Topic: Suluhu ya msongamano wa magari jijini Dar

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Hii habari ninayoiweka ni kutoka kwenye gazeti la Guardian, 09/07/2007. Kwa kweli UCLAS wamekuja na mpango mzuri. Lakini kwa wale ambao wapo kwenye vyombo kama ERB, UDSM, DIT na vyuo vingine kwa pamoja na serikali na sekta binafsi ikiwemo Polisi, Ujenzi, TANROADS, Conslutants, SUMATRA, MUWADA etc wachangie mawazo. Wenzetu wa UCLAS kama mpo jumuisheni wadau wengine ili mpango wenu uwe maridhawa na utoe suluhu ya tatizo hili la usafiri.

Wazee wa vyuo vikuu, jamani wanafunzi wakati wanafanya projects kwa nini wasipewe mwamsho wa kuweza chunguza na kutoa mapendekezo yao kuhusu suala hili...tayari UCLAS wameshatupa "skeleton" what we need now ni "flesh and blood". Congrats UCLAS but don't hide the info to yourself, share and improve it to cater for the need......

The article is as below:

UCLAS: Here is the major solution for Dar congestion

2007-07-09 09:49:32
By Pascal Shao


The University College of Lands and Architectural Studies (UCLAS) has come with a cost effective and permanent solution on road traffic jams in Dar es Salaam.

UCLAS Assistant Research Fellow, Hussein Rajab, told The Guardian that should the government take into account the said solution, traffic congestion in the city of Dar es Salaam would become history.

He said: ``Most traffic congestions arise at the junctions. The only answer to traffic jams is to improve the intersections where vehicles converge. Improvement here means construction of either flyovers (overpass) or underpass lanes.

``Overpass or underpass is a permanent solution as vehicles will not meet at the junctions as the situation appears at the moment,`` he said.

He said the lanes would facilitate movement of vehicles heading to final destinations without meeting at the junctions (where there are traffic lights).

Rajab said the solution would be suitable for small vehicles rather than daladalas due to stoppages and heavy vehicles, as 80 percent of traffic to city centre is made up of small vehicles.

He said that overpasses could be applicable at the junctions of Mwenge, Morocco, Ubungo, Tabata, Shekilango to mention a few, while the underpasses could be built at the slopes of Kawe Road, St Peter road junction etc.

``Construction of an overpass or underpass is a one time investment,`` he said.

Rajab said expansion or adding more roads would not reduce traffic jams but would instead facilitate vehicles to meet at the junctions.

He said that traveling on congested roads resulted in increased fuel consumption.

He mentioned effects of traffic congestion as time wastage, environmental pollution, tear and wear and stress. He further mentioned other effects as difficulties in case of emergencies, noise as motorists try to divert to other quiet areas such as hospitals and schools.

Dar es Salaam has been experiencing traffic jams, which normally occur during peak hours in the mornings and evenings, as most traffic is heading to and from the city centre due to most offices being located there.

SOURCE: Guardian

Hali ilivyo kwa Dar as at March, 2010:


Ali Hassan Mwinyi road


Morogoro road near Magomeni Mapipa


Old Bagamoyo road near Shopper's plaza

Duh! huu mshikaki kiboko...ila kwa hizi mashine za mchina SANLG hapa lazima zichemshe!!

sioni kitu

Public transport ikiboreshwa mambo yatakuwa mswanu kwani wengi hawatatumia magari yao na parking zenyewe zinavyosumbua tauni

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By Ngambo Ngali

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By Ngambo Ngali

tujaribu hii

mi sijaona kitu.

By Ngambo Ngali

tujaribu hii

We mvuta ganja mbona unatuzingua hatuoni kitu!!

Ndugu zangu wana JF, Salaam..

Hivi hawa trafic police wanaoongoza magari barabarani wanachangia foleni au wanapunguza foleni? Na hizo taa za barabarani zina kazi gani..?
Imekuwa ni mtindo kwa trafic wetu kuruhusu gari za upande fulani tu as if watu fulani ndio wanapaswa kuwahi na wengine kuchelewa.. mfano ni wale ndugu zangu wanaotumia gari za Mwananyamala - Posta, kupitia Manyanya; waweza kukaa hata dakika arobaini ndio uruhusiwe kupita ubalozini. Mfano mwingine ni gari za Posta-Mwenge, masaki kupita serender bridge; why ni gari za ocean road ndio huwa zinapewa nafac kubwa.. Muongozo wenu wajumbe..?

Ndugu wana JF, Salaam..

Hivi hawa trafic police wanaoongoza magari barabarani wanachangia foleni au wanapunguza foleni? Na hizo taa za barabarani zina kazi gani..?
Imekuwa ni mtindo kwa trafic wetu kuruhusu gari za upande fulani tu as if watu fulani ndio wanapaswa kuwahi na wengine kuchelewa.. mfano ni wale ndugu zangu wanaotumia gari za Mwananyamala - Posta, kupitia Manyanya; waweza kukaa hata dakika arobaini ndio uruhusiwe kupita ubalozini. Mfano mwingine ni gari za Posta-Mwenge &Masaki kupita Serender bridge; why ni gari za ocean road ndio huwa zinapewa nafac kubwa.. kwa nini zisiachwe taa ziongoze..?

Kuendesha gari Dar ni ghasia. Yaani upuuzi mtupu. Watu wenye akili hawawezi kuendesha namna wanavyoendesha hivyo. Let me stop before I cuss

ukiona hivyo waruhusiwao ndio waliomuhimu

Naona wanasaidia sana hasa asubuhi na jioni. Ila ni kweli kwamba wale walio upande ambao hauna foleni wanaona kero maana wanasahaulika. Siku ambayo haina traffic hali ni mbaya sana. Suluhisho ni kupanua barabara na kujenga fly overs. Pili ni kuimarisha barabara vichochoni na pia kuruhusu daladala zenye hadhi ku operate. kwa mfano mtu anaweza kuwa na daladala yenye AC na mambo mazuri ndani akatoza ghali hivyo watu wanaweza kuacha magari home wakapanda hayo.

By Mkerio

Naona wanasaidia sana hasa asubuhi na jioni. Ila ni kweli kwamba wale walio upande ambao hauna foleni wanaona kero maana wanasahaulika. Siku ambayo haina traffic hali ni mbaya sana. Suluhisho ni kupanua barabara na kujenga fly overs. Pili ni kuimarisha barabara vichochoni na pia kuruhusu daladala zenye hadhi ku operate. kwa mfano mtu anaweza kuwa na daladala yenye AC na mambo mazuri ndani akatoza ghali hivyo watu wanaweza kuacha magari home wakapanda hayo.

Kama mimi nasahisha mtihani in realistic and from engineers point of view solution ya pili ndiyo ya kwanza na ya kwanza ni very very debatable

.kuimatisha bara bara za vichochoroni wenyewe wanaita feeder
.boresha usafiri wa daladal
.discourage use of private cars (add cost of fuel, taxes etc,)
.Restrict use of private cars in some areas


Subways because can be used for many purposes unlike flyovers then are considered superior than flyovers

Subways can be used for transporting sewage systems, power cables, communication cables (fibres) and they reduce congestion, never mention minimum routine maintenance.

cheers

Mimi ninadhani wanafanya vyote viwili: yaani, kuna wakati wanasaidia na wakati mwingine wanakuwa kero.
Ila wanachoniudhi ni pale ambapo hakuna traffic jam na taa zinafanya kazi, ndo utaona wanaongoza magari na vice versa! Mfano mzuri ni kwenye taa za kuongozea magari katika makutano ya barabara za Ali Hassan/New Bagamoyo na Sam Nujoma pale mwenge hasa wakati wa asubuhi (saa 12 hadi saa 1)!

QUOTE=Mporipori;Posta-Mwenge &Masaki kupita Serender bridge

Ni Salender Bridge.

Tatizo la foleni Dar halisababishwi na hao traffics au magari kua mengi. Tatizo linasababishwa na mpangilio mbovu wa jiji. Yani asubui wakaazi wote wa DSM wanaelekea Posta na Kariakoo makazini na kwny shughuli zao za kutengeneza kipato. Then jioni wote wanatoka Posta na Kariakoo kuelekea makwao. Kwa namna iyo foleni inakua inevitable. Suluhisho:idara ya mipango jiji ipige marukufu ujenzi wa ofisi na majengo mapya Posta na Kariakoo. Pili serikali iamie Dodoma ambako kuna viwanja vya wizara na ofisi za serikali vimeshatengwa na CDA toka enzi za Mwalimu. Pia mipango miji itenge maeneo nje ya jiji ili kujengwe miji mipya kwajili ya ofisi na vitega uchumi mbalimbali.

By Nyandaigobeko

QUOTE=Mporipori;Posta-Mwenge &Masaki kupita Serender bridge

Ni Salender Bridge.

Hata wewe umekosea

cha kusanagaza ni pale watu wazima wanadhani wanaweza kumaliza foleni wakati wakijua mpangilio mbovu wa Mji huu, kwanza kabisa Daraja la Surrender lingepanuliwa kuwa njia tatu kila upande, vivyo hivyo kuanzia faya mpaka magomeni, pili wajenge daraja huku nyuma ya Mhimbili kuunganisha Kinondoni hanasifu, kuhusu njia nyingine rahisi ni ya kuanzia jangwani kwenda kigogo, na wanaotoka tabata kuja kariakoo au mjini wajengewe barabara ya kuanzia kigogog wasitumie ya buguruni, halafu barabara ya Ali Hasani Mwinyi /Bagamoyo Road iwe njia tatu Mpaka mwenge, wizara nyingine kama uvuvi/Mifugo/Kilimo/Elimu/Sayansi ya Juu waamie Dodoma au Vikawe au Bagamoyo mashule yote ya Serikari ya secondari yaamie bagamoyo au Kibaha kama vile janguani/ na mengineyo yawe ya bweni mjini pasiwepo shule yoyote hata ya vidudu, mkiendendelea hivi hata wahindi watajenga, arafu kazi kama bandari TRA /Widhara ya Fedha zifanye kazi kwa shift

QUOTE=Nightangale;Hata wewe umekosea.

Nikosoe sasa!

Wakuu,
Mnaionaje foleni ya magari Dar, kwa nini isitangazwe kuwa ni janga la kitaifa ili mataifa mengine yasaidie?? Inaonekana serikali yetu imeshindwa. Inakuwaje mtu anatoka nyumbani kwake Tegeta au Mbagala saa kumi na nusu asubuhi halafu anawasili ofisini Posta Mpya saa mbili na nusu!!! Viongozi wetu wanaliona hilo. Rasilimali ya 'muda' ni muhimu sana kwa uchumi wa nchi. Mkazi wa Dar ukimwondoa jk, mizengo pinda na bilali, anapoteza muda usiopungua masaa matano akiwa njiani kuelekea kwenye eneo lake la kazi. Huo ni muda mrefu na ni hasara kubwa sana kwa nchi. Je, viongozi wetu wanaliona hilo???? Mbona hatuoni jitihada za haraka za kukabiliana na hali hiyo.