For instance a city like Mwanza and a town like Kigoma could make more sense economically for this sort of expensive project! Ask me why? Mwanza has a huge population aside Dar es salaam (> 1 million inhabitants), the city has a mid size but growing industries with massive mining activities compared to none in East Africa (e.g. gold, nickel, cobalt, strategic metals and numerous germstones are found there) plus touristic activities i.e. Lake Victoria and the Western Serengeti are in the proximity without forgetting the highly lucrative fishery activities. Whereas Kigoma town has a population of over 150,000 people, a growing lucrative palm oil agro-industry that its potentials remain unexploited, plus untapped tourism activities at Ujiji, Gombe and Mahale Islands and Lake Tanganyika itself not to forget the fishery activities. And most important, Kigoma is a gateway to the western DRC, Rwanda and Burundi!

      Do our technical advisers see this? if so, why not advising their Excellencies what should be the priorities right now? If they are advised and choose to give a deaf ear on the advises given, why should they pursue their ambitions by looking for alternatives if their main agenda is to leave behind a legacy in their hometowns? For instance, if i'm put into task to come up with tangible investment ideas, i would suggest Bagamoyo right now to be in dire need of an airstrip for light aircraft, in dire need of undisputable state of the Art Technical University/College that will as well serve a population in Dar es salaam city and its suburbs, a dire need of a good hospital that can be a state of the Art to accommodate medical Tourism needs esp. taking an advantage of the good beaches the town is endowed with and NOT forgetting international hotels BUT NOT an international airport! Moreover, I would accept a good harbor/port there but AGAIN not before an expansion of those in Dar es salaam, Mtwara and Tanga (in sequential order priority-wise ofcourse).


      Across the border there is a lesson to learn; Kenya under Moi regime and based on Nyayo's nepotistic instincts, built Eldoret International Airport in Eldoret (262 km away from Nairobi) years back that until now has failed to attract International Airlines i.e. it performs under-capacity till now. Moreover under the coalition government of Odinga and Kibaki, a new International Airport has been opened in Kisumu (a well deserving city) in a distance of less than 200 km; that automatically renders the Eldoret International Airport defunct from the little life it had before. As far as our affairs are concerned we are not far from embracing such mistakes; as we are about to undertake such wastage of resources with this project right here in Tanzania.

      It is high time people out-there to act diligently and stop our politicians from misappropriation of our resources. If Kikwete is there to serve the interests of the people of Tanzania (majority) then he should hear this call and NOT waste our RESOURCES particularly via the Eurobond money that is being sought after but ONLY to end up being splashed on this sort of project that is nonviable and the invested resources won't be timely recovered to pay back the loan. That said, it is my strong belief the so envisaged overly ambitious future International Airport undertaking is a "A WHITE ELEPHANT" project and none of us is above the law to be excluded from taking responsibility when it comes into picking pet and lavish projects (with no prospects just Like of Mobutu's and Omar Bongo's extravagances) over prudent ones; that will inflict serious strenuous burdens to this country and hinders the badly economical expansion. It is upon these facts i do take my esteem citizenry responsibility to ask our President to use our RESOURCES wisely and try to emulate ACCOUNTABILITY and TIMELY RESPONSIVENESS as our pleas have always asked ......Pls allocate the resources to the most needy but but proven economically feasible!

      NOTE: Lets discuss facts here and NOT religions OR tribes! Our future is on our SHOULDERS than need SMART and SHARP minds...
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      Utaahira tu huu!

      Mbona Mkapa hakujenga Uwanja Kule kwao Lupaso?

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      Utaahira tu huu!

      Mbona Mkapa hakujenga Uwanja Kule kwao Lupaso?
      kujenga uwanja tu si mbaya ila siyo huo anaotaka kuujenga....ni upotezaji wa rasilimali
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      Huwa nafikiaria sana baadhi ya misemo,mfano; `KULIKO KUKOSA AKILI BORA KUKOSA MALI`
      Ukiangalia viongozi wengi wa Afrika huwa wanafanya vitu ambavyo mwisho wa madaraka yao aitha yawanufaishe wao au jamii yake ya karibu pasipo kufikiria side effects.
      Leo hii tunapiga kelele wizara zihamie DODOMA bila kuweka mikakati ya dhati mf.nyumba za viongozi waziri,nw,katibu mkuu zinajengwa DAR ina maana wakihamia DOM tutazing`oa na kuhama nazo???, siasa zitauwa nchi zetu.
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      Mkapa alijenga lile daraja nae ------ anataka aache kumbukumbu kwao
      WB Tanzania lead economist Jacques Morisset said the GDP doubled in 10 years, but it has failed to produce any significant decline in poverty levels.

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      SI Mkapa tu.mbona hata nyerere hakujenga kwao,
      “Talk slowly but think quickly”

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      Kwanini hataki kujenga Stigler's Gorge? nchi hii sasa hivi inahitaji umeme wa kutosha na wa uhakika!!!... hivi kweli ------ halioni hilo??...
      Just because presidents screws around, it doesn't make a president for screwing around..

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      Quote By Geza Ulole View Post
      kujenga uwanja tu si mbaya ila siyo huo anaotaka kujenga....ni upotezaji wa rasilimali
      Ni mbaya kwa sababu hauna faida.
      watalii wote na asilimia kubwa ya wafanyakazi wa bagamoyo wanakaa Dar,watatumia akina nani?
      hakuna kitu cha ajabu pale ,driving is hardily 30mn DAR-BAGAMOYO,
      Kwangu mm ningejenga mahotel,viwanda etc ndio nitoe hoja ya uwanja
      Kwa barabara natoa pongezi lakini ningepogeza kwa dhati,nderemo na vifijo kama hii four ways ingefika city centre.
      .....Chuma cha reli hakishiki kutu...

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      Mkapa alijenga lile daraja nae ------ anataka aache kumbukumbu kwao
      Daraja la Mkapa lina thamani maradufu maana linaunganisha mikoa mpk nchi...

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      SI Mkapa tu.mbona hata nyerere hakujenga kwao,
      Kuwa makini na hawa ndugu zetu, hawakawii kukubatiza wewe ni Mdini!

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      Kwanini hataki kujenga Stigler's Gorge? nchi hii sasa hivi inahitaji umeme wa kutosha na wa uhakika!!!... hivi kweli ------ halioni hilo??...
      umeme mradi mkuu...

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      Ninavyofahamu Bagamoyo ni mji muhimu ktk historia ya dunia,unahitaji kuwa advertised ili kuwa kivutio muhimu kwa utalii.kwa upande mwingine bagamoyo inatarajiwa kuwa gateway for southern touristic circuit.DAR na bandari yake imeshakuwa finyu mno,inahitaji kupanuliwa(kitu ambacho ni kigumu) au kutafuta alternative site(bagamoyo has been recommended).matarajio yetu ni kwamba bagamoyo itakuwa another commercial/industrial centre.hivyo sioni ubaya wa kuweka international airport ktk eneo hili.mbona Kilimanjaro kuna KIA which has no significant contribution to our nation,tuivunje?
      Kikwete anajengewa nyumba pale msoga that means atakapoondoka madarakani ataishi msoga-chalinze.kwa taarifa nilizozipata chalinze itakuwa wilaya na kujitenga na bagamoyo,kwa mantiki hii kikwete(------) hatokuwa mkazi wa bagamoyo. Sina uhakika kama hiki kiwanja kitajengwa chalinze.lakini tujiulize toka uhuru serikali imeweka kitega uchumi gani cha maana ndani ya mkoa wa pwani especially bagamoyo?instead of standing firm against the project lets suggest means of improving our income such that we have many Intl Airports around Tz.

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      Ninavyofahamu Bagamoyo ni mji muhimu ktk historia ya dunia,unahitaji kuwa advertised ili kuwa kivutio muhimu kwa utalii.kwa upande mwingine bagamoyo inatarajiwa kuwa gateway for southern touristic circuit.DAR na bandari yake imeshakuwa finyu mno,inahitaji kupanuliwa(kitu ambacho ni kigumu) au kutafuta alternative site(bagamoyo has been recommended).matarajio yetu ni kwamba bagamoyo itakuwa another commercial/industrial centre.hivyo sioni ubaya wa kuweka international airport ktk eneo hili.mbona Kilimanjaro kuna KIA which has no significant contribution to our nation,tuivunje?
      Kikwete anajengewa nyumba pale msoga that means atakapoondoka madarakani ataishi msoga-chalinze.kwa taarifa nilizozipata chalinze itakuwa wilaya na kujitenga na bagamoyo,kwa mantiki hii kikwete(------) hatokuwa mkazi wa bagamoyo. Sina uhakika kama hiki kiwanja kitajengwa chalinze.lakini tujiulize toka uhuru serikali imeweka kitega uchumi gani cha maana ndani ya mkoa wa pwani especially bagamoyo?instead of standing firm against the project lets suggest means of improving our income such that we have many Intl Airports around Tz.
      Simply ----

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      huwa nafikiaria sana baadhi ya misemo,mfano; `kuliko kukosa akili bora kukosa mali`
      ukiangalia viongozi wengi wa afrika huwa wanafanya vitu ambavyo mwisho wa madaraka yao aitha yawanufaishe wao au jamii yake ya karibu pasipo kufikiria side effects.
      leo hii tunapiga kelele wizara zihamie dodoma bila kuweka mikakati ya dhati mf.nyumba za viongozi waziri,nw,katibu mkuu zinajengwa dar ina maana wakihamia dom tutazing`oa na kuhama nazo???, siasa zitauwa nchi zetu.
      mkuu umeongea point! Hapa dar mpaka sasa ofisi ya makamu wa raisi inajengwa jengo jipya sasa, kwanini isijengwe dom!? Ujinga tuuu!
      'Don't ever take fence down until you know why it was put up' by Robert Frost

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      ninavyofahamu bagamoyo ni mji muhimu ktk historia ya dunia,unahitaji kuwa advertised ili kuwa kivutio muhimu kwa utalii.kwa upande mwingine bagamoyo inatarajiwa kuwa gateway for southern touristic circuit.dar na bandari yake imeshakuwa finyu mno,inahitaji kupanuliwa(kitu ambacho ni kigumu) au kutafuta alternative site(bagamoyo has been recommended).matarajio yetu ni kwamba bagamoyo itakuwa another commercial/industrial centre.hivyo sioni ubaya wa kuweka international airport ktk eneo hili.mbona kilimanjaro kuna kia which has no significant contribution to our nation,tuivunje?
      kikwete anajengewa nyumba pale msoga that means atakapoondoka madarakani ataishi msoga-chalinze.kwa taarifa nilizozipata chalinze itakuwa wilaya na kujitenga na bagamoyo,kwa mantiki hii kikwete(------) hatokuwa mkazi wa bagamoyo. Sina uhakika kama hiki kiwanja kitajengwa chalinze.lakini tujiulize toka uhuru serikali imeweka kitega uchumi gani cha maana ndani ya mkoa wa pwani especially bagamoyo?instead of standing firm against the project lets suggest means of improving our income such that we have many intl airports around tz.
      hata aibu huoni hata kama hujafika ina maana hata shuleni primary and sec. Hukufundishwa??
      think twice!!
      .....Chuma cha reli hakishiki kutu...

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      Ninavyofahamu Bagamoyo ni mji muhimu ktk historia ya dunia,unahitaji kuwa advertised ili kuwa kivutio muhimu kwa utalii.kwa upande mwingine bagamoyo inatarajiwa kuwa gateway for southern touristic circuit.DAR na bandari yake imeshakuwa finyu mno,inahitaji kupanuliwa(kitu ambacho ni kigumu) au kutafuta alternative site(bagamoyo has been recommended).matarajio yetu ni kwamba bagamoyo itakuwa another commercial/industrial centre.hivyo sioni ubaya wa kuweka international airport ktk eneo hili.mbona Kilimanjaro kuna KIA which has no significant contribution to our nation,tuivunje?
      Kikwete anajengewa nyumba pale msoga that means atakapoondoka madarakani ataishi msoga-chalinze.kwa taarifa nilizozipata chalinze itakuwa wilaya na kujitenga na bagamoyo,kwa mantiki hii kikwete(******) hatokuwa mkazi wa bagamoyo. Sina uhakika kama hiki kiwanja kitajengwa chalinze.lakini tujiulize toka uhuru serikali imeweka kitega uchumi gani cha maana ndani ya mkoa wa pwani especially bagamoyo?instead of standing firm against the project lets suggest means of improving our income such that we have many Intl Airports around Tz.
      kuna ukweli wowote na unalosema? hebu muulize Mkulo kwanini KIA kodi yake ni kubwa kuliko Jomo Kenyatta? halafu utajua ya kuwa poor policies zina-sabotage uwanja ule maana unakuwa uncompetitive ila una umuhimu mkubwa kama utapewa mazingira mazuri ya kiushindani
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      Kila project lazima iwe financially viable ndo huwa inakua executed, so muungwana will tell us How???? kwani alivyowahamisha watu wa Kiwalani na kuwalipa juu alikuwa ana madhumuni gani??? na kama dhumuni ni kupanua Julius Nyerere International Air Port then huo wa bagamoyo wa nini??? why not Mwanza, KGM(DUBAI), Mbeya???? Utakua ni upunguani uliokithiri.....lets wt n c.................
      Get Rich or Die Tryn......

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      Ninavyofahamu Bagamoyo ni mji muhimu ktk historia ya dunia,unahitaji kuwa advertised ili kuwa kivutio muhimu kwa utalii.kwa upande mwingine bagamoyo inatarajiwa kuwa gateway for southern touristic circuit.DAR na bandari yake imeshakuwa finyu mno,inahitaji kupanuliwa(kitu ambacho ni kigumu) au kutafuta alternative site(bagamoyo has been recommended).matarajio yetu ni kwamba bagamoyo itakuwa another commercial/industrial centre.hivyo sioni ubaya wa kuweka international airport ktk eneo hili.mbona Kilimanjaro kuna KIA which has no significant contribution to our nation,tuivunje?
      Kikwete anajengewa nyumba pale msoga that means atakapoondoka madarakani ataishi msoga-chalinze.kwa taarifa nilizozipata chalinze itakuwa wilaya na kujitenga na bagamoyo,kwa mantiki hii kikwete(------) hatokuwa mkazi wa bagamoyo. Sina uhakika kama hiki kiwanja kitajengwa chalinze.lakini tujiulize toka uhuru serikali imeweka kitega uchumi gani cha maana ndani ya mkoa wa pwani especially bagamoyo?instead of standing firm against the project lets suggest means of improving our income such that we have many Intl Airports around Tz.

      Plse if you don`t have data,still you don`t research,YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO SPEEK!!
      Kamoooooon!!!?
      Siyo lazima akaishi hapo anaweza ishi pale morocco ambako anamalizia ile nyumba au pale bagamoyo opposite Nyerere road kuna bonge la kasri linajengwa pale la msoga is just a penut.
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      Mama yangu! This is our beloved leader, an economist by profession and a colonel in the army ranks but can not think further? We shall object this to the last drop of our strength

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      Tunashangaa airport na bandari mpya pia wanataka kujenga Bagamoyo wakati tuna bandari mbili Tanga na Mtwara ambazo hazitumiki tu capacity. Sababu ya Kujenga ni kujikomba kwa mkuu wa Nchi.

      hela za kujenga bandari na uwanja wa ndege zitumike kufufua TRC ili Abiria wa kwenda bara na mizigo ya kwenda Bara, Congo, Rwanda na Burundi ipite kwa urahisi na haraka bila kuharibu barabara ya lami inayotumika sasa na kuwa overloaded na tankers na lorries and trailers na semi trailers. Uwanja wa ndege utahudumia watu wachache wa tabaka la juu ilhali reli itahudumia hata walala hoi na mizigo yao.

      By the way kwa hiyo tutakuwa na viwanja vya kimataifa vinne JKNIA, KIA, JMKIA na KIA II ( itakayokuwa kama dubai kama alivyoahidi kwenye uchaguzi).
      Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.

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