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Old 11th June 2009, 01:25 PM  
SasaTel (Dovotel) kuzinduliwa tarehe 15 June.
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Eroo Lalashe,Ile kampuni ya simu ya Dovotel aka (The New Player) itazinduliwa tarehe 15/06/2009 imethibitika,kwa kuanza huduma zao zitapatikana katika jiji la Dar es salaam kisha huduma zao zitaenezwa nchi nzima,kwa sasa Jiji la Dar es salaam limesheheni na mabango yanayotambulisha ujio huu mpya,tetesi hizi zinajuza kuwa kampuni hii imekomba waajiriwa TBL,Barclays,Zantel,Zain na ile kampuni ambayo mustakabali wake haujajulikana Hits,huduma zao ni pamoja na Internet,CDMA na Landline.

 
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i would say they are extremely smart mzee...,GSM is thing of the past!it is now treated as the god old friend who once served the world same way people treat walkman's and their good old tapes!!

CDMA is the future..,bind it with 3G then you have the best of both worlds,CDMA phones are bulky now..,it's only a matter of time before we can see them in TZ.,

u won't miss GSM for sure for it is the past..,CDMA,3G,4G...,are the future.,

often companies who build base and forget of the hot thing in the market strive in the long run.,
How exactly is GSM the past? Voda, Zain, Zantel Voice and Tigo are all GSM. MTN, Voda, Cell-C,Virgin in South Africa are all GSM.
Europe is almost entirely GSM. In fact about 80% of the worlds cellphone users use GSM.
TTCl who are CDMA have been a misserable failure with their Hauwei handsets, nobody likes them.

3G and 4G are just data speeds you can get them on either CDMA or GSM.

I was just saying in a market where you already have an established GSM userbase it seems like a mistake to introduce an incompatible technology. They might have more sucess with wireless Internet though.
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How exactly is GSM the past? Voda, Zain, Zantel Voice and Tigo are all GSM. MTN, Voda, Cell-C,Virgin in South Africa are all GSM.
Europe is almost entirely GSM. In fact about 80% of the worlds cellphone users use GSM.
TTCl who are CDMA have been a misserable failure with their Hauwei handsets, nobody likes them.

3G and 4G are just data speeds you can get them on either CDMA or GSM.

I was just saying in a market where you already have an established GSM userbase it seems like a mistake to introduce an incompatible technology. They might have more sucess with wireless Internet though.
if you understand mobile forensics then CDMA is about the only "best" for the future of mobile usage

ndugu i was not talking from an observer point of view rather from a very experienced pro point of view,if you ask any engineer will tell you CDMA is more secure(i.e. output is coded in packets of data).,transmits less radiation to the user,and handles more calls per cell site.
GSM is a little older and doesn't have the potential for the future data applications. GSM speeds have almost peaked with the EDGE technology while CDMA speeds will reach DSL speeds in many markets come 2011.the future is CDMA because of this.
GSM is great for voice, but the future is in data and voice over IP(VOIP)applications and CDMA is far ahead in that arena.
coverage is much better with CDMA 110 kms versus GSM 35kms.

hiyo coverage issue is more of market hype,yeah (TDMA)GSM has been here long enough and NOKIA has majority of it's cellphones in GSM standard.
remember CDMA is widely used in Japan,USA,Latin America,CHINA,KOREA etc..,
BUT CDMA is a superior tech to TDMA(GSM) as we are now coming to an era where a mobile phone is an industry standard.

GM was the best one day BUT now Toyota RULES.the smartphone industry is now wide open,and CDMA is the future.

what i liked about that dovotel company was their realization for better technology instead of hype,
their understanding of data communications,and telecoms and a move that is bold as it has been.
respect to them for sticking to engineering principles,and get away with hypes.
yes the current market is in love with TDMA(GSM) but soon they will realise that (TDMA)GSM was just weak,not equiped for the next generation of cellular usage.
Reminds me of Google..,when everyone kinda bashed them for having a logarithms only search engine!that was 10 years ago anyways..,fast foward from 1998 please..,
kudos to dovotel,

Hao TTCL walikuwa na nia nzuri,what they lacked was a master plan,forgive them though..,u can't do much when ur management is run by a so called "foreign expert management" who only cares about his bonus and doesn't give a sh*t about Tanzania.
simu za Huawei are no way attractive,BUT CDMA technology abundant handsets they could have choosen from.
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3G and 4G are just data speeds you can get them on either CDMA or GSM.
are you kidding?!3G and 4g are just speeds?tell me a GSM network with higher speed than 384Kb/s..

go read understand what GSM(TDMA) really is my friend..,

the best TDMA achieved was EDGE..,what you just said about GSM technology achieving 3G speeds was not correct..,
you can only achieve 3G speeds through UMTS which is cell division technology aka CDMA..,

what GSM operators do is they clone the existing GSM infrastructures to work in a cell based architecture..,hence they Use WCDMA to provide 3G speeds to already existing gsm users provided they have required handsets(supports UMTS).,UMTS/HSDPA are also CDMA based - they use W-CDMA as their air interface. They are the successor to GSM, they're not based on GSM. GSM uses TDMA.

VODA will never tell you that they are using a WCDMA technology to provide you those 3G speeds because it doesn't work in market sense!

do you really think they should tell you that those 8 cells in GSM can only output 270kbps?

no they won't they go out upgrade their towers and system and come out shouting 3G!!

BUT having a core CDMA based architecture for engineers is just a blessing..,

so i gave them kudos for embracing better engineering and not following hype.

when people starts shopping online,viewing sites in a handset..,u will wish u had a WCDMA/CDMA based technology with ya..,
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How exactly is GSM the past? Voda, Zain, Zantel Voice and Tigo are all GSM. MTN, Voda, Cell-C,Virgin in South Africa are all GSM.
Europe is almost entirely GSM. In fact about 80% of the worlds cellphone users use GSM.
TTCl who are CDMA have been a misserable failure with their Hauwei handsets, nobody likes them.

3G and 4G are just data speeds you can get them on either CDMA or GSM.

I was just saying in a market where you already have an established GSM userbase it seems like a mistake to introduce an incompatible technology. They might have more sucess with wireless Internet though.
GSM is being reingineered to W-CDMA , Uwezi kupata 3G bila CDMA VODA,ZAIN lazima wanatumia hiyo kwa ajili ya 3G.

Tatizo kubwa la CDMA ni Handset, lakini faida yake kubwa ni kwamba unaweza kucover the same area with ferwer BTS if u opt for CDMA than GSM,so that mean Less operation cost in tems of generators,walinzi,mafuta,staff,Transmission resouces e.t.c (competitive advantage for mass MARKET) ,you can set lower and still be profitable
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Kwa mujibu wa Jarida la Ughaibuni (JARIDA LA UGHAIBUNI) kampuni hiyo inaendeshwa na Dr. Angaluki Muaka (raia wa Kenya) na wenzake, ambaye alinyimwa leseni kwa kuwa kampuni yake ilisadikiwa ingefunika kampuni nyingine za mawasiliano ya simu huko Kenya. Soma habari hiyo kwenye Blog hiyo ya wanaBongo Stanford University.

Swali: Huyu ni Mkenya, mtu mweusi, jirani yetu, ameweza. Tena ni Mkufunzi wa Kiswahili, huko Ughaibuni. Sisi Wabongo kinachotushinda ni nini? Tumerogwa? Kwa nini tunaogopa KUJARIBU? Ndio wapo watu wenye UWEZO hapa Bongo, lakini wanakaa na vijisenti vyao mpaka vinaozea benki, wanakufa wakiviacha. Badala ya kuwatumia Wabongo wenzao wafanye kazi pamoja, tunaachia suala la Mawasiliano kwa KAMPUNI ZA KIGENI! Mbona hakuna (msiseme TTCL) kampuni hata moja ya Cellular Communications ya WAZAWA?

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are you kidding?!3G and 4g are just speeds?tell me a GSM network with higher speed than 384Kb/s..

go read understand what GSM(TDMA) really is my friend..,

the best TDMA achieved was EDGE..,what you just said about GSM technology achieving 3G speeds was not correct..,


you can only achieve 3G speeds through UMTS which is cell division technology aka CDMA..,

what GSM operators do is they clone the existing GSM infrastructures to work in a cell based architecture..,hence they Use WCDMA to provide 3G speeds to already existing gsm users provided they have required handsets(supports UMTS).,UMTS/HSDPA are also CDMA based - they use W-CDMA as their air interface. They are the successor to GSM, they're not based on GSM. GSM uses TDMA.

VODA will never tell you that they are using a WCDMA technology to provide you those 3G speeds because it doesn't work in market sense!

do you really think they should tell you that those 8 cells in GSM can only output 270kbps?

no they won't they go out upgrade their towers and system and come out shouting 3G!!

BUT having a core CDMA based architecture for engineers is just a blessing..,

so i gave them kudos for embracing better engineering and not following hype.

when people starts shopping online,viewing sites in a handset..,u will wish u had a WCDMA/CDMA based technology with ya..,
Lol! EDGE IS 3G! lol!
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So what are you guys talking about??

Ok to get better speeds they might use CDMA "behind the scenes" but the user doesnt CARE about behind the scenes! only Engineers care.

Also it doesn't matter what technology lies behind the infrastructure, that is the problem with Engineers you are in love with fancy cutting edge technology BUT you fail to consider the actual market for that technology!

Simply being technologically better is not enough, customers are going to need an actual reason to give up their GSM handsets and jump on CDMA, so what is this reason for Dovotel exactly?

Are Tanzanian voice users going to switch to Dovotel for higher CDMA data speeds? I think not.

Are they goint to switch for "higher packet security". I think not.

The moment you tell people they need to buy a new handsets to use your seervice you better have a pretty good reason for them to switch, so whats the reason here???
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Lol! EDGE IS 3G! lol!

BUT you fail to consider the actual market for that technology!

Simply being technologically better is not enough, customers are going to need an actual reason to give up their GSM handsets and jump on CDMA, so what is this reason for Dovotel exactly?
The reason Tigo is doing fine currently is because the play well with the price factor,understand price has a limit as constrained by running cost !
With CDMA for instance you would need 300 BTS to cover the whole TZ while you would need at least double that amount to cover with GSM.That is to say operation cost with CDMA is cut by 40%!!!! .Actually if on need to compete in Terms of Price use CDMA you will beat those with GSM
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Tatizo CDMA mpaka uwashawishi wateja wanunue simu mpya ya CDMA! Wabongo wote tuna GSM na mpaka sasa CDMA nyingi ni zile za Hauwei ambazo hakuna anayezipenda. Hapo naona ndo watapata tabu sana.
Mkuu; si hivyo tu, kwa wanaojua Benso Online ambao wanatumia CDMA, they are on Death Bed. Walijaribu kuiuza, haiziki wala hainunuliki.

Zantel and the rest may be OK kama wanatumia combination ya CDMA na GSM.
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Mkuu; si hivyo tu, kwa wanaojua Benso Online ambao wanatumia CDMA, they are on Death Bed. Walijaribu kuiuza, haiziki wala hainunuliki.

Zantel and the rest may be OK kama wanatumia combination ya CDMA na GSM.
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